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gab13by13

(21,341 posts)
Tue May 23, 2023, 01:05 PM May 2023

The Durham Report Was Incomplete

Waiting on his report about Italy Gate. Italian government officials produced evidence of possible Trump financial crimes.

Bill Barr had no business giving that case to Durham, but he did, so where's the report?

I guess we just let it go, nothing to see?

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gab13by13

(21,341 posts)
3. Barr had no business giving that case to Durham,
Tue May 23, 2023, 01:38 PM
May 2023

but he did, then nothing. Shouldn't our DOJ want to follow the facts to see where they lead?


Shit just gets dropped when it involves Magats.

DOJ should be investigating Clarence Thomas, but there is no snowball in hell chance of that happening.

I'm wondering if Italy Gate has something to do with the stolen classified documents?

Beastly Boy

(9,347 posts)
4. Other than a rant, does this have a purpose?
Tue May 23, 2023, 02:12 PM
May 2023

Durham submitted his report. If anything you think should be there is not, it is still a complete report. If there is nothing in it about Italy Gate, how reasonable is it to wait for Italy Gate to suddenly appear there? Or do you expect Italy Gate to materialize in any other way? What do you imagine it might be?


gab13by13

(21,341 posts)
5. What is the purpose of your post?
Tue May 23, 2023, 02:44 PM
May 2023

"Italy Gate" isn't some off the wall conspiracy theory about Trump, it comes from Italian government officials. I must assume that those Italian government officials believe there is evidence of possible Trump crimes or they wouldn't have brought to the attention of Durham/Barr.

I have no faith that Durham and or Barr investigated the information the Italian government provided.

My purpose is to have a resolution of Italy Gate not to simply ignore it. If there is nothing there to see then Durham should have said so.
Beyond that;
My far out hope was for someone in Garland's justice department do an investigation as it appears that Durham did nothing.

Beastly Boy

(9,347 posts)
7. I admit, the purpose of my post is pretty selfish.
Tue May 23, 2023, 03:44 PM
May 2023

Now that the genres of Garland bashing, meaningless counting of the months and ill-informed references to the Mueller report have all but exhausted themselves, I detect another endless series of self-perpetuating grievances that have no resolution in logic or reason coming to replace them. I just want to put an end to this before I get overwhelmed with yet another stream of nonsense.

Notwithstanding the above, I am fully aware that Italy Gate appears to have some basis in fact, nebulous a as it is, and that Barr and Durham were more aware of it than anyone else. But you are far from proposing any resolution to Italy Gate. On the contrary, a demand to see what does not exist in the Durham report, along with failing to articulate how your proposition can possibly take place, lead to a dead end where the outrage and blame for failing to take on an impossible mission with unknown objectives can find easy targets, and the same talking points repeated again and again with full knowledge of them being meaningless.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
8. I think it comes from EXPECTING the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing BUT the truth.
Tue May 23, 2023, 04:19 PM
May 2023

The 'Bull Durham' Report was 'Bull'Shit - incomplete and a lot of 'gas' without any energy.
And that's to be expected from Barr-Barr-Hut - just like he glossed over the Mueller Report - perhaps 'glossed over' is being kind - more like BURIED!

Beastly Boy

(9,347 posts)
9. I don't quite get the connection.
Tue May 23, 2023, 06:54 PM
May 2023

Promoting nonsense comes from expecting truth? How does THAT work?

I am all in favor of expecting truth from DOJ employees, and I have absolutely no issue with that expectation. My problem with the OP is that he is expecting the truth from specific sources where, by definition, truth is not going to be found (the Durham report). He knows the Durham report is complete. He knows there is no mention of Italy Gate in that completed report. Yet, he is "Waiting on his [Durham's] report about Italy Gate". And not getting the report from this source that does not, as a matter of established fact, contain the anticipated report is reason enough for an ongoing grievance that will never bi satisfied.

It's a circular argument: I know the truth I expect is not in the Durham report, and unless I see it in the Durham report, I will remain outraged and will vent my outrage for as long as I don't find the truth in the Durham report. And, since my expectation will never materialize, I might even start counting the days from the time I was first outraged by the Durham report. Just because it lends appearance of legitimacy to my otherwise illegitimate outrage.

And that translates into expectation of truth... how?




Bev54

(10,052 posts)
6. It wasn't just complete but he bases his conclusions on the same evidence that was
Tue May 23, 2023, 02:46 PM
May 2023

outright rejected by two juries in courts of law, but like Trump he keeps repeating the lies.

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