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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums5 unfortunate submariners, 8000 other americans died yday
Was sad the mini submarine imploded killing all 5 aboard, yday or day before.
Was sad 8,000 other americans died yday as well, mostly due old age I suppose.
Of the people who died in the submarine tragedy, their ages were 58, 77, 19, 48, 61.
Was sad 25,000 people died yday in India, mostly due old age I suppose.
Was sad last month, and prior month after month, dozens, hundreds of people died trying to escape persecution by sailing across the Mediterranean sea seeking asylum in friendly countries. These deaths were met with scant coverage & shoulder shrugs.
8,000 more americans will die today, tomorrow, and likely every day for the rest of our lives, and only a tiny fraction will get national recognition or saturation TV coverage, or examining the way they died, how much money they made, or how important they were or were not.
This submarine tragedy is a novelty for TV producers and TV audiences, why it has gotten so much attention the past 4 days, a novelty which cable networks are exploiting for bizarre reasons, imo,
It was sad sure, but pardon me for not getting too emotional or distressed or dwelling upon the particulars. I heard all I needed to hear in 30 minutes tv coverage. They died instantly no pain no suffering, which is far better than most of the other 8,000 americans & hundreds of thousands of earthlings who died some in agony, others in some sort of discomfort.
People die every day, this was simply a novel way to go.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)No one aboard was an American.
They were British, Pakistani, and French.
niyad
(115,079 posts)Born in San Francisco.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Im surprised that there wasnt a Supreme Court Justice aboard.
niyad
(115,079 posts)What a great thought.
malaise
(270,903 posts)Interesting
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,529 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,715 posts)situations that have given the public days of TV coverage. CNN covered the Baby Jessica story for 58 hours in 1987. The rescue of the boys in the cave in Thailand, the Chilean miners rescue, and
the 26 school kids buried alive in their bus all captured the world's attention and hope.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,529 posts)hard to imagine those pre internet days.
meadowlander
(4,426 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(8,529 posts)Skittles
(154,037 posts)a truly lovely lady, and one of the few true Christians I have ever known....
jimmy the one
(2,712 posts)Sorry to hear of this, skittles.
Earth-shine
(4,044 posts)except for the part about who is paying for the rescue efforts.
BigmanPigman
(51,835 posts)and why I haven't paid attention to it.
barbaraann
(9,195 posts)I don't think there is a similar law for dry land.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/46/2304#:~:text=A%20master%20or%20individual%20in,vessel%20or%20individuals%20on%20board.
jimmy the one
(2,712 posts)Within reason. A hippocratic oath. It would not apply broadly to unreachable vessels 2 and a half miles below the surface, excepting perhaps official navy or marine vessels with similar capabilities, or surface ships used as picket ships. Even then the navy would blink twice before sending sailors so far deep where the risk of further death would outweigh the likelihood of saving lives.
Rendering assistance to vessels in distress I have no problem with. The hyperbole surrounding the rescue attempt and saturation coverage of 5 deaths, comparably a drop in the bucket of daily death, and sensationalizing the novelty, is the concern. The challenger explosion in space was far more awful due it being an exploratory mission in a developing technology, and emotionally affected far more severely most americans. The sinking of the titan was provoked and enabled by for profit company oceangate, for either derring do or sightseeing, along with the profit motive.
A master or individual in charge of a vessel shall render assistance to any individual found at sea in danger of being lost, so far as the master or individual in charge can do so without serious danger to the masters or individuals vessel or individuals on board.
(2)Paragraph (1) does not apply to a vessel of war or a vessel owned by the United States Government appropriated only to a public service.
(b)A master or individual violating this section shall be fined not more than $1,000, imprisoned for not more than 2 years, or both.
barbara ann: I don't think there is a similar law for dry land.
Not even the police:
The U.S. Supreme Court has also ruled that police have no specific obligation to protect
Although the delayed police response at Uvalde school shooting revealed the repercussions for not.
OceanGate is unlikely to foot the bill for a rescue mission launched to find survivors among the five-man crew in the missing Titan submersible and the operation is expected to cost millions of dollars..
Ret. Adm.. commanded Coast Guard to 2018 .. the underwater exploration company which charges wealthy clients $250,000 each to see the wreckage of the Titanic would likely not be required to reimburse the federal government.
Its no different than if a private citizen goes out and his boat sinks,..We go out and recover him. We dont stick them with the bill after the fact.
Call an ambulance to your home for a 'rescue attempt' to take you to hospital could cost a few hundred dollars, and then mere admission to the emergency room will cost $500 at the closest hospital near me, and likely a similar fee near yours.
barbaraann
(9,195 posts)It really explains the situation better.
treestar
(82,383 posts)No one was paying attention because of their wealth or their race or their gender.
It was because of the situation.
Poor people could be trapped in a mine or something. It would make the news on the same grounds.
Many rich people died of old age in hospice, too. Nobody paid attention to that either.