Message to all non-Floridians on this website:

[Tommy Carcetti]

We're 1) very aware of the problem, and we're 2) working our hardest to fix it.

Now, put down the Bugs Bunny gifs and tired "FloriDUH" references for right now, m'kay?

Thank you.

[Easterncedar]

1. Bravo!

The resistance needs more attention from all of us. The fight affects us all.

[milestogo]

2. Got it.

[FM123]

3. Yep.

Still here, and still fighting the good fight!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. Thank you Florida Democrats! . . . . nt

[Lovie777]

5. I was just thinking about this...................

friends are in blue areas in Florida, and they are aware of DeSatan's plan to turn Florida into a conservative hell hole. They are fighting back.

[Freddie]

8. My son is one of them

Thankfully he’s in (probably) the last blue area left, Palm Beach County. He & wife have great jobs and just bought a house, but would come home (to PA) if they could.

[SheilaAnn]

6. Tommy, you are da man..Thanks from West Palm. n/t

[treestar]

7. OK though I don't know if I can give up

Florida Man.

[Tommy Carcetti]

11. If you like Florida Man, all you have to do is revert him back to his original purpose.

Florida Man was a fun-loving, free-wheeling anything goes guy who liked to take his pet alligator to his local Wendy's. Nothing wrong with that.

Ron DeSantis isn't a Florida Man; Ron DeSantis is just an asshole.

[2naSalit]

13. My one...

Reservation for sure. Florida man is a national icon now, for good or ill.

Something has to be done about the mini-florida sort of battle for control is happening in my R controlled state too.

[Johnny2X2X]

9. +1000

We paint with too broad a brush state by state. Florida is a state Trump barely won, there are millions of Floridians who are horrofied by what DeSantis is doing and are working to fight back.

There are good Dems in every state, even states like Alabama and Mississippi has pockets of liberals doing their best to improve their states.

[In It to Win It]

10. 3) We could use some assistance.

[CaptainTruth]

24. +1000

[Pacifist Patriot]

55. Amen!

[Deuxcents]

12. Thanks for the post..

Florida governor is about ready to sign papers for his presidential run in 2024. It’s all our fight now.

[EYESORE 9001]

14. They came for the flyover states and I said nothing...

Actually, I said quite a lot on the subject. Regional chauvinism is most unbecoming, especially on an ostensibly Democratic board.

[wryter2000]

15. It's easy to mock from a safe place

I know how fortunate I am in Barbara Lee country.

[RevBrotherThomas]

83. For sure...

I am in NY - but in blood-red Nassau County, which just announced NO on asylum seekers/immigrants

[CatWoman]

16. ....

Link to tweet

?s=20

[Deuxcents]

70. He's right and it breaks my heart

[LittleGirl]

84. Wow, love that guy. Thanks for sharing. nt

[TheProle]

17. Yeah I tried to get some traction on discussing regional bias

but it went nowhere. Better luck with your thread.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217902775

[maxrandb]

18. Sorry, but as we are hurtling at break-neck speed towards fascism and the destruction of democracy

forgive me my unwillingness to wait.

At one time, about 100 years ago, we tried to give the "good people" of Germany time to defeat fascism. By the time the fascist were done fixing the electoral process, the courts, the legislature and the schools and libraries, IT WAS TOO FUCKING LATE.

[Hortensis]

35. Unwilling to wait to surrender one of our 50 states to fascism?

That IS pure appeasement, maxrandb. Right up there with the League of Nations' abandonment to fascist takeover of nations, including MEMBERS, that rightfully expected their help.

There are other and worse words than appeasement for that. And none of them mean stopping fascism, so just what is it you can't wait for?

[maxrandb]

50. Look at Ohio, look at Wisconsin, look at North Carolina

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Look at all the states, including Florida, where the votes increasingly doesn't fucking matter.

In Ohio, Retrumplicans can win 49.8% of the state, and end up with 86% of the state and national representation.

The Retrumplican Party has won the national vote for president ONCE in the past 30 years, but have a 6-3 majority on the Supreme Court.

North Carolina is about to ensure Retrumplican rule for a fucking generation, or two, regardless of whether or not that is what a majority of the state wants, or votes for.

Retrumplicans in Texas are taking control of elections in the states largest blue county.

They just tried to violently overthrow our democracy, and won't fail the next time

I can't wait for people to realize we are perilously close to losing, or in some cases have, lost our democracy.

Maybe, instead of asking me what I can't wait for, ask the people of Florida just what in the fuck they are waiting for?

[Hortensis]

58. The way to defeat an enemy is to go after him, not everyone.

And for that, first people have to get their personal ducks in a row. Define what they need to protect. What they need to fight and defeat.

Self discipline. Commitment. Courage.

"Florida Derangement" is distracting from what's happening in your state, and probably intended to.

Notably, Republicans in most red states have almost unbreakable control. But Florida's still a potential swing state. How many spitting at all the people of Florida in incredible displays of misguided fear and malice can say that about their own?

[maxrandb]

59. I think you are wrong

The Anti-Apartheid sanctions of South Africa impacted all South Africans, not just the pro-apartheid folks.

The Montgomery Bus Boycott targeted all of Montgomery, not just the pro Jim Crow folks.

The Memphis Sanitation Strike targeted all of Memphis, not just the pro Jim Crow folks.

The Civil War targeted all of the Confederacy, not just the people that owned slaves.

The California farm worker strike targeted all consumers of produce, not just those that supported the slave labor conditions.

How you can see the landscape of the past 40 years, and not see the need for bold action, even economic sanctions on those attacking democracy, is beyond me.

[BlackSkimmer]

93. This.

I have many, many friends in Florida - most of them gay, and though they despise DeSantis, they howl with laughter when I tell them that according to DU, "genocide" is happening there right fucking now!

Sometimes I think there are some who just love to say their region is perfect, best, better than everywhere else, etc.

Every single state has these fools.

[yardwork]

37. And Bugs Bunny gifs will win the battle?

The OP says he's fighting. Millions of Floridians are fighting. Nobody is saying to wait. The OP says stop mocking and start helping, that's all.

[Martin68]

80. Bugs Bunny gifs are a very gentle way to comment on a state government attacking a corporation for

supporting diversity and LGBTQ rights. If you want to understand what real nasty political discourse is, I'll refer you to the never-ending attacks on Obama during his eight years in office. "Flori-duh" attacks everyone in Florida, so I have some sympathy with the post in that regard. But Bugs Bunny gifs? C'mon.

[treestar]

63. A US state is not a country

it can be stopped. Most of DeSantis' crap in unconstitutional. Even Barret and Kavanaugh woud get that.

[paulkienitz]

19. Sounds like Florida has an overworked tech support staff.

[Cha]

20. I have Loved ones there.. it's

the mini Mussolini I hate.. and the State House.

I'm going to St Pete the last of September for my Nephew's Wedding Oct 1st!

[lark2]

21. Hey, I live here and feel your pain!

This state has changed for the worse, that's for sure, but I've been here over 50 years all together and we have a nice little corner in "paradise" that I don't want to lose. I'm even considering signing up to work with FL Democratic party again for the presidential election.

[AndyS]

22. I feel your pain. Live in Texas. Nuf' said. nt

[mgardener]

23. Please don't judge me

Because I live in Elise Stefanik's district!!!

[Tommy Carcetti]

28. That's unpossible!

Because that would mean you live in New York, and apparently New York has everything figured out right by now!

[Native]

25. I was born and raised in Florida, and none of that bothers me.

I've always been very fond of Floriduh.

For clarification, you guys are my family, and I know you don't believe that everyone in Florida is a racist idiot. That's why stuff like that doesn't bother me here, and it certainly applies to a wide swath of the population!

[Tommy Carcetti]

26. Well, speak for yourself then.

It's like how members in some racial or ethnic groups will try to appropriate a certain slur made against them, while others want absolutely nothing to do with it.

I myself don't care for "FloriDUH" that much, in part because it's just so dull and tired as an attempt at humor.

[Native]

30. Speaking for myself is something I enjoy. Thank you for allowing me this opportunity.

[Hortensis]

27. And, PLEASE, stop recommending people abandon their values

and duties to others,, and their votes!, in Florida to run like bunnies.

Contrary to a peculiar view of some on this topic, running and abandoning those who have to stay to their imagined horrific futures is the opposite of being principled and the opposite of taking a stand.

[Tommy Carcetti]

29. I work in a profession where that's not practical or easy to do even if I wanted to.

So sorry, Florida, you're stuck with me, and I with you.

[Native]

32. Let me guess... you wrestle gators?

[Hortensis]

42. Teaching dogs to surf trikes me as more like Tommy Carcetti.

Maybe he's an engineer who specializes in sand. That's definitely a Florida thing.

[jaxexpat]

53. He may have come for the big "sand boom" but he's staying for the flesh-eating bacteria.

They all do......It's weird, I know.

[treestar]

62. lawyer

means a new exam to switch states.

[CaptainTruth]

34. +1000

[CaptainTruth]

31. THANK YOU!

I'm SOOO tired of the "Florida is a lost cause, give up & leave" sentiment.

When the going gets tough the tough get going, but Democrats... what? Give up & leave? Is that who we are? No! We're not, no way.

Florida is on the front line of fascism in America & I'm staying here & fighting it every way I can.

[Hortensis]

49. +1000, except that I don't think FL IS the front line.

Just spotlit and distracting from the fact that it is in a double rank of states where authoritarian takeovers are underway/being attempted. DeSantis is just greedy for personal attention for all the wrong things, like tRump.

But this is a dangerous time even in states where Republicans have unbreakable control, and most are no doubt happy to have the spotlight distracted to FL as they consolidate power and eliminate rights and protections for their own people.

It's also worth noting that a bunch of red-state governments are under complete Republican control and nowhere close to being flippable, but Florida is flippable.

[CaptainTruth]

91. IMHO the front line runs through several states & FL is one of them.

That's how I meant it, probably not clear.

[appalachiablue]

86. +1 Give em hell Cap. FL still has many good folks of all ages & backgrounds.

[JCMach1]

33. I was born in Florida: a place run by progressive Dems like Reuben Asken, Bob Graham and Lawton Chil

I don't recognize my state any more.

[yardwork]

36. Long-time resident of North Carolina salutes you.

What's happening in Florida could happen anywhere in the U.S.

George Santos got elected in New York. California is where Ronald Reagan got his start in politics, as governor. Literally any state could go rogue.

We need a 50-state strategy. North Carolina was abandoned by the DNC in 2022 and we lost a senate seat we should have had, plus we lost the state Supreme Court, plus the Rethugs now have a super majority in the legislature.

We need a 50-state strategy.

[jayschool2013]

38. Lived there back in '80s

Too many people then. Way too many now.

Good luck with everything, including saving the state from the devastating effects of climate change.

It won't be easy.

[Hortensis]

39. TYVM for bringing out the overwhelming support for UNITED states, Tommy!

And simple decency and intelligence.

[XanaDUer2]

40. Bravo nt

[Hope22]

41. My hat is off to you.

In Ohio I find it hard to defend a state that is selling its soul to the devils. Time will tell!

[SouthernDem4ever]

43. The word Floriduh was straight from a column in the Sentinel

And I will use it as long as all the dumb dolts are running the state. I am in Georgia. Feel free to reciprocate.

[Tommy Carcetti]

61. I have zero desire to reciprocate.

Namely because I don't think states are monoliths of people.

[yaesu]

44. Totally understand, but

I will avoid all states governed by fascists like the plague. Nothing against the fine folk living there, just wouldn't spend a dime in nor feel safe in states run my fascists.

[mcar]

45. Happy to rec this

[moonshinegnomie]

46. im in texas so i feel you

[WcoastO]

47. Unfortunately,

the GQP Fascists steamrolled the Dems into irrelevance. Dems have absolutely no power....DeSantis barely won his first election for Governor; won by a landslide in the last one. GQP has super majorities in the legislature and hold every state office. Thanks to gerrymandering, the power is baked in and the GQP will make laws and rules to tighten the grip. SCOTUS will be of little help. Dems have lost a substantial % of the Hispanic support. I'm curious, just what is the plan to turn things around?

[tavernier]

48. I was on the front page of the Miami Herald with Bob Graham

on his last official day before he retired. He came to the Keys to wrap Christmas presents for underprivileged kids, sponsored by the Keys Democrats. I was the only one wearing a Santa hat, so the photographers wanted me in the picture. Otherwise I was nobody important, L O L but I did get to meet him and have a short conversation. His interest in people was very obvious and he impressed me with his warmth and intelligence. And now we have Trump and DeSantis.

Anyway, My piece of the world is still paradise, and those two fools won’t drive me out. Thanks for the OP, TC!

[lonely bird]

51. Not to worry

Ohio is racing Florida to the bottom.

[Jon King]

52. We love FL and are going to keep fighting.

It works for our family because we are into outdoor sports and do not like cold weather. Not much to do but keep fighting the terrible people who control the government here.

[KS Toronado]

54. Hope Bugs calling a square dance is still OK

[msdogi]

56. We hear you

I believe that Florida, like all states, has more of us than them. They're just way louder and much less civil.

[Warpy]

57. How about "all the nuts roll down to Florida?"

It's true, you know, even though there are still some on the trees elsewhere.

I was born there but I'd never want to live there, even without all the sourpusses I'd see every time I visited my parents.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

60. Floriduh

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Tommy Carcetti]

66. Okay. nt

[Gidney N Cloyd]

64. Florida's long had more than just political problems.

[roamer65]

65. Eventually most Floridians will be non-Floridians.

https://www.fodors.com/news/photos/these-11-cities-are-sinking-they-could-be-gone-by-2100

Number one is Miami.

[Staph]

67. Best of luck to you, Tommy!

I'm from West Virginia, and we get the same stereotypical responses, even here on DU.

In the last year, we booted Joe Manchin's cronies from control of the WV state Democratic Party. It won't be fast, but things are going to change here. And I think, and hope, that things will change in Florida as well.

[usonian]

68. I am living in the state of Nixon, Reagan, McCarthy, Nunes and the frickin John Birch Society.

For what it's worth,

Six states are majority-minority as of July 2019: Hawaii, New Mexico, California, Texas, Nevada, and Maryland.

Florida is right behind, with less than 60% non-Hispanic white population.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majority_minority_in_the_United_States

What happened in California?
Abortion politics actually reinforces it.
https://medium.com/s/state-of-the-future/americas-paralyzed-politics-today-is-california-s-15-years-ago-5fc9c50eebc3

Why California Politics Is Always 15 Years Ahead
The Remarkably Prescient 15 Year Rule Means Trump & the National Republicans are on the Verge of a Spectacular Collapse
Peter Leyden
Oct 16, 2017
·

What do we mean by California is the future when applied to politics? Modern California politics has an uncanny knack of prefiguring what happens in the rest of America in about a 15-year timeline. In other words, what happened in California 15 years ago should be studied closely to see how it will play out in America today. And what’s happening now in California will roll out over America in the next 15 years.

California experiences the future earlier than other parts of the country. Californians invent many new technologies, adopt them early and adapt new systems around them relatively quickly. They absorb waves of immigrants at the highest numbers in the country and accommodate them into their society quicker. The state is a magnet for young people, entrepreneurs, and people who want to change the world. Much of the population is unusually open to trying new things in the economy, society, and in politics.

Prescient?

Lots more at the link.

[Skittles]

69. mmmm, no

doesn't piss me off when Texas gets slammed, suck it up!

[Tommy Carcetti]

72. I don't care when the Florida government gets slammed because they 100% deserve it.

But to write Florida off itself as completely hopeless in “Fuck Florida” posts on DU, or insinuating that all Floridians are stupid vis a vis that tired “FloriDUH” nonsense…yeah, you’re going to have problems with me if you try that.

[edisdead]

90. Why should I send my resources there?

Honestly why should I? Why should I send money, or phone bank, or write letters?

And I possibly would be buying a home there in the next several years but at this point it is a giant hell fucking no! My wife’s aging parents have a house there that we thought we would be moving into and retiring to at one point. Now…. Not a fucking chance.

I do feel bad for the people that do not support what is happening there that have to live there, but it isn’t JUST gerrymandering. Every time I go there (twice a year) I get accosted multiple times. Constantly getting screamed at and the most disgusting treatment. And this is in Venice! Yeah bad shit can happen anywhere, but it is off the damned charts in florida. I have witnessed ignorance beyond any other place I have ever been. People actively rooting against the states largest employer. Insanity.

Honestly I hope things change there. I just don’t see it happening until that state reaps exactly what the have asked for.

[mahina]

71. 100%

I know how hard it is to keep the faith. We have an incredibly anti-democratic system here (Hawaii) even though the Republicans are in a tiny minority.

We go through this whole charade of the legislature every year and at the end just for people kill whatever they want that they don’t like no matter how the votes went. No matter what they said before. Surprise surprise they killed public financing of elections that way after it passed both houses. Again. Hang in there buddy.

[edhopper]

73. So

Don't blame Florida voters who still support DeSantis by 60%.

Or just don't talk about how fucked up Florida is becoming under their very popular Governor? Or that their Legislature is over 2 to 1 Republican and the voters keep re-electing the people making the State what it is?

[ms liberty]

74. +1,000,000. I grew up in Florida, and would go back today if I could.

[RainCaster]

75. I encourage you- go for it!

GOTV

Put DeSantis in the unemployment line.

[mitch96]

76. +1, tnx from west central Florida...

[area51]

77. As a Texan, I feel your pain.

[SharonAnn]

78. As a Tennessean, I have no standing to look down on Florida.

[Martin68]

79. Florida is ground zero right now for the right's fascist takeover plans. I'm afraid the memes will

just have to keep coming until Florida elects a governor who understands democracy and free speech. I'm a Virginian, and we've taken a lot of well-deserved knocks over the years when our state government was Republican-dominated.

[ananda]

81. I can't judge. Texas is just as bad.

Last election, our ground game sucked.

[Wonder Why]

82. Where I live, we spray annually for invasive Floridians. Just pests.

I think it better that Florida be returned to Spain or the Seminole tribes. I don't think it can be saved. Even God decided He'd rather send floods there as the only alternative.

[flying_wahini]

85. Cough, cough, Texas has dealt with this for decades.

[Poiuyt]

87. Any idea what the next regime will be like after DeSantis is gone?

It's my understanding that his term will be up in the not too distant future. If republicans retain power, will they be as extreme as they are now?

[edisdead]

88. Hey Florida....

Yer sort of fucking it up for the rest of us. Or at the very least taking a big lead in directing it.

Sorry, it may not be personally your fault but YOUR governor is looking to spread his and your other politicians bullshit nationally.

[cannabis_flower]

89. Same thing about

Us Democrats in Blue Texas (Houston, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio, El Paso) are trying as hard as possible.

[allegorical oracle]

92. Thank you. But here's a warning from The Guardian:

On 1 July, a new law goes into effect that means a doctor can look a potential patient up and down, decide they are giving off homosexual vibes and refuse to treat them because interacting with gay people goes against their personal beliefs. The doctor will not face any repercussions for denying care and has no obligation to refer the patient elsewhere.

I wish I was exaggerating but I’m not. Last week, Florida’s Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, signed the Protections of Medical Conscience (pdf) bill, which lets medical professionals and health insurance companies deny patients care based on religious, moral or ethical beliefs. While the new law doesn’t allow care to be withheld because of race, colour sex, or national origin, there are no protections for sexual orientation or gender identity. The only bright spot is that hospitals must still abide by federal laws that require them to stabilise a patient with an emergency condition. In other words, you can’t let a patient die just because they’re wearing a Drag Race T-shirt.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/are-you-a-doctor-who-hates-treating-gay-people-come-to-florida-where-ron-desantis-has-legalised-bigotry/ar-AA1bgkVI?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c89765ef8d3a4b52be38f8cb67d16ca3&ei=104