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debm55

(25,783 posts)
Sun May 7, 2023, 08:24 PM May 2023

Did the officials in Allen, TX give an official briefing today? Or was none given? I have

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gotten a lot of information from DU and the links that posters have used. There doesn't seem to be anything from the police or mayor from Allen. It doesn't seem right that the media and internet are giving out the information and not the people in charge. Thanks

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Did the officials in Allen, TX give an official briefing today? Or was none given? I have (Original Post) debm55 May 2023 OP
It tells you what is up RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #1
I know it tells me what is up, but I was surprised that there was no official updates--information debm55 May 2023 #2
It means they can't blame it on Trans People or immigrants RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #3
Something doesn't seem right. Even a hospital briefing was not given on the conditions of those in debm55 May 2023 #8
At the Command of Abbott RegulatedCapitalistD May 2023 #9
It sure seems like it. debm55 May 2023 #10
I agree. These are normal actions from community. Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #11
Something is off--when the only news is coming from secondary sources and not the town officials. We debm55 May 2023 #13
from WaPo orthoclad May 2023 #4
Thank you. There are various sources, but there were none that I know of from the people in charge debm55 May 2023 #5
Trump's Proud Boys Army wear RWDS patches. blm May 2023 #6
Thank you, blm. That is information I didn't know. It seems odd that all officials have kept quiet debm55 May 2023 #7
Great post. raccoon May 2023 #28
from what I've read, orthoclad May 2023 #30
Allen Premium Outlet and Allen TX trending on twitter Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #12
It looks like a college stadium. debm55 May 2023 #14
Ya just an aside from poster. Live in TX but was Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #15
Thank you. I guess I want a primary source to come out and be honest. Secondary sources are good. debm55 May 2023 #16
100% agree Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #24
Of course the right-wing terror aspect orthoclad May 2023 #31
Exactly! Thanks for finding. 7wo7rees May 2023 #21
Important to note, it has been trending steadily blue as immigrants JCMach1 May 2023 #23
Allen HS is one of the biggest in the state, 10,000+ kiddos. JCMach1 May 2023 #22
Of course it is when they can't afford decent policing services or to split up a highschool uponit7771 May 2023 #25
Their police are just fine and they chose to keep the huge school JCMach1 May 2023 #35
" without the budget and resources to handle an incident like the " doesn't sound fine for the task uponit7771 May 2023 #37
Now think about any medium sized town anywhere in the country JCMach1 May 2023 #39
There were two vigils held in Allen today blogslug May 2023 #17
Thank you, for your post and get a good night sleep. debm55 May 2023 #18
thank you but this is a different kind of tired blogslug May 2023 #19
I am sorry to hear that. Hugs to you my friend. I'm taking my meds that MTG said will make me a debm55 May 2023 #20
Joe Scarborough Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #26
Meanwhile my kiddo is home today due to Social Media threats to local JCMach1 May 2023 #36
City of Allen website Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #27
Thank you, However there was none yesterday. debm55 May 2023 #29
Police did Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #32
Thank you. I guess I was looking for it to be broadcast. I'm glad that they had a statement to put debm55 May 2023 #33
Totally hear ya! Obviously a conscious effort to quiet this down ! nt Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #34
Hmmm Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #38

debm55

(25,783 posts)
2. I know it tells me what is up, but I was surprised that there was no official updates--information
Sun May 7, 2023, 08:32 PM
May 2023

on killer, conditions of people in the hospital, etc. In most situations, a daily briefing is given. Thanks

debm55

(25,783 posts)
8. Something doesn't seem right. Even a hospital briefing was not given on the conditions of those in
Sun May 7, 2023, 10:20 PM
May 2023

critical conditon. All information is being given out by the press and social media. Why no Official briefing by the police chief, the mayor, etc.?

debm55

(25,783 posts)
13. Something is off--when the only news is coming from secondary sources and not the town officials. We
Sun May 7, 2023, 10:42 PM
May 2023

had a shooting in the Shadyside area of Pittsburgh a few years back. It was at a synagogue. Everday we got live updates on the the shooter, those killed and wounded. Not only from the press, but the Mayor and Police department.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
4. from WaPo
Sun May 7, 2023, 08:43 PM
May 2023
Mauricio Garcia, a Dallas resident in his early 30s, had multiple weapons on him and five additional guns in his car nearby, said people familiar with the investigation who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the ongoing probe.

Authorities have not released a motive, but a patch on his chest said “RWDS,” an acronym that stands for Right Wing Death Squad, according to people familiar with the investigation. The phrase is popular among right-wing extremists, neo-Nazis and white supremacists, they said, and while there is still a great deal of evidence to analyze, and authorities have not reached any conclusions yet, investigators are approaching the shooting as a possible hate crime.

Witnesses said the gunman’s tactical vest was also packed with ammunition clips, indicating just how much carnage he hoped to inflict at one of the most common places for Americans to gather on the weekends — a shopping mall. Panicked video from the scene showed adults running as fast as they could to get away from the crack of rifle fire, their shopping bags flapping around them as they sprinted across the parking lot. One young boy in a red t-shirt ran away while screaming “run,” a look of terror on his face.

emphasis mine
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/07/texas-allen-outlets-shooting-dallas/

It was sheer luck that a cop who was actually willing to attack the shooter was on the scene. There could have been much more damage.

My take? TX is treading lightly and moving slowly because this was rght-wing terror. Some folks here suspect they're busy scrubbing social media posts.

debm55

(25,783 posts)
5. Thank you. There are various sources, but there were none that I know of from the people in charge
Sun May 7, 2023, 08:46 PM
May 2023

in Allen . Thank you.

blm

(113,136 posts)
6. Trump's Proud Boys Army wear RWDS patches.
Sun May 7, 2023, 08:46 PM
May 2023

No wonder Republican officials want to move onto God’s will and past Proud Boys patch.

debm55

(25,783 posts)
7. Thank you, blm. That is information I didn't know. It seems odd that all officials have kept quiet
Sun May 7, 2023, 08:51 PM
May 2023

today, Seems odd.

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
30. from what I've read,
Mon May 8, 2023, 09:14 AM
May 2023

one of the dead was a private security on duty at the mall. Sounds like he tried to attack the shooter first, and died. If so, he needs recognition. Better than the legions of cops at Uvalde.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. Ya just an aside from poster. Live in TX but was
Sun May 7, 2023, 10:51 PM
May 2023

out of town all weekend so just catching up. It is so right of you to be curious about this ! Such a common occurrence now, the R led places will start pulling a trump and hiding it from press ( if its not an illegal).

debm55

(25,783 posts)
16. Thank you. I guess I want a primary source to come out and be honest. Secondary sources are good.
Sun May 7, 2023, 10:54 PM
May 2023

but this leaves me wondering why things are being handled the way they are.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
21. Exactly! Thanks for finding.
Mon May 8, 2023, 01:15 AM
May 2023

This is Abbott, the Paxton's (it is his wife, Angela's district, State Senator), the Patrick's. This part of Collin County very right wing. Mega churches.

I also believe the community/county is reeling today. "This did not happen, not here....."
There is only so much you can get out on a Sunday. Coverage has been ok on MSNBC.

The details coming out on shooter are stunning and I believe that is part of everything. This has the potential to really blow up the Republicans messaging in Texas on gun legislation.

Just my very humble opinion.
(I do have some perspective, have shopped there, was here long before the outlet was, I know the area just a little. Only 14 miles away and I and many I know are in a bit of shock)

Ms7wo7rees

JCMach1

(27,591 posts)
23. Important to note, it has been trending steadily blue as immigrants
Mon May 8, 2023, 03:16 AM
May 2023

and blue state transplants have moved in.

It is probably important to point out the Allen Outlets are extremely popular in general, and frequented by a lot of our immigrants and visitors to DFW. I am sure this is why it was targeted.

I live about 3 miles from the Outlets... Where we usually go to shop for my 12yos Nikes and Adidas. All the more horrifying... On any given day, it could have been you there with your Kenyan American wife and son.

JCMach1

(27,591 posts)
22. Allen HS is one of the biggest in the state, 10,000+ kiddos.
Mon May 8, 2023, 03:09 AM
May 2023

Kyler Murray, is an alumni (NFL QB).

Considering size of school, stadium is not out of line.

JCMach1

(27,591 posts)
35. Their police are just fine and they chose to keep the huge school
Mon May 8, 2023, 11:42 AM
May 2023

Allen is a relatively affluent suburb of DFW. Money is not an issue.

I work with Allen officers alot in my job.

uponit7771

(90,371 posts)
37. " without the budget and resources to handle an incident like the " doesn't sound fine for the task
Mon May 8, 2023, 02:26 PM
May 2023

JCMach1

(27,591 posts)
39. Now think about any medium sized town anywhere in the country
Mon May 8, 2023, 03:24 PM
May 2023

Handling a mass shooting... Especially a very low crime area.

Literally, the area we are talking about has the lowest crime rates in the nation.

Local cities here tend to have a cooperative model for black swan response. Plano, McKinney and other PDs I am sure also responded to the event. Victims were sent to McKinney Medical Center, which is the dedicated regional trauma center and just a few miles from the shooting site.

blogslug

(38,023 posts)
17. There were two vigils held in Allen today
Sun May 7, 2023, 10:57 PM
May 2023

One was held at a church that had previously hosted a showing of that crummy 2000 Mules movie. The other was an interfaith vigil held on the other side of town. Both vigils are covered by journalist Steven Monacelli in this twitter thread:




I apologize but I'm not going to copy/paste the text of the thread for y'all tonight. I'm so tired.

debm55

(25,783 posts)
20. I am sorry to hear that. Hugs to you my friend. I'm taking my meds that MTG said will make me a
Sun May 7, 2023, 11:24 PM
May 2023

killer. Wrong.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
27. City of Allen website
Mon May 8, 2023, 09:05 AM
May 2023
https://www.cityofallen.org/AlertCenter.aspx?AID=Active-investigation-at-Allen-Premium-Ou-101

LATEST UPDATE:
May 6, 2023 10:11 PM
Allen Police Department is heartbroken to confirm nine casualties from today's shooting at Allen Premium Outlets. Seven individuals, including the suspect, were deceased at the scene. Nine were transported to regional hospitals where two later succumbed to their injuries. As of Saturday evening, three victims were in critical condition and four were stable.

Anyone who witnessed the incident or has video footage should contact 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324).

Website also includes statement from mayor.

debm55

(25,783 posts)
33. Thank you. I guess I was looking for it to be broadcast. I'm glad that they had a statement to put
Mon May 8, 2023, 09:49 AM
May 2023

out. Thanks for all your hard work making this clear for me.

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