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BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:08 PM May 2023

I take ten minutes to vote once every two years. So give me what I want.

Also, 23% of my age group did as well in 2022, compared with 45% of the population overall. So we definitely did our part.

I know you support what I want, and the real problem is the other party. But I'm still going to blame you and stop voting if you don't get it done.

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I take ten minutes to vote once every two years. So give me what I want. (Original Post) BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 OP
Yep, stay home and don't vote, that'll teach the Democrats Walleye May 2023 #1
it happened in 2010 and in 2012 , obama didnt close gitmo, obama didnt end dadt fast enough Fullduplexxx May 2023 #6
Has someone said this? If so, could you link to it? Scrivener7 May 2023 #2
Paraphrasing David Hogg's Tweet-rant maxsolomon May 2023 #4
This thread is an immature overreaction on my part. BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 #5
Well... David Hogg gets a pass on being perceived as "rash" on gun Scrivener7 May 2023 #10
He did not get a pass from the Never Again Movement. DURHAM D May 2023 #11
He was a high school kid when he had an experience like the ones that give experienced Scrivener7 May 2023 #13
He is wasted talent. Too bad. DURHAM D May 2023 #14
I hope no one ever judges you so harshly. Scrivener7 May 2023 #15
lol - He is in the national spotlight because he craves it. DURHAM D May 2023 #16
Again, I hope no one ever judges you so harshly. Scrivener7 May 2023 #17
It's amazing to see virtual shut-ins going after this kid when he's out there putting in on the line Hassin Bin Sober May 2023 #23
What inthewind21 May 2023 #25
+1 sheshe2 May 2023 #29
TY Durham.. I feel so badly Cha May 2023 #31
Why would I lobby someone who disagrees with every single one of my opinions, when I've already WhiskeyGrinder May 2023 #3
I agree with your logic... Caliman73 May 2023 #18
Spread this far & wide, especially among young & new voters. CrispyQ May 2023 #7
only ten minutes? So, you are one of the lucky ones. Earth-shine May 2023 #8
You're going to take your ball and go home because you don't get your own way? pwb May 2023 #9
Maybe you forgot the sarcasm tag? nt BlackSkimmer May 2023 #12
No. Didn't forget it. Caliman73 May 2023 #19
Said no one ever but you? You are damn lucky it took you ten minutes to vote. Autumn May 2023 #20
Well, someone else said it in a very popular thread. BlueCheeseAgain May 2023 #26
Sometimes I feel like there's a secret contest Sympthsical May 2023 #21
I vote in every single election, even those at state and municipal levels. Initech May 2023 #22
About inthewind21 May 2023 #24
10 minutes where do you vote I'm jealous Tribetime May 2023 #27
That is all it takes for me as well, MA here. sheshe2 May 2023 #30
Okay? nt Tommy Carcetti May 2023 #28

Walleye

(31,137 posts)
1. Yep, stay home and don't vote, that'll teach the Democrats
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:12 PM
May 2023
So young people don’t vote for Democrats because you’re butt hurt, don’t forget you will have to live with the consequences of being told what to do by the likes of Ron DeSantis. But sure stick to your principles

Fullduplexxx

(7,878 posts)
6. it happened in 2010 and in 2012 , obama didnt close gitmo, obama didnt end dadt fast enough
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:21 PM
May 2023

it's how we got the tea-baggers... seems like every several years dems make the same mistakes.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
5. This thread is an immature overreaction on my part.
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:20 PM
May 2023

There's another thread on here where someone (not a DUer) takes Schumer to task for not pushing an assault weapons ban and basically saying the youth vote will stay home. I'm just a little tired of Dem-bashing (again, not by DUers) when the real problem is the GOP.

DURHAM D

(32,617 posts)
11. He did not get a pass from the Never Again Movement.
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:47 PM
May 2023

They sidelined him because of emails and comments like the one that is floating around here somewhere. He has a history of attacking the wrong people.

He is very articulate and I hoped he would mature but sadly...

Scrivener7

(51,076 posts)
13. He was a high school kid when he had an experience like the ones that give experienced
Tue May 16, 2023, 04:05 PM
May 2023

soldiers PTSD for the rest of their lives.

So whether the Never Again movement gives him a pass or not, I do.

DURHAM D

(32,617 posts)
16. lol - He is in the national spotlight because he craves it.
Tue May 16, 2023, 04:17 PM
May 2023

Being judged regarding his tactics comes with the territory.



 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
25. What
Tue May 16, 2023, 05:20 PM
May 2023

Exactly is he putting on the line? His book deals, speaking engagements or the business ventures he's attempting to peruse? Or maybe those donations he asking for?

Cha

(297,937 posts)
31. TY Durham.. I feel so badly
Fri May 19, 2023, 02:32 PM
May 2023

for him and all the kids and people who are victims and survivors of gun violence.. but you have to be smart about changing the laws.

Does he think the magats are going to help us when it would only get exponentially worse?

DH does have a history of going after the wrong people. I remember this kind of thing before.

I wonder what Fred Guttenberg thinks of this?



WhiskeyGrinder

(22,494 posts)
3. Why would I lobby someone who disagrees with every single one of my opinions, when I've already
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:14 PM
May 2023

got common ground with someone I've supported and who I know will at least listen to me? Especially if I have some social capital with that person and their allies?

Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
18. I agree with your logic...
Tue May 16, 2023, 04:33 PM
May 2023

It is pointless to lobby a fundamentally opposed opponent.

I would debate whether it was lobbying or a threat.

I had a similar discussion with my wife regarding the tweet.

Certainly more young people voted in the last couple of elections, but it is still not enough. Certainly not enough to be demanding "or else" type things.

I actually would even agree with what Hogg is requesting regarding taking up a new AWB. The problem is that even with the increase in young voting, we still lost the House and are hanging on to the Senate by a margin in which one ill Senator created a hold up in confirmations of judges, and one conservative Democrat and one turn coat, have been able to derail a lot of changes that could have helped a lot of people.

If we had 54 Senators and control of the House, and were still handwringing about common sense gun safety laws, then I would 100% be behind Hogg.

From where we are now, it looks like someone stamping their feet. We need to get more, progressive Democrats elected. People who will take up the bold actions that Hogg and others are asking for. We need people who are going to fight and actually do things that benefit the average person and not primarily the wealthy. The "youth vote" needs to come out in earnest and show us old folks how to do it. 23% is not "doing it".

I have voted in every election except maybe one when I was sick and vote by mail was not as prevalent, since I was 18. I have volunteered for campaigns and have tried to do as much as I can locally. I would like to see the change I want, but you have to do more than tweet and threaten the leader of the party that is most likely to do what you ask. You have to show them that you actually have the backing of the group you purport to represent.

pwb

(11,306 posts)
9. You're going to take your ball and go home because you don't get your own way?
Tue May 16, 2023, 03:31 PM
May 2023

It is about all of us.
Leave if you want. Where are you going to go? Not voting is a vote against progress.

Caliman73

(11,760 posts)
19. No. Didn't forget it.
Tue May 16, 2023, 04:36 PM
May 2023

I took the meaning. The OP is sort of mocking the tweet from David Hogg where Hogg seemingly threatens Chuck Schumer with withholding the youth vote because Democrats back Background checks but won't commit to bringing up a new Assault Weapons Ban.

Hogg seemed to think that the way that young people voted in the last couple of election cycles, is enough to try to move the entire Democratic Party to backing the AWB and that telling Schumer this was a good political strategy.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
20. Said no one ever but you? You are damn lucky it took you ten minutes to vote.
Tue May 16, 2023, 04:41 PM
May 2023

Others stand in line for quite a while, and that's after driving or using other transportation to a polling place.

Sympthsical

(9,172 posts)
21. Sometimes I feel like there's a secret contest
Tue May 16, 2023, 04:58 PM
May 2023

No one told me about. It is held somewhat regularly and called, "People You Should Never Hire For Voter Outreach"

And everyone's winning.

Initech

(100,130 posts)
22. I vote in every single election, even those at state and municipal levels.
Tue May 16, 2023, 05:04 PM
May 2023

If you don't vote, that's how the fascists win. And also take the time to educate yourself on who's running. Because there are some seriously batshit crazy candidates out there running, and those are the ones who tend to be the loudest, the most vocal, and the most deranged.

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