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edhopper

(33,666 posts)
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 10:48 AM Apr 2023

The "trans issue" and the GOP

they lost their culture fight against Gay marriage, which now has a 70% approval, so they are going after a smaller, weaker minority as their boogie man to keep their idiot cult foaming at the mouth.
It's cynical and cruel and unquestionably wrong.

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Model35mech

(1,596 posts)
1. The thrill in life for Republicans is doing something 'naughty'
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 11:04 AM
Apr 2023

They absolutely will fight against normalization of all manner of human expressions of life that they more than likely participate in at typically American rates.

LostOne4Ever

(9,296 posts)
3. They lost this issue too
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 12:14 PM
Apr 2023
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/new-poll-shows-americans-overwhelmingly-oppose-anti-transgender-laws

Fewer than three in ten people support state laws that prohibit gender-affirming care for minors or that criminalize providers of that care. Among Republicans, 26 percent support bills that prohibit this medical care, while 70 percent are opposed. That's on par with where Democrats landed on the issue, with 26 percent in favor of such bills and 69 percent opposed.



Republican support for criminalizing providing gender transition-related care for minors was markedly higher, at 38 percent, while only 19 percent of Democrats were in agreement. Forty-two percent of people who supported former President Donald Trump in the 2020 election said they support criminalization.




They just don’t care as they have the Courts on their side, and Gerrymandered the country enough they won’t have to ever face consequences.

Zambero

(8,979 posts)
4. And as more and more folks become aware
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 12:23 PM
Apr 2023

of a family member, friend, store clerk, or co-worker who happen to be transgender, the cynically crafted "boogieman" factors will continue to diminish. Culture war advantages as perceived by the right have a tendency to become problematic for them with the passage of time. Witness the abortion trap they've set up for themselves and hastily stepped into. By targeting women, immigrants, blacks, and LGBTQ, to name but a few, they inevitably sabotage their own agendas.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
10. The number of transgender folks is much lower than gay, black , immigrant. or any other group you
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 01:01 PM
Apr 2023

might choose.

So the likelihood of "more and more" folks becoming aware is not at all likely simply by "knowing" someone. Pretty much everyone learned that they knew a gay person over the last 40 years, but that's not the case for trans folk.

I knew several men who transitioned back in the 80s, early 90s...long before it was on most people's radar. I lived in Key West, where nothing was unusual to any of us.

Now that I'm back on the mainland, though I see gay folks all the time, even in my little red town, trans folks are few and far between.

So "folks becoming aware" is probably not going to happen the way you might hope. Just an observation.

Zambero

(8,979 posts)
14. Get this
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 02:04 PM
Apr 2023

Over the course of the past two years, my next-door neighbors In Boise Idaho have displayed a Trans pride flag in support of their transgender daughter. The political and cultural environment here is problematic for many marginalized groups and individuals, even though Boise is considered "liberal" by Idaho standards. As you noted, the numbers of affected individuals are not as great, although that might be a secondary consideration. There are still a great many folks that do not take kindly to singling out for persecution individuals on the basis of who they are. The two black Tennessee legislators who were summarily removed from office are but one example, and the backlash against the perpetrators for their actions will not be forgotten soon.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
16. Much of what you say is true, and I certainly cannot argue with your anecdotal neighbor story.
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 02:32 PM
Apr 2023

But that doesn't change what I said, which is that MOST people will not know a trans person as they might know a gay person.

I wasn't aware we were discussing persecution in general, Tennessee lawmakers specifically, or any of the rest of what you said.

But you knew that.

hunter

(38,350 posts)
5. About a third of our nation is deplorable.
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 12:25 PM
Apr 2023

Religious freaks, abusers, sociopaths, fascists, etc..

If our political and economic systems weren't so damned corrupt they wouldn't have any political power at all.

edhopper

(33,666 posts)
9. And the problem
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 12:57 PM
Apr 2023

is the part of the other 2/3 who vote with them without thought to the consequences.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
7. I do love when people call the boogeyman, the "boogie man" because I imagine a disco character.
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 12:53 PM
Apr 2023


Not nearly so scary as the boogeyman of my childhood.

Shermann

(7,488 posts)
13. Politicians love manufactured causes
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 01:26 PM
Apr 2023

If you didn't even know there was a problem in the first place, how can you then determine if it was actually fixed?

Politicians who are willing to put in the hard work will focus on some of the hard problems.

Midnight Writer

(21,853 posts)
15. They haven't given up on their fight against Gay marriage, just as they never gave up on abortion.
Sun Apr 16, 2023, 02:19 PM
Apr 2023

It can happen here.

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