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Pluvious

(4,365 posts)
Sat May 20, 2023, 11:42 AM May 2023

The future is here: Compton's new indoor vertical farm

The is the future of our cities



This is straight out of the minds of SciFi writers (like Frederik Pohl, “The Space Merchants” albeit not a giant endlessly growing chicken breast… Yet!)

COMPTON, Calif. (KABC) -- A new indoor farm in the city of Compton was officially unveiled Thursday and is set to provide more access to fresh food while bringing more jobs to the city.

Plenty, which specializes in indoor vertical farms, held a ribbon-cutting ceremony for the opening of the Plenty Compton Farm, which is being described as "the world's most technologically advanced indoor vertical farm."

The company said it's designed to grow up to 4.5 million pounds of leafy greens annually in a single city block.

"Plenty is an indoor growing company so we grow plants inside without the sun in controlled environments," said Plenty CEO Arama Kukutai. "We are producing leafy greens and we also produce tomatoes, in the future, we'll be producing strawberries and other fruit and produce."

https://abc7.com/compton-indoor-farm-plenty-fresh-produce-food/13270380/
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The future is here: Compton's new indoor vertical farm (Original Post) Pluvious May 2023 OP
We have had this in Ohio for several years. I always buy the lettuce much fresher and safer than Demsrule86 May 2023 #1
Fascinating. Thank you so much for sharing. niyad May 2023 #2
I remember seeing something similar or the prototype at Epcot at Disney. It was fascinating! Maraya1969 May 2023 #3
Was wondering about pesticides but there are none. Wonder about the "soil" they are grown in. efhmc May 2023 #4
usually something like coir RussBLib May 2023 #6
I would imagine that is probably a proprietary mixture of things GregariousGroundhog May 2023 #7
That looks like aeroponic columns to me.. Volaris May 2023 #20
How does it affect the actual amount/type of nutrients in the plant product? Are they still efhmc May 2023 #21
Well, it's basically vitamin water, but it's made in-house Volaris May 2023 #25
This is great, but... RussBLib May 2023 #5
a lot of electricity to run 15,000 of those d_r May 2023 #18
MAGA will spray herbicides on those green ideas bucolic_frolic May 2023 #8
Nice, but I have to wonder what the cost was for the system that MineralMan May 2023 #9
I think a key is where is the energy coming from to run the lights Unwind Your Mind May 2023 #11
I wonder how much energy to run one like this. Bev54 May 2023 #10
Awesome! SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #12
Producing cannabis amongst the leafy greens could subsidize future development. Marcuse May 2023 #13
The problem with growing cannabis swong19104 May 2023 #15
I think you and I live in very different states d_r May 2023 #19
Wow! Thanks for posting. nt TeamProg May 2023 #14
US grocery stores toss out tons every day. Kaleva May 2023 #16
Yawn. Wake me when they produce REAL crops in volume NickB79 May 2023 #17
I'm really sorry for you that you're missing the entire point of such a project. Stinky The Clown May 2023 #23
In 2008, before The Great Recession, I was part of a team planning a very similar . . . . Stinky The Clown May 2023 #22
Thanks for sharing, Stinky - I recall in Japan, I think... Pluvious May 2023 #24
so Compton may become a major supplier of fresh greens to local markets and restaurants! DBoon May 2023 #26

Demsrule86

(68,929 posts)
1. We have had this in Ohio for several years. I always buy the lettuce much fresher and safer than
Sat May 20, 2023, 11:50 AM
May 2023

lettuce shipped in.

RussBLib

(9,067 posts)
6. usually something like coir
Sat May 20, 2023, 12:24 PM
May 2023

and that is plentiful. There are many other soil-less growing mediums out there.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,531 posts)
7. I would imagine that is probably a proprietary mixture of things
Sat May 20, 2023, 12:45 PM
May 2023

Growing mediums in hydroponics systems usually contain clay pellets, perlite, vermiculate, shredded coconut husks, or a mixture of those things. A solution of water, nitrogen, phosphorous, potassium, and other trace minerals are run through the grow medium.

Volaris

(10,284 posts)
20. That looks like aeroponic columns to me..
Sat May 20, 2023, 03:20 PM
May 2023

Which means no dirt. Plant tea pumped to the top of the building, and gravity pulls it down the root system.

efhmc

(14,749 posts)
21. How does it affect the actual amount/type of nutrients in the plant product? Are they still
Sat May 20, 2023, 06:06 PM
May 2023

the same as if they were grown in regular soil?

Volaris

(10,284 posts)
25. Well, it's basically vitamin water, but it's made in-house
Sat May 20, 2023, 10:06 PM
May 2023

So you put in, whatever your specific plants need. Most homemade/small scale plant tea is made from adding homemade compost to water, and adding a bit of phosphate powder. But it's tailored to the plant type

RussBLib

(9,067 posts)
5. This is great, but...
Sat May 20, 2023, 12:23 PM
May 2023

...we only need about 15,000 more of these around the country. A lot of red mayors and red-state governors will have nothing to do with this. It looks too "woke."

MineralMan

(146,364 posts)
9. Nice, but I have to wonder what the cost was for the system that
Sat May 20, 2023, 01:06 PM
May 2023

was installed and what the costs of planting, feeding, and harvesting are. Finally, what is the price of that produce once it reaches a market? How does that price compare with produce raised in more traditional ways. Tell me that and I'll tell you what I think about this technology.

I note that no cost or price information is ever available for such projects.

Unwind Your Mind

(2,046 posts)
11. I think a key is where is the energy coming from to run the lights
Sat May 20, 2023, 01:16 PM
May 2023

If it’s solar then this could run very efficiently as far as space, water and energy.

The start up infrastructure cost has to be pretty high though

Marcuse

(7,574 posts)
13. Producing cannabis amongst the leafy greens could subsidize future development.
Sat May 20, 2023, 01:22 PM
May 2023
"We are producing leafy greens and we also produce tomatoes, in the future, we'll be producing strawberries and other fruit and produce."

swong19104

(309 posts)
15. The problem with growing cannabis
Sat May 20, 2023, 02:09 PM
May 2023

is that it's too easy to grow them. Sure, there's some thought and effort required to grow certain strains, but marijuana is fairly easy to grow. That means anyone can grow them, which makes them hard to sell because the supply is rather ample.

NickB79

(19,310 posts)
17. Yawn. Wake me when they produce REAL crops in volume
Sat May 20, 2023, 02:24 PM
May 2023

Corn, wheat, rice, potatoes, oats, etc. Ya know, the calorie powerhouse crops that keep people alive, not salad greens that play a negligible role in addressing world hunger.

If the future of vertical farming is limited to lettuce, arugula, and tomatoes, it will never play a serious role in feeding the planet.

Stinky The Clown

(67,855 posts)
22. In 2008, before The Great Recession, I was part of a team planning a very similar . . . .
Sat May 20, 2023, 08:22 PM
May 2023

. . . . project in one of the six open atriums at the USDA HQ in DC (center of the image). Planning was to about 60% when the plug got pulled. It was never resurrected by GSA or the USDA. It was to be a small demonstration project, mostly supplying fresh produce the cafeteria below.

Pluvious

(4,365 posts)
24. Thanks for sharing, Stinky - I recall in Japan, I think...
Sat May 20, 2023, 09:10 PM
May 2023

… the indoor farms are catching on

It goes without saying that the Dutch are one of the World’s leaders at this

IIRC they’ve pioneered much of breakthroughs in LED lighting spectrum
selection for optimization of growth rates

DBoon

(22,449 posts)
26. so Compton may become a major supplier of fresh greens to local markets and restaurants!
Sat May 20, 2023, 11:27 PM
May 2023

This isn't about feeding the world - it is about creating a high value niche product that a suffering community can use to employ its citizens, enrich the local economy and raise its profile.

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