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Eugene

(61,894 posts)
Sat May 27, 2023, 08:44 AM May 2023

Miami Herald: If report of DeSantis squeezing lobbyists for cash is true, it's a stunning violation

If report of DeSantis squeezing lobbyists for cash is true, it’s a stunning violation ǀ Opinion

If it’s true that Gov. Ron DeSantis’ state employees — not his campaign staff — are soliciting donations from lobbyists for his presidential run, as is being reported, Florida is entering uncharted territory in unethical behavior.

NBC News published a story Thursday that said reporters had seen text messages from four DeSantis administration officials sent to Florida lobbyists requesting contributions to the governor’s campaign. The report said the texts included a link that appeared to track who was giving the money. The texts came from people directly in the governor’s office and leaders in state agencies.

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First of all, the governor should be keeping his campaign — paid for by private donations — and his state staff — paid for by taxpayers — strictly apart. That has long been the norm and for very good reasons. It’s still unclear if what those staffers allegedly are doing is illegal, but the practice most certainly raises the question of whether the governor is wrongly using state resources.

And then there’s the issue of strong-arming lobbyists for cash when they probably make their living by being able to lobby at the state Capitol. Can you afford to say no when the guy asking for money holds your living his hands? Probably not. That, though, would amount to blackmail.


https://news.yahoo.com/report-desantis-squeezing-lobbyists-cash-214827620.html

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It looks like a shakedown. It moves like a shakedown. Does it have to quack like one?
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Miami Herald: If report of DeSantis squeezing lobbyists for cash is true, it's a stunning violation (Original Post) Eugene May 2023 OP
Of course he is going to cheat any way he can can, he's trying to out-trump the trumpste Walleye May 2023 #1
Ron DeFascist. tanyev May 2023 #2
+1 2naSalit May 2023 #13
The fascists will have to go on tv and say I'm a criminal and then take 5 years of investigation to onecaliberal May 2023 #3
He'll demand that the FL legislature Bettie May 2023 #4
+1 Native May 2023 #8
He got paid from the owner of Publix tavernier May 2023 #5
Thank you for this reminder. OMGWTF May 2023 #16
GOP is now home to grifers. Swede May 2023 #6
I wonder if they get the winky wink from the SC insiders to go and proceed. GreenWave May 2023 #7
I think we need to expand the DOJ. There seems to be more crimes than the current one has the time Autumn May 2023 #9
Imagine that. gibraltar72 May 2023 #10
In any jurisdiction that I have ever lived stopdiggin May 2023 #11
Agreed. scarletlib May 2023 #19
It's deliberate. DeSantis is highly educated lawyer. He knows better. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2023 #12
IOKIYAR (in other words, nobody will care or challenge it) Arazi May 2023 #14
The media seems to be in love with desatan kimbutgar May 2023 #15
and yet - the OP gives example of at least stopdiggin May 2023 #20
Norm schmorm CanonRay May 2023 #17
when are these people going to face consenquences ? never. AllaN01Bear May 2023 #18
It is OK. DeSantis is the king of Florida, anything he does is legal. Chainfire May 2023 #21
Miami Herald Speaking Ou Against Cha May 2023 #22
Time of Day? NowISeetheLight May 2023 #23
Not excused in most states. Eugene May 2023 #24
DeathSantis is breaking the law LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #25

onecaliberal

(32,861 posts)
3. The fascists will have to go on tv and say I'm a criminal and then take 5 years of investigation to
Sat May 27, 2023, 08:51 AM
May 2023

Be sure.

Bettie

(16,109 posts)
4. He'll demand that the FL legislature
Sat May 27, 2023, 08:54 AM
May 2023

make it legal for him to do all of this and they will nod vigorously and do just that.

The corruption goes deep among Republicans.

tavernier

(12,388 posts)
5. He got paid from the owner of Publix
Sat May 27, 2023, 09:00 AM
May 2023

to allow the store to be the only provider of Covid vaccines when the pandemic first started.

Autumn

(45,084 posts)
9. I think we need to expand the DOJ. There seems to be more crimes than the current one has the time
Sat May 27, 2023, 09:10 AM
May 2023

and people to handle them.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
11. In any jurisdiction that I have ever lived
Sat May 27, 2023, 10:02 AM
May 2023

(best of my knowledge) Any campaigning or use of state funds by state employees (or office) - while on the clock, or employing any instrument of that office/employment (uniforms, franking, letterheads, seals, websites, etc.) - is clearly spelled out as a violation of the law. You do not co-mingle state coffers with campaigns. Period.

(that this is even a gray area - means that FL is a great exception to this rule - or that the Herald/NBC has somehow mischaracterized ... )

scarletlib

(3,411 posts)
19. Agreed.
Sat May 27, 2023, 11:42 AM
May 2023

In addition the employees probably fear losing their jobs if they don’t go along with this scheme.

kimbutgar

(21,148 posts)
15. The media seems to be in love with desatan
Sat May 27, 2023, 11:08 AM
May 2023

They love his meanness and the cruelty he inflicts upon those who disagree with him. Unfortunately, Desatan will get away with this unethical behavior because of the iokiyar syndrome in this country.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
20. and yet - the OP gives example of at least
Sat May 27, 2023, 11:49 AM
May 2023

two (and quite likely more) major news sources that are highly critical ..
So - not in this instance.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
23. Time of Day?
Sat May 27, 2023, 04:20 PM
May 2023

Unless those texts were sent after work hours it’s clearly an improper use of state employee time.

Eugene

(61,894 posts)
24. Not excused in most states.
Sat May 27, 2023, 04:55 PM
May 2023

The Hatch Act applies if the agency uses federal funds like most. In my home state of Massachusetts, no state employees, not on state property, and especially not on state time.

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