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Raven

(13,909 posts)
Fri May 12, 2023, 10:18 AM May 2023

I think Trump has decided that if he is going to go down, he's

going to go down in flames. Like a suicide bomber. He'll take the Country, his family, his friends and his enemies with him. Trump was pushing the line the other night on CNN. The admissions of guilt that he made were meant to be a challenge to see how far he could go. If he is stopped, he will burn it all down.

Just my opinion for what it's worth.

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I think Trump has decided that if he is going to go down, he's (Original Post) Raven May 2023 OP
Of course Trump is trying to burn it all down because he is getting caught out on some of his crimes Irish_Dem May 2023 #1
I just wish he'd stroke out and croak malaise May 2023 #2
✔️+ live love laugh May 2023 #3
But then sadly he couldn't take his friends and family with him. n/t Xavier Breath May 2023 #4
He will implicate them in his crimes. Raven May 2023 #15
1000%!!! Golden Raisin May 2023 #8
👆 Rebl2 May 2023 #13
After having served a few years in prison as a precursor to hell. MLAA May 2023 #24
Think Mary Trump agrees. Enoki33 May 2023 #5
This -- Mary Trump said this a while ago. fierywoman May 2023 #7
Was thinking the same.I remember that too. Amaryllis May 2023 #26
January 6th should have been the end of him - and the GOP. LeftinOH May 2023 #6
the helicopter from WH to Mar-A-Lago GenXer47 May 2023 #10
The old GOP is long gone, of course. This is now "The American Terrorist Party." RKP5637 May 2023 #12
He's a narcissistic sociopath. He does not give a fuck about anyone, anything. n/t RKP5637 May 2023 #9
Exactly Farmer-Rick May 2023 #34
I hope he takes the GOP down moose65 May 2023 #11
I, for one, certainly like your thinking. Why not? It could happen. n/t SheilaAnn May 2023 #16
+1. A distinct possibility dalton99a May 2023 #18
This is a fact. He is going to burn the entire place to the ground. onecaliberal May 2023 #14
GOP is stuck with him 617Blue May 2023 #17
Wait...Trump has friends? nt doubleplusgood May 2023 #19
It's that or prison C_U_L8R May 2023 #20
And with nothing to lose, he is going all out. wnylib May 2023 #28
Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange, RAPIST TRAITOR**. niyad May 2023 #21
Right!!! Traildogbob May 2023 #22
He'll burn down what he can, which is the RNC, NRA, complicit congresspersons, Macron, CEOs with wiggs May 2023 #23
Absolutely NowISeetheLight May 2023 #25
I believe that's been the fear keeping anyone from actually coming forward. Lettuce Be May 2023 #27
I think...and I may be wrong... MiHale May 2023 #29
Another page from hitler's playbook: scorched earth Artcatt May 2023 #30
I think he'd do that anyway, and did so from 2017-2021 NullTuples May 2023 #31
I wish he would just take down GOP and his supporters IronLionZion May 2023 #32
I agree very likely. Joinfortmill May 2023 #33
He can only burn his own house down. tinrobot May 2023 #35
He wants to be a dictator. GoodRaisin May 2023 #36
I think he was strung out on drugs and then thinks he is invincible and gets even higher Bev54 May 2023 #37

Irish_Dem

(48,117 posts)
1. Of course Trump is trying to burn it all down because he is getting caught out on some of his crimes
Fri May 12, 2023, 10:20 AM
May 2023

He is like Putin who will destroy Ukraine if he cannot have it.

MLAA

(17,375 posts)
24. After having served a few years in prison as a precursor to hell.
Fri May 12, 2023, 12:04 PM
May 2023

Makes me almost wish I believed there really was a hell after life

LeftinOH

(5,359 posts)
6. January 6th should have been the end of him - and the GOP.
Fri May 12, 2023, 10:26 AM
May 2023

The fact that it was not the end of them is, and will always be, horrifying.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
12. The old GOP is long gone, of course. This is now "The American Terrorist Party."
Fri May 12, 2023, 10:35 AM
May 2023

Anyone still voting for republicans is really deluded, unless of course they believe in this new GOP.

Farmer-Rick

(10,242 posts)
34. Exactly
Fri May 12, 2023, 12:54 PM
May 2023

He has no plans to burn anything down.

He will just rage, abuse, con and lie his way into burning down the house. Because other people are not real to him. Only his little baby feelings matter. And most of that feeling is all about hate, revenge and hurting others.

I wish someone would ask him what does love feel like and watch him stumble and spit.

moose65

(3,169 posts)
11. I hope he takes the GOP down
Fri May 12, 2023, 10:34 AM
May 2023

It has long been my belief that if Trump doesn't get the nomination, or if he gets a ton of pushback from the Republicans, that he would gladly start his own Trump Party (you know the asshole would name it after himself) and he would encourage his true disciples to abandon the Republican Party. Trump has no loyalty to anything except himself.

He would see Republican opposition as the ultimate betrayal and he would use his loud mouth to disparage and demean Republicans left and right, while he would no doubt leave the Dems alone. It would lead to the biggest Democratic election victory since Johnson in 64, and we could say Hello to the House majority and 60+ Dem Senators. It would be a dream come true

wnylib

(21,798 posts)
28. And with nothing to lose, he is going all out.
Fri May 12, 2023, 12:17 PM
May 2023

First destroy the existing system in order to avoid legal consequences for all his actions.

Then once the system is destroyed, set himself up as the leader of the "new sysyem" - the Trump brand of fascism.

He is an all or nothing person. Does not compromise. Does not accept losses. Must always be #1, the winner. He must have everything his way. And he knows how to tap into the psychology of other losers to gain their following.

We criticize and even laugh at the Trump followers and inner circle because they are so incompetent, and because their personal and work histories show how unqualified they are for their positions in government.

But, do not underestimate them. They are losers with big egos. When they can't satisfy their egos under a democratic (small d) system of governance, they support its destruction and a new system with rules that reward people like them. That's what happened in Nazi Germany. People who wanted instant success without earning it through education, training, or work experience signed on with the Nazis because all that was required was total loyalty. SS officers loved the authority of the uniform, the fear that the sight of them instilled in people, and the opportunities to express their own "superiority" over others in sadistically cruel ways.

When enough of those thugs group together to support a fascist takeover, the change in rules benefits them and hurts everyone else.





Traildogbob

(8,900 posts)
22. Right!!!
Fri May 12, 2023, 11:50 AM
May 2023

He actually “swore on his children’s lives” on national TV that he did not know E Jean. Shows how much he gives a shit about their lives. Do we think he gives a fuck about the rest of us? I think not.?

wiggs

(7,821 posts)
23. He'll burn down what he can, which is the RNC, NRA, complicit congresspersons, Macron, CEOs with
Fri May 12, 2023, 12:03 PM
May 2023

shady past, foreign nations with secrets, etc.

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
25. Absolutely
Fri May 12, 2023, 12:04 PM
May 2023

From the Steve Bannon playback. To hell with the collateral damage. Both Trump and Bannon and these other MAGAts are the real enemies of America.

Lettuce Be

(2,337 posts)
27. I believe that's been the fear keeping anyone from actually coming forward.
Fri May 12, 2023, 12:08 PM
May 2023

The entire house of cards will come tumbling down. This is a when, not if, situation.

MiHale

(9,806 posts)
29. I think...and I may be wrong...
Fri May 12, 2023, 12:24 PM
May 2023

But I think that if he gets too crazy before the election he may have an unfortunate accident. There are those that don’t want him but want a republican party.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
31. I think he'd do that anyway, and did so from 2017-2021
Fri May 12, 2023, 12:46 PM
May 2023

But I disagree about him even being able to conceive that he's going down. He is a true narcissist, on top of being a spoiled, privileged, bigoted brat. He's had plenty of minor rulings against him before. So long as his freedom is not curtailed, I don't think he sees it as anyone having real power over him.

tinrobot

(10,927 posts)
35. He can only burn his own house down.
Fri May 12, 2023, 12:58 PM
May 2023

In other words, he'll destroy the GOP, his enablers, his family, and his supporters.

He may also drop whatever dirt he has on his opponents.

But he's not taking down the country.

Bev54

(10,093 posts)
37. I think he was strung out on drugs and then thinks he is invincible and gets even higher
Fri May 12, 2023, 01:03 PM
May 2023

when a small crowd applauds and are in on the party. He is high on himself and the only one he took down on Wed was himself with so many admissions of criminality, against what his lawyers are saying, that Jack Smith cannot help but bring into his case. If he takes down his family and the rest of the republican party it will be by happenstance, because he really is not smart.

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