Thu May 25, 2023, 08:38 PM
applegrove (115,539 posts)
White House and G.O.P. Close In on Deal to Raise Debt Limit and Cut Spending
White House and G.O.P. Close In on Deal to Raise Debt Limit and Cut Spending
The details had yet to be finalized, but negotiators were discussing a compromise that would allow Republicans to point to spending reductions and Democrats to say they had protected against large cuts. By Jim Tankersley and Catie Edmondson Reporting from Washington May 25, 2023 Updated 8:30 p.m. ET https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/25/us/politics/republicans-debt-limit-talks-biden.html "SNIP........ Top White House officials and Republican lawmakers were closing in Thursday on a deal that would raise the debt limit for two years while capping federal spending on everything but the military and veterans for the same period. Officials were racing to cement an agreement in time to avert a federal default that is projected in just one week. The deal taking shape would allow Republicans to say that they were reducing some federal spending — even as spending on the military and veterans’ programs would continue to grow — and allow Democrats to say they had spared most domestic programs from significant cuts. Negotiators from both sides were talking into the evening and beginning to draft legislative text, though some details remained in flux. “We’ve been talking to the White House all day, we’ve been going back and forth, and it’s not easy,” Mr. McCarthy told reporters as he left the Capitol on Thursday evening, declining to divulge what was under discussion. “It takes a while to make it happen, and we are working hard to make it happen.” ..........SNIP"
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applegrove | May 2023 | OP |
Beachnutt | May 2023 | #1 | |
applegrove | May 2023 | #2 | |
Beachnutt | May 2023 | #3 | |
applegrove | May 2023 | #4 | |
Mad_Machine76 | May 2023 | #14 | |
PortTack | May 2023 | #15 | |
DemocraticPatriot | May 2023 | #5 | |
sheshe2 | May 2023 | #6 | |
DemocraticPatriot | May 2023 | #8 | |
applegrove | May 2023 | #11 | |
sheshe2 | May 2023 | #12 | |
Happy Hoosier | May 2023 | #7 | |
kacekwl | May 2023 | #9 | |
Hotler | May 2023 | #10 | |
PortTack | May 2023 | #16 | |
progressoid | May 2023 | #17 | |
Beautiful Disaster | May 2023 | #13 |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2023, 08:42 PM
Beachnutt (6,464 posts)
1. Will McQarthy get any of the work requirements he wants
so he can turn around and tell the poor folks it was the Democrats idea and they had to concede to it ?
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Response to Beachnutt (Reply #1)
Thu May 25, 2023, 08:49 PM
applegrove (115,539 posts)
2. Here is a quote from the article:
"SNIP........ Negotiators were still at loggerheads over work requirements for social safety net programs and permitting reform for domestic energy and gas projects. .........SNIP" https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/25/us/politics/republicans-debt-limit-talks-biden.html |
Response to applegrove (Reply #2)
Thu May 25, 2023, 08:57 PM
Beachnutt (6,464 posts)
3. Thank you.
And good, I hope they stay at a loggerhead on those issues.
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Response to applegrove (Reply #2)
Thu May 25, 2023, 11:31 PM
Mad_Machine76 (24,074 posts)
14. Don't most social safety net programs
ALREADY have work requirements! What other programs is McCarthy talking about?!
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Response to Mad_Machine76 (Reply #14)
Thu May 25, 2023, 11:47 PM
PortTack (30,741 posts)
15. You are correct...they do!
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2023, 09:07 PM
DemocraticPatriot (2,614 posts)
5. Mr. McCarthy has claimed that California "allows abortions after birth..."
I would like to invite him to meet me in California. I would like to talk that over with him.......
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Response to DemocraticPatriot (Reply #5)
Thu May 25, 2023, 09:24 PM
sheshe2 (80,811 posts)
6. Perhaps he could explain...
How a woman can have an abortion after the delivery?
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #6)
Thu May 25, 2023, 09:47 PM
DemocraticPatriot (2,614 posts)
8. I don't wish for an explanation....
but I would be happy to take him up on his "offer"
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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #6)
Thu May 25, 2023, 10:47 PM
applegrove (115,539 posts)
11. Not everybody who is pro choice are for late term abortions. Like me.
Response to applegrove (Reply #11)
Thu May 25, 2023, 11:15 PM
sheshe2 (80,811 posts)
12. The poster I responded to said this:
Mr. McCarthy has claimed that California "allows abortions after birth..."
I would like to invite him to meet me in California. I would like to talk that over with him....... I don't believe in late term abortions unless the mother is at risk. That said it is impossible for any woman to have an "abortion after birth" It is impossible to abort a child that has already come into the world. You cannot abort a birthed baby! |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2023, 09:37 PM
Happy Hoosier (5,436 posts)
7. I admit I'm disappointed...
… that Biden negotiated on this. He said he wouldn’t. We are now in a situation that when the Thugs control a house, we’re gonna have to give in to them. Because they know we’ll eventually cave.
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2023, 10:02 PM
kacekwl (6,886 posts)
9. Big mistake if true.
NEVER should have started any negotiations until repukes agreed as fiscal conservatives to repeal trumps tax give away to the poor downtrodden billionaires and millionaires.
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2023, 10:20 PM
Hotler (10,698 posts)
10. "Top White House officials and Republican lawmakers were closing in Thursday on"
what kind of shit sandwich to feed the American workers, hot and steamy or, cold and crunchy. We should have told them to pound sand and stood ground for a clean bill and made the fascist own it. I believe all the worry and hand wringing over the default is more about protecting the portfolios of the rich here and abroad more so than us.
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Response to Hotler (Reply #10)
Thu May 25, 2023, 11:50 PM
PortTack (30,741 posts)
16. President Biden has said repeatedly that he will not accept any cuts to programs that would hurt
Families, military, seniors..etc. I believe him
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Thu May 25, 2023, 11:25 PM
Beautiful Disaster (667 posts)
13. This would be a good deal if Biden can get it.
Especially if it doesn't actually specify specific programs that need to be cut. That leads to a lot of wiggle room.
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