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Botany

(70,567 posts)
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 10:04 AM Jun 2023

These Canadian wild fires and the resulting smoke is a warning to the world about climate change.

The areas in Canada that are now burning should not be burning because the forest floor in those
environments should be soaking wet right now. Those ecosystems are called boreal forest or taiga
and they should be covered in snow for 4 to 8 months a year. Those forest floors are covered in moss
fungi, rotting logs & stumps, ferns, shallow ponds, and normally are wet in the spring, summer, and fall
until the snow starts in October or November.







"Taiga (/ˈtaɪɡə/; Russian: тайга́; relates to Mongolic[1] and Turkic[2] languages), generally referred to in North America as a boreal forest or snow forest, is a biome characterized by coniferous forests consisting mostly of pines, spruces, and larches." wiki

Now if climate change or disease or insects have killed a large number of trees you can have a crown fire above the
forest floor but that fire should not be down to ground level.



I think there are more fires then are listed here.

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These Canadian wild fires and the resulting smoke is a warning to the world about climate change. (Original Post) Botany Jun 2023 OP
Is somebody torching these forests? bucolic_frolic Jun 2023 #1
I live on Vancouver Island, and we had almost no rain in May Fiendish Thingy Jun 2023 #2
I'm north of the SF bay area Unwind Your Mind Jun 2023 #6
Can you provide a link? I'd love to post this elsewhere. apcalc Jun 2023 #3
You're right. It's a DIRE warning. But no one will listen to it. Scrivener7 Jun 2023 #4
I live in Santa Fe, NM, and I seem to be getting PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2023 #5
That map! I had no idea how many or how widespread Unwind Your Mind Jun 2023 #7
Weather is the most difficult thing to model Johnny2X2X Jun 2023 #8
And now for another article about how workers need to get back into the office --Washington Post tenderfoot Jun 2023 #9

bucolic_frolic

(43,258 posts)
1. Is somebody torching these forests?
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 10:13 AM
Jun 2023

I mean that's a lot of spontaneous combustion, or spread from cinders.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,651 posts)
2. I live on Vancouver Island, and we had almost no rain in May
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 10:26 AM
Jun 2023

That’s extremely unusual, usually we get more rainy days than sunshine in May.

April rainfall was lower than usual as well, and the “June gloom” of cooler, cloudy days has yet to arrive.

Unwind Your Mind

(2,042 posts)
6. I'm north of the SF bay area
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 11:04 AM
Jun 2023

And I think we are having your weather this year

eta, I just looked and I’m 1000 miles south of you. We started burning down in 2015.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,891 posts)
5. I live in Santa Fe, NM, and I seem to be getting
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 10:52 AM
Jun 2023

some smoke from the fires here. Yesterday the sun seemed slightly orange, today it's merely more yellow than it should be.

Yesterday, My Son The Astronomer who lives near Washington DC sent me a selfie of him wearing a mask inside his apartment. He told me that his indoor air filtration wasn't all that good, and so it seemed like a good idea.

Johnny2X2X

(19,108 posts)
8. Weather is the most difficult thing to model
Thu Jun 8, 2023, 11:52 AM
Jun 2023

Of all the things human beings have tried to create models for to predict, the weather is the most challenging.So it would follow that global climate change would be incredibly unpredictable in its effects too.

I'm here in Michigan, and there's a shoulder shrugging attitude from most here around global warming because people seem to think, "Oh well, we have the Great Lakes and I would love Winters to be a little milder." But that's not how global warming works. We can't predict what the effects will be. Things like windstorms could effect Michigan, and I think we'e seen an increase of those in recent years. Lake Michigan didn't freeze over hardly at all last year and the water is going to be warm this Summer which will not only effect the fishery, but increase the strength of storms who usually lose strength coming across the colder water. We have a major forest fire of our own that burned over 3,000 acres in Northern Michigan right now.

What will crops suffer if less severe Winters don't kill off as many pests like rodents and crop eating insects? What will the changing conditions do to the quality of the soil?

Forest fires in Northern Canada like this are extremely rare and never this severe. And Europe relies on the great conveyor belt that is the Gulf Stream to regulate their Winters, this is where cold water from the Artic comes down and sinks off the coast of Europe pushing warm water from the Gulf to the surface which helps modearte their Winters. It's why England doesn't have the same weather as Hudson Bay despite similar proximity to the North Poll. The mountains of Central and South America rely on dust from the lanes of African to help their soil, climate change is effecting this too, in fact a lot of the immigrtation on our Southern border is a result of subsistance farming in the mountains in these countries no longer being possible because of this soil degradation causing people to leaver their villages and overcrowd the cities leadiing to crime and strife that people flee.

We know some things for sure, the sea levels rising. But there are endless impacts we cannot know.

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