NBC - German TV Shows Nazi Symbols on Helmets of Ukraine Soldiers
This is bad. Really really bad.
And understand ZDF is a HUGE tv station in Deutschland akin to CBS in America. And this story isn't right wing, it's from NBC.
[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/german-tv-shows-nazi-symbols-helmets-ukraine-soldiers-n198961|]
"Germans were confronted with images of their country’s dark past on Monday night, when German public broadcaster ZDF showed video of Ukrainian soldiers with Nazi symbols on their helmets in its evening newscast. In a report on the fragile cease-fire in eastern Ukraine, Moscow correspondent Bernhard Lichte used pictures of a soldier wearing a combat helmet with the "SS runes" of Hitler’s infamous black-uniformed elite corps. A second soldier was seen with a swastika on his gear. “Volunteer battalions from nearly every political spectrum are reinforcing the government side,” the ZDF correspondent said in his report.
The video was shot last week in Ukraine by a camera team from Norwegian broadcaster TV2. “We were filming a report about Ukraine’s AZOV battalion in the eastern city of Urzuf, when we came across these soldiers,” Oysten Bogen, a correspondent for the private television station, told NBC News. Minutes before the images were taped, Bogen said he had asked a spokesperson whether the battalion had fascist tendencies. “The reply was: absolutely not, we are just Ukrainian nationalists,” Bogen said.'
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Consider Stuelpnagel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl-Heinrich_von_St%C3%BClpnagel.
Clearly a Nazi. Heil Hitler and all that crap. Truly did horrible things. But was a hindrance to Hitler.
And he was in on the plot to kill Hitler.
Most of the "black orchestra" were Nazis. But wanted to end Nazi Germany. For one reason or another (let's not be simplistic--some just thought Hitler would destroy a great country and were absolute pragmatists in their loathing of the "Leader"
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No matter, he's 100% bad.
Same for a lot of the pro-Nazi groups in Ukraine in the '40s. They were fighting the Soviets before Hitler arrived on the western border, to liberate Ukraine--not to help Hitler. And Hitler's goons were liberating them from the Reds. Many turned on the Nazis months after they arrived--not all--when it was clear they weren't there to liberate the Ukrainians but to be the replacement oppressors. It turned mostly on whether they hated "them ferners" (Jews and Poles) more than they wanted freedom ... or not. But when the Nazis went away (some having essentially fought on the side of the Red Army in their absence) most promptly turned on the newly arrived "lberator" Red Army.
Anti-Soviet fighters. Nazis. Antifa. Pogrom-committers. Anti-Soviet fighters. Pick your month and year, all four or five. (Some of them were a bit more extreme--anti-Jewish and anti-Polish, and committed atrocities against one or both, sometimes by the side of the Nazis or under their "special" command ... then again, it's not like anti-Semitism was a quaint relic of the backwater at the time--just look at FDR--and the Poles had been the oppressors and colonialists before the Russians arrived.)
Which historically accurate facts you pick determine whether the group in question is good, neutral, or bad.
History is messy. Ideology is simplistic. Talking points are simplisticker.
