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(114,176 posts)CrispyQ
(36,610 posts)We need to brand him with that.
lambchopp59
(2,809 posts)Beachnutt
(7,374 posts)Beartracks
(12,854 posts)gab13by13
(21,569 posts)I believe that Putin groomed Trump to do exactly as he did.
Think of the harm Trump did in 4 years to our democracy. If Trump had won another 4 years he would be our dictator.
Trump winning would not have happened without Putins help, and the insurrection is ongoing.
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ShazzieB
(16,713 posts)I'm not sure if that's what you meant, but that's what the term "grooming" implies to me.
The election denial was 100% in keeping with Trump's malignant narcissism. I can see Putin encouraging him, but I'd be very surprised if the idea didnt originate with Trump himself. (Again, if that's what you meant.)
Martin Eden
(12,894 posts)Donnie's ego and capacity for lies are so yuge that all the J6 shit would have hit the fan with or without Putin.
Of course, Trump probably wouldn't have been president in the first place without Vlad the Installer.
BComplex
(8,102 posts)If he makes it to the finals.
Johonny
(21,014 posts)The plan is/was and will always be to fund raise off the suckers. His running for president is the only thing he's ever done outside that TV show (where everything was done for him) that actually made money instead of debt. He's raking it in and continues to rake it in from these suckers.
The fact that he's been drawn into the delusion or not, is always been open to debate. He is at heart a con-artist and an egomaniac.
agingdem
(7,888 posts)Last edited Wed Apr 19, 2023, 03:34 PM - Edit history (1)
Trump's callous disregard for human life, downplaying a global pandemic/shoving aside career epidemiologists, scientists, doctors in favor of quack and shamans/300,000 covid deaths/Trump fatigue...
months before the election Barr was busy trashing voting by mail and early voting, Trump was screaming rigged election/never concede at his Nazi rallies, DeJoy was slowing down the mail, and election officials were eliminating in-person voting locations...
on the night of the election, when the early count temporarily favored Trump, he declared victory and assumed the vote count would stop..except the vote count continued and Biden won..here's the rub...Trump's rigged election did not stayed rigged, and in Trump's conniving conman toxic-dump of a mind that meant Biden and the Democrats "outrigged" Trump's rigged election..and that's why Trump will never accept he lost...
Cherokee100
(270 posts)His niece Mary, nailed it. He destroys everything he touches.
housecat
(3,121 posts)LittleGirl
(8,292 posts)The day he left office. Do not ever leave that out!
thesquanderer
(12,008 posts)...since they mostly happened before he lost.
jmowreader
(50,614 posts)...because he made more money by letting people die than by saving them.
You know - you just KNOW - that if the orange prick would have told his followers, "you know how you guys dream of SHTF? It's happened. Go to ground for a couple weeks, wear N95 masks, get vaccinated when we have a vaccine, and we'll defeat this bastard," his minions would have done it. The problem is, he couldn't have made huge profits by selling America's PPE overseas.
Paladin
(28,297 posts)judesedit
(4,449 posts)True Blue American
(18,001 posts)judesedit
(4,449 posts)What a different world we would live in now if Gore and Hillary, who were the rightful winners, had taken office. The damage to this country and others done by GWB and TFG will take years to remedy if ever. So sad. Now we must hope, pray, work and vote our tails off, to prevent another despot from getting in there again.
🤞🙏
DENVERPOPS
(8,954 posts)There is a giant Right Wing Conspiracy.......Gore won, but USSC illegally intervened and we got Bush, Kerrey won, But EIS? and Chad Voting machines threw it once again to Bush, Then Putin and The Republican Party, along with that asshole at the FBI Comey? Using old Hillary's Emails threw the election to Trump.....
It would have been, a much better world........
judesedit
(4,449 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,954 posts)in 2020 and 2024 elections..........After what we have weathered since especially 2016,, I couldn't begin to imagine or predict what will take place in the next 1 and 1/2 years.........
OMGWTF
(4,007 posts)judesedit
(4,449 posts)I wish dems would get down and dirty. We must stop these KKK Nazi's. They're doing everything in their power to rig the next election for themselves.
LetMyPeopleVote
(146,202 posts)VGNonly
(7,537 posts)It worked for Trump.
ProfessorGAC
(65,562 posts)While this settlement is not the trivial amount some suggest, it's not enough to bankrupt them.
They made about $2.2 billion in net income, EBITA, (Earnings Before Interest Taxes & Amortization).
This settlement is over 1/3rd of last years net income.
That's big, but still leaves them $1.4 billion in net income.
That's hardly bankruptcy territory.
Scalded Nun
(1,246 posts)Always has, always will.
Turbineguy
(37,442 posts)BonnieJW
(2,283 posts)Nt
ffr
(22,684 posts)A drop in the bucket compared to the trillions of dollars they shift towards the wealthy. Liberals are out celebrating this victory against the right-wing lie machine, but if you look at it from their perspective, it wasn't even a billion dollars and they still get to keep their audience of low-information type drones captivated with their ongoing propaganda lie machine.
This won't stop them! This just empowers them to get meaner, see where they slipped up and rig the system, closing the loopholes. Fox Noise and the QOP are snickering at us this morning. It was a worthwhile investment on their behalf, one that pays huge dividends.
louis-t
(23,322 posts)when the Smartmatic case is decided.
Paper Roses
(7,475 posts)Millions for lawyers, millions in court costs and costs relating to the investigating of this crook and his minions. All out of our collective pockets!
plus: cost of aspirin and Pepto-Bismol for our headaches and stomach troubles as we read more about this jerk.
pandr32
(11,654 posts)I don't think it is "all because one man couldn't admit he lost" though. That one man felt entitled to our nation in the first place. He has always gotten whatever he wanted one way or another and he has minions (legal, criminal, financial) who are all tied to him, his family and his endeavors who do all the heavy lifting. They make his whims real. He had no intention of leaving the office of POTUS once he added it to his crown jewels and would have stripped it of all value, sold it to foreign interests or oligarchs, and become a despot who would revel in his titles and power. To hell with all the people he used in his day to day ego fests. MAGAts are all schmucks to him.
FakeNoose
(33,002 posts)And let's not forget that Chump knew he was going to lose the 2020 election well before it took place. Many of the "Stop the Steal" preparations were made in the summer before the election. Why? Because he knew he would lose to Joe Biden in November 2020.
For us it was like watching a slow-motion train wreck, with disastrous consequences in all directions.
jmowreader
(50,614 posts)His underlings all knew.
Now let's look at Worthless Fuck's track record. You know how back in the day kings would execute their underlings for bringing them news he didn't want to hear? If Trump could get away with he'd be a head-chopping motherfucker. We don't do that shit anymore, so Trump does the next best thing - he'll ruin your life just on general principles. You lose your job, you're shunned by the rest of the civilized world and you wind up on OANN with a quarter-inch-thick coat of house paint on your face because you can't get any other work. Naturally, you want to avoid that at all costs if for no other reason than house paint isn't comfortable to wear. So you walk on tippy-toes around Trump so he doesn't fire you by tweet in the middle of the night.
I really don't think anyone had the courage to tell him, "sir, you need to prepare for your post-presidency life."
republianmushroom
(13,996 posts)usaf-vet
(6,261 posts)....but left the evil FOX alive and able to start a new set of lies.
I'll bet the first one is that THEY (FOX) won the suit and did nothing wrong.
Nothing will change for folks like us. FOX will still bend the truths to continue to tear down our democracy brick by brick.
TwilightZone
(25,550 posts)The expectations some had about the results of a trial that was never going to happen are incredibly unrealistic.
Their viewers don't care and the rest of us already know they lie.
The intent of the suit was to recover damages for loss of reputation. Dominion clearly feels that that was accomplished.
Expecting them to ignore a massive settlement (nearly 10 times their current value, if reports are accurate) that accomplished exactly what they wanted it to accomplish just to appease the public was similarly unrealistic.
usaf-vet
(6,261 posts)mwb970
(11,380 posts)loquaciouslimey
(3 posts)"All because one man was making too much money by pretending he won!"
mopinko
(70,437 posts)welcome to du.
gopiscrap
(23,769 posts)iemanja
(53,137 posts)Trump could have been muttering by himself in the corner. It was Fox that chose to broadcast and double-down on his false claims.
Hope22
(1,916 posts)Fox lied for their own gain. The liar in chief was good for their business. The same way they will harness themselves to the next piece of dirt to fill the ballot.
PJMcK
(22,102 posts)It's not that Trump is so stupid and insecure that he couldn't accept defeat. It's that his supporters are just as stupid and ignorant as is Trump. They believed his lies even though there is ZERO evidence of fraud or miscalculation in the 2020 election.
If they weren't foolish followers, Fox's money, the convicted insurrectionists and all the rest wouldn't have been wasted. It's truly pathetic.
At least 1/3 of Americans are ignoramuses. They're also filled with hatred and bigotries.
Not to go off-topic but this stupidity reminds me of the believers of a flat Earth or that the Moon landings were faked. Those people are irredeemably ignorant and uneducated.
Bengus81
(6,944 posts)Never implicated Trump OR his family but got a "deal" of only five months (served four) for decades of cheating and fraud.
canetoad
(17,225 posts)I'm fascinated by the power, the hold that one man has over a large nation. How one disordered individual can demand the thoughts and attention of millions whether they be his supporters or not.
Simply, the sooner he kicks the bucket, the better for the USA.
RussBLib
(9,067 posts)And I mean the uneducated/hate-filled/bigots. They seem to have a hard time distinguishing truth from lies, and Trump simply appeals to their worse natures.
As for the media, if Trump didn't have such a long history in the public eye, I don't think there'd be as much focus on him. I think they are also fascinated by his ability to lie his ass off and not lose any power in the GOP camp.
As for other Republicans, Trump has gathered a group of wild-eyed rabid followers who will threaten anyone who disagrees with Trump. They are scared shitless of his followers, which speaks very poorly of their character.
Hi canetoad!
ecstatic
(32,829 posts)and refused to hold him accountable, including fox "news" and all the rethug senators and representatives who coddled trump and repeated his lies.
drmeow
(5,047 posts)and the GOP off the hook. It wasn't merely because Trump could not admit he lost. It should be "All because one (minority) group of Americans simply could not accept a Black man or a White woman as President in a system which was designed to give people who saw Black people and White women as lesser beings."
Yes, the catalyst was Trump losing the election but the fundamental core that made people willing to even vote for him in the primary was always there.
Rhiannon12866
(207,429 posts)NullTuples
(6,017 posts)calimary
(81,644 posts)sellitman
(11,613 posts)Immediately there should be a huge picture color & glossy of the orange child.
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