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(21,800 posts)elias7
(4,037 posts)stopdiggin
(11,417 posts)Yes, a mob with a mob boss at the helm. Good description
Jan
paleotn
(18,015 posts)They primary Bacon at their own peril. Get crazy and the R's lose that district. Thus Bacon's grasp on reality. Going to see a whole lot more of that in +5 R and tighter districts. This shit, along with a host of other things, may just cost the R's the House and Senate even if NY isn't allowed to redistrict.
calimary
(81,610 posts)when he sees it, and actually says so in public. There arent many of em, unfortunately.
MyOwnPeace
(16,955 posts)We're thinking how sad it is for an actual 'thinking' Republican to being put at risk because he/she can actually deal with reality and react appropriately. Perhaps we've identified yet another endangered species.......
RockRaven
(15,097 posts)617Blue
(1,282 posts)you think he wants to run with orange shitbag at the top of ticket?
rurallib
(62,491 posts)Color me surprised
jayschool2013
(2,319 posts)And it wasn't close: 52.3 percent to 45.7 percent for Trump and 2.0 percent for the Libertarian candidate, Jo Jorgenson.
And that gave Biden an electoral vote because Nebraska splits its electoral votes by district.
Omaha, a moderately liberal city, comprises much of District 2.
Lincoln is a liberal city of 340,000 in District 1, but the rest of the district is nearly 95 percent GOP, so even though Lincoln is governed by Democrats, primarily, the rest of the district makes it non-competitive.
District 3 is dominated by Republicans skews the rest of the state's voting to the right.
paleotn
(18,015 posts)Tough to gerrymand a state that has only one population center. The rest is more cows, corn and wheat than people.
radius777
(3,635 posts)just as most rural areas even in blue states are red.
jonstl08
(412 posts)He is just the first of a few I think GOP'rs representing districts Biden carried or barely lost that will be coming out with statement similar to this. Trying to save there seats.
Walleye
(31,161 posts)Sit him down and rough him up. Make him pay. You dont go against the mob
Jan
paleotn
(18,015 posts)Omaha. Nebraska's swing district. Even R vs D according to Cook. Going to see a whole lot of this in the coming months. How the Republican machinery handles this phenomenon may drive the House and Senate to the Dems next year.
republianmushroom
(13,911 posts)there should not of been a need to ask him to turn them over.
Prison time for trump.
28 months and counting
ProfessorGAC
(65,456 posts)They had 11 weeks to organize the move. They had plenty of time to return what wasn't his in an orderly fashion.
This all started because he took something that he never should have taken.
In most places, they call that theft.
republianmushroom
(13,911 posts)Prison time for trump
mgardener
(1,825 posts)Upset, disgusted at the careless way these documents are handled stored and accounted for?
Our libraries do a better job of keeping tract of books then the government does protecting secret info.
I am not excusing Trump.
ProfessorGAC
(65,456 posts)He was to cavalier about national security information when he had the right to view it.
He lost that privilege and got even worse about it.
He's a thief, he's a liar, and convicted or not, he's a criminal.
MyOwnPeace
(16,955 posts)I truly believe he did not think he was going to have to leave the White House!
Think about that - he didn't pack - he didn't make plans for 'what's next' - he didn't go to the Inauguration - he REALLY BELIEVED HE COULD STAY!!!!!!
How SICK is THAT!
ProfessorGAC
(65,456 posts)A very depraved & demented man.
soldierant
(6,966 posts)based on quotations which have been publshed from the Espionage Act, the Act doesn't carehow you got them. The Act cares that you "willfully retained" them.
ProfessorGAC
(65,456 posts)...if he never took something that didn't belong to him, he couldn't have "willfully retained" them.
It all started by stealing them.
Everything else is a consequence of the theft.
soldierant
(6,966 posts)He took them from Washington DC, within the space of - what - maybe a week?
He willfully retained them at Mar-a-Lago for months. More than a year.
There were almost certainly others he retained elsewhere, but the boxes - the great volume - were at Mar-a-Lago.
That's why the case must be tried in the South Florida District, and not elsewhere.
liberal N proud
(60,352 posts)PJMcK
(22,075 posts)Hes the first Republican to openly and unequivocally criticize Trumps handling of government documents. I havent heard that ANY others have taken a proper position on this indictment.
Still, hes a Republican
stopdiggin
(11,417 posts)and also your observation that this is WAY out in front of contemporaries - either in that state, or really in the region. So - kudos. For integrity, and uncharacteristic honesty and clarity.
ShazzieB
(16,668 posts)I think he definitely deserves credit for this.
MyOwnPeace
(16,955 posts)I can't imagine he's anything but toast by the next election.
Shame on them.
ShazzieB
(16,668 posts)So he may have reason to believe he'll be okay. That could be why he was willing to stick his neck out.
MyOwnPeace
(16,955 posts)and I might wish that he'd be safe at least as far as having a MAGAt oppose him - and I'm willing to even give him GREAT CREDIT for standing up for what is 'right!'
BUT, at the same time, I'm looking for EVERY CHANCE to get a DEMOCRATIC seat - so that Kevin can go down the hall and have all of the fun in the world with his band of NUTSO traitors - and he deserves every second of it!
ShazzieB
(16,668 posts)I want to see him go down, too, and take his wishy-washy speakership with him!
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)It's not the general election he has to worry about, but the primary.
That's where he'll be vulnerable.
RAB910
(3,545 posts)That this is nees
HardPort
(1,474 posts)Marius25
(3,213 posts)It's not just how he stored them. It's the fact that he had the most secret information our country possesses, and was letting thousands of people at Mar a Lago just look at them anytime they want.
Bacon's framing makes it seem more like the false equivalence to Biden and Pence, neither of whom showed them to other people nor did they have nuclear secrets.
llmart
(15,571 posts)He's portraying it like it was a misdemeanor or something. What part of "37 FELONY COUNTS" doesn't he get?
liberalla
(9,279 posts)...and old fashioned!
Permanut
(5,719 posts)Wait until he finds out there's gambling in Casablanca!
Aviation Pro
(12,249 posts)So he understands.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,819 posts)is a toe in the water if I ever saw one.
SouthBayDem
(32,081 posts)Emile
(23,219 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,271 posts)😬
1WorldHope
(701 posts)But, I think that behavior needs to be encouraged. He represents the largest city in Nebraska, so he represents a lot of people that don't agree with him on anything else. I hope it spreads like a virus to others in his party.
jayschool2013
(2,319 posts)By nearly 7 percentage points. It earned him an electoral vote because Nebraska splits theirs.
Javaman
(62,540 posts)Its deemed, by the repukes I charge, that hes more a liability than a benefit. But like any huge machine, political or otherwise, it takes a while for it to slow down to turn around.
With that in mind, while any sane person only causally paying attention can see, that tfg is a massive liability, those repuke sycophants have a hard time seeing the nation before the insane minority right.
But there are always a few rebels who suddenly come to their senses aka they wont ge re-elected if they support tfg. Aka political opportunists.
We will see another watershed election come 2024 when the last of the moderate right wing nuts lose. But dont get me wrong, there will always be the insane right wing fringe. But after 2024, their voices will be seen as the lunitic fringe as more of the right wing turn into Good Germans.
The bobos and mtgs are a dying breed, they wont completely go away, but, for the most part, everyone will move one and stop playing them any attention.
Sky Jewels
(7,203 posts)the government and install himself as dictator would do such a thing!
twodogsbarking
(9,960 posts)retread
(3,768 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)but can't say due to fear of the MAGA base.
Bacon is in a swing/light blue district so he can speak more freely.
617Blue
(1,282 posts)If Trump is at the top of the ticket Bacon`s bacon might be cooked.
MayReasonRule
(1,463 posts)I'm not impressed when one Nat-C rat consumes another.
They're ouroboros by nature it's just what they naturally do.
Xavier Breath
(3,688 posts)It's pretty transparent what he's up to. He's just angling to be Liz Cheney's VP.
AllyCat
(16,271 posts)This guy primaried in 24 for speaking truth.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Sorry dude - if you are this late to the party you are lost.
dchill
(38,631 posts)hay rick
(7,672 posts)He may have acquired a distaste for traitors in that time.
Skittles
(153,316 posts)why is he a repuke?
Mopar151
(10,014 posts)Get clear of the wreckage now! This guy has the rules for classified documents engraved inside his forehead -he'll not put a hair out of place when saying "shoulda coulda woulda"