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maxrandb

(15,439 posts)
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 09:52 AM Apr 2023

The shitshow in Tennessee belongs, 1000%, to the Roberts Supreme Court of the Confederate States

They have systematically and surgically decimated the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights.

This was their plan all along. It's not a bug, it's a feature.

You could not get to a 75-25 R/D Legislature in Tennessee without the Supreme Court of the Confederate States greenlighting extreme partisan gerrymandering.

You could not get to Democrats needing to win Wisconsin by 12% just to get a 50-50 Wisconsin State Legislatures, without the Supreme Court of the Confederate States greenlighting extreme partisan gerrymandering.

You could not get to the State of Ohio having Retrumplicans winning 50.1% of the statewide vote, but getting 66% of the representation, without the Supreme Court of the Confederate States greenlighting extreme partisan gerrymandering.

Without the Citizens United ruling of the Supreme Court of the Confederate States, RETRUMPLICANS wouldn't have 2 dimes to rub together for their extremist agenda.

One of the first things the Nazis did was takeover the courts.

Bibi knows that the only way to execute his authoritarian aims in Israel, is to corrupt the rule of law.

The fascists in America took our courts without firing a single shot.

So, yeah! This entire shitshow belongs to John Roberts and his majority Confederate States Justices.

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The shitshow in Tennessee belongs, 1000%, to the Roberts Supreme Court of the Confederate States (Original Post) maxrandb Apr 2023 OP
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Apr 2023 #1
Great post. Baitball Blogger Apr 2023 #2
ABSOLUTELY! B.See Apr 2023 #51
Yes, this was their plan all along! Hopefully this fact will kept in the spottlight. Kittycatkat Apr 2023 #3
Started with that rancid bag of shit and polling place "overseer" Renqhuist and Carlitos Brigante Apr 2023 #4
Yep. As designed. Working perfectly to keep white wealthy conservative minority rule Freethinker65 Apr 2023 #5
K&R. Excellent. The Supreme Disenfranchisers. bronxiteforever Apr 2023 #6
As horrific as Dredd Scott was, I think the Roberts court will go down Marius25 Apr 2023 #7
I totally agree, Marius. brer cat Apr 2023 #8
I also agree. Grumpy Old Guy Apr 2023 #14
Plus the Federalist Society, Koch network, ALEC, Heritage Foundation, Mercers, ... rubbersole Apr 2023 #16
Yes! Grumpy Old Guy Apr 2023 #33
Either that or history itself will go down. 👎 dchill Apr 2023 #25
The California Assembly is 77.5% Democratic Sympthsical Apr 2023 #9
California's districts leftieNanner Apr 2023 #21
Well then Tennessee has some very incompetent partisans Sympthsical Apr 2023 #22
True Zeitghost Apr 2023 #42
Point taken, but. I have seen R control of CA in my lifetime. The minority has never been..... mjvpi Apr 2023 #26
Why are you attempting to "both-siderize" this? maxrandb Apr 2023 #31
+1 Spazito Apr 2023 #39
Sadly, too many people on our side didn't like Hillary. Kaleva Apr 2023 #10
You forgot inthewind21 Apr 2023 #11
Well thought out Farmer-Rick Apr 2023 #12
You are right the Roberts Court in history will be remember as the "Shitshow" Court. usaf-vet Apr 2023 #13
As a veteran Traildogbob Apr 2023 #15
+1000 mountain grammy Apr 2023 #19
The two biggest problems in America are the Supreme Court and gerrymandering world wide wally Apr 2023 #17
Bingo inthewind21 Apr 2023 #18
Fix campaign finance and democracy will deal with both of those issues. mjvpi Apr 2023 #27
Agree! True Blue American Apr 2023 #44
K & R mountain grammy Apr 2023 #20
Don't forget the Scumbag BINO Justice housecat Apr 2023 #23
The Supralegal Extreme Court of the Untied States. dchill Apr 2023 #24
So it belongs to Bush and Rove and their ilk. LisaM Apr 2023 #28
+1000 n/t MarcA Apr 2023 #35
Roberts helped to engineer W's "win" in 2000, madamesilverspurs Apr 2023 #43
I actually forgot that Gore was once elected in this state that now has a bigoted, RW legislature. Ligyron Apr 2023 #48
+1,000,000,000 happy feet Apr 2023 #29
Not sure where you're getting the "confederate" nonsense. BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #30
You don't have to live in the south to have the ideology of the confederacy maxrandb Apr 2023 #37
Tell us you hate the south without telling us you hate the south. BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #46
Tell us you can't read the Electoral Maps of the past 50 years maxrandb Apr 2023 #47
Not just the Citizens United decision. Grins Apr 2023 #32
Gerrymandering is a big problem, no doubt. BlueCheeseAgain Apr 2023 #34
Hawaii, Rhode Island and Massachusetts maxrandb Apr 2023 #45
Its simple Cherokee100 Apr 2023 #36
also, This entire shitshow belongs to John Roberts - Citizen's United OhNo-Really Apr 2023 #38
I thought John Roberts would be better. I was dead leftyladyfrommo Apr 2023 #49
John Crow krkaufman Apr 2023 #40
McConnell laid the groundwork in 2010 for the court takeover. NullTuples Apr 2023 #41
Think again? The influence is FAR-RIGHT CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN RELIGIOSITY. Hortensis Apr 2023 #50

Kittycatkat

(1,356 posts)
3. Yes, this was their plan all along! Hopefully this fact will kept in the spottlight.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:00 AM
Apr 2023

I am tired of being called a conspiracy theorist! Facts are facts, we must all believe our eyes and our ears and our common sense and our decency. The rule of old crackers must finally be put in the rear view mirror in this country.

Carlitos Brigante

(26,515 posts)
4. Started with that rancid bag of shit and polling place "overseer" Renqhuist and
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:02 AM
Apr 2023

continues to devolve under this freak Roberts. Fuck him and his fake ass "awww shucks" bullshit. It's laughable, not in a funny way, how he's sometimes referred to in the press, as some sort of "moderate". Just because the other psychos are a little more obvious.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
7. As horrific as Dredd Scott was, I think the Roberts court will go down
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:14 AM
Apr 2023

as the worst, most destructive and corrupt Supreme Court in history.

Sympthsical

(9,209 posts)
9. The California Assembly is 77.5% Democratic
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:27 AM
Apr 2023

With 62.5% D and 37.5% R raw vote in the election.

Tennessee popular election totals were 70.6% R, 26.8% D for the state Senate. 70.5% R, 26.9% D in the state House.

California is more imbalanced than Tennessee when it comes to popular totals and state representation. (5% difference in Tenn. vs. 15% difference in California)

Maybe - just maybe - gerrymandering is and has been a problem everywhere and is getting worse.

leftieNanner

(15,218 posts)
21. California's districts
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:36 AM
Apr 2023

Are drawn by a non partisan committee, not a partisan legislature. Not the same thing.

Sympthsical

(9,209 posts)
22. Well then Tennessee has some very incompetent partisans
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:43 AM
Apr 2023

Or the non-partisan committee is terrible. The point remains. The OP's premise is that the legislature representation vs. popular vote is egregiously unfair. That 75/25 is a crazy imbalance with a 71/27 popular ratio. I'm noting that, according to the popular vote, it's not that imbalanced.

Other states are a lot worse.

Edit: One other note. California's super-majority depends on this imbalance. So there are a lot of policy implications in these things.

Zeitghost

(3,911 posts)
42. True
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:13 PM
Apr 2023

But that non partisan committee has drawn one of the most unbalanced maps in the country. But it's unbalanced in our favor so it's okay.

mjvpi

(1,444 posts)
26. Point taken, but. I have seen R control of CA in my lifetime. The minority has never been.....
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 12:36 PM
Apr 2023

…….expelled from their elected positions. Current Democratic control of CA has been earned by policy not blatant power play. Politics is all about power, so obviously there have been instances of excess in CA, but what is happening in TN is a ballet of racist ratfuckers.

maxrandb

(15,439 posts)
31. Why are you attempting to "both-siderize" this?
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 02:48 PM
Apr 2023

California has and independent non-partisan commission that draws congressional districts. California has taken the power to redistrict out of the hands of politicians. Democrats just happen to have a 2-1 registration edge over RETRUMPLICANS in California.

If California Democrats had done what TN, WI, NC, GA, OH, and PA Retrumplicans have done, "Squeaker" McCarthy probably wouldn't even be in Congress.

Funny, but I found this interesting, retrumplicans are trying to get the Supreme Court of the Confederate States to do away with these independent non-partisan redistricting committees and return the power to draw districts back to partisan hacks.

It's NOT the Democratic Party that brought this case to the Supreme Court of the Confederate States. It's the Retrumplicans

"There is definitely both grass roots and legal momentum for giving redistricting to ordinary citizens,” as California did, reapportionment expert Michael Li of New York University told a reporter.

And yet… a case brought by Republicans challenging the new Michigan citizen reapportionment law could endanger the entire concept. If the U.S. Supreme Court eventually backs the GOP in this case, the California commission could die quietly, tossing redistricting back to politicians who can be counted on to look out for their own interests to the exclusion of almost everything else."

Kaleva

(36,448 posts)
10. Sadly, too many people on our side didn't like Hillary.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:41 AM
Apr 2023

Most everyone knew that the 2016 election was about control of the Supreme Court. However, too many didn't think that was a big enough issue to overcome their dislike of Hillary and we'll pay the price for that for a long time.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
11. You forgot
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:41 AM
Apr 2023

You could not get here without the US voters who either voted for, protest voted against or didn't vote at all. One can blame gerrymandering, Fox news, Hello Kitty or whatever the blame of the day is all they want. But the fact remains, what we see now should not have come as a surprise to anyone. To anyone paying attention that is. It's been unfolding in plain sight for a very long time.

Republicans have been broadcasting their intentions to the world for decades. But alas, the public was too busy with American Idol, Twitter, do I get the warm and fuzzies with this or that candidate, will that candidate agree with ME 100% of the time, and I just really don't care or have the time for politics, my life is too busy.

Fact is, the SC is there because that is what the US voters put there. The federal courts are there because that is what the US voters put there. State government is there, you guessed it, because that is what the voters put there. Either by voting for, protest voting against, or not voting at all. I hear all the times "do politicians think we're stupid or not paying attention"? My answer always, yes, they are counting on it! And one can get all up in arms and defensive and scream "NOT ME". And that actually IS the case in a large# of US voters. But, it doesn't change the fact that we were warned and warned and warned and warned again about what was coming. The republicans certainly were not in the least bit shy telling us all exactly what they wanted to do and how they planned to get there. Well, here it is. It was a long game with a twisted winding road of how to get there. And a lot of the population sped right past the "bridge out" sign and drove right over the cliff. The time for outrage and action, well, that ship has sailed. And, the clean up on isle America, well, we're gonna need waaaaaaaay more than a mop.

When it's all written in History, the question asked won't be, how did this happen? The question will be, Why did the American people allow it to happen.

Farmer-Rick

(10,262 posts)
12. Well thought out
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:53 AM
Apr 2023

I see the evidence you present and it is very compelling.

The filthy rich have taken over the Republicon party and are profiting nicely from this fascism. And add to that Putin's stolen loot, it's a win win for thieves and greed.

usaf-vet

(6,261 posts)
13. You are right the Roberts Court in history will be remember as the "Shitshow" Court.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 10:56 AM
Apr 2023
Or, in more respectable terms, as the "fecal impacted" court that was bought to dump on the majority of all Americans.

Traildogbob

(8,939 posts)
15. As a veteran
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:11 AM
Apr 2023

From Vietnam era, we had no right to vote, but a mandate to go die for this country. The percentage of blacks and minorities outnumbered whites. The ones that came back mutilated, damaged physically and mentally are now having their voting rights stripped away again. By many white people that never served a fucking day for this country. As a white, we can never feel the outrage and disdain those veteran and their families right now. God bless America my ass. Right now that flag disgusts me. Mostly because those MAGA traitors fly it proudly, everywhere as representation of their form of supremacy rule. Most would shit on those deceased soldiers graves.

world wide wally

(21,762 posts)
17. The two biggest problems in America are the Supreme Court and gerrymandering
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:14 AM
Apr 2023

Solve those two problems and we have some real possibilities.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
18. Bingo
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:24 AM
Apr 2023

Republicans knew EXATLY how to set the system with protection on all sides. Pack the SC and the federal courts and you have a good shot at having a fail safe. Take State houses and you can start passing extreme laws with the comfort knowing you have the courts on your side. Remember, the SC didn't "overturn ROE, they sent it back to the states to decide. Republicans gave themselves several layers of protection and many different ways to get their agenda implemented. That a big wound up mess. Unwinding it, well, that's going to be quite the challenge.

True Blue American

(18,001 posts)
44. Agree!
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 05:39 AM
Apr 2023

We know how McConnell refused to vote on Merrick Garland, how he cheated to get Barrett on How some one paid off debt, how Lindsey screeched Aand cried over a distinguished Doctos claim of rape

An indicted ex President put 3 on the Court.. Thomas and his wife actually pushed the insurrection. Thomas accepted millions in gifts. Roberts wife is making a fortune off his position.

LisaM

(27,874 posts)
28. So it belongs to Bush and Rove and their ilk.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 12:51 PM
Apr 2023

I couldn't help but think back to a Tennessee that once elected Al Gore as their senator and wondered what he must have been thinking yesterday.

madamesilverspurs

(15,822 posts)
43. Roberts helped to engineer W's "win" in 2000,
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 11:54 PM
Apr 2023

his current post is his reward. He's now joined by two of his team-W helpers, Kavanaugh and Barrett, and there is no possibility of coincidence in that.


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Ligyron

(7,657 posts)
48. I actually forgot that Gore was once elected in this state that now has a bigoted, RW legislature.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 09:10 AM
Apr 2023

Ditto Clinton in a state, AK, that now has a christofascist Governor.

The present horror has moved my mind so far away from what was once a relatively sane period that I totally forgot about them.

happy feet

(886 posts)
29. +1,000,000,000
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 01:27 PM
Apr 2023

Rather than media always jumping to the latest shiny object, I wish more would also focus on the big picture...Repubs are great at playing the long game (albeit by lying, cheating, and paying off)

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
30. Not sure where you're getting the "confederate" nonsense.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 02:00 PM
Apr 2023

The only southerner on the court is Thomas I think.

The rest are from the northeast or other places.

maxrandb

(15,439 posts)
37. You don't have to live in the south to have the ideology of the confederacy
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:52 PM
Apr 2023

Last edited Sat Apr 8, 2023, 06:12 AM - Edit history (1)

But make no mistake, this is the court Jefferson Davis would have given us.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
46. Tell us you hate the south without telling us you hate the south.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 07:13 AM
Apr 2023

All northerners on the court except for Thomas.

David didn't give us this court. Personally, I prefer to stay in the present.

maxrandb

(15,439 posts)
47. Tell us you can't read the Electoral Maps of the past 50 years
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 07:49 AM
Apr 2023

Without telling us you can't read the Electoral Maps of the past 50 years.

Grins

(7,291 posts)
32. Not just the Citizens United decision.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 04:53 PM
Apr 2023

Since the three were demanding changes to gun laws, you can add District of Columbia v. Heller, and New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,654 posts)
34. Gerrymandering is a big problem, no doubt.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 05:43 PM
Apr 2023

But Republicans would control Tennessee pretty well even without it. Trump got 60% of the vote there. The R got 65% of the vote in the governor election.

There are states with huge Dem majorities, too. Hawaii's state house is 88% Dem. Rhode Island is 87% Dem. Massachusetts is 84% Dem.

maxrandb

(15,439 posts)
45. Hawaii, Rhode Island and Massachusetts
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 06:28 AM
Apr 2023

Don't have districts that look like a snake swallowing a shriveled penis stretching from one side of the state to the other, like Gym Jordan's district in Ohio.

HI, RI, and MA didn't split a city like Nashville in half, specifically to eliminate a majority African American district, like TN did.

Both sides DON'T do the same when it comes to redistricting.

Both parties are NOT the same!

Bullshit like; "oh yeah, well this state is majority DEM," without the context and details of how they draw their districts, does nothing but support the fascists screed of "both sides are the same".

Anyone who has watched this shitshow over the past 7 years, and can still even fucking hint at "both sides are the same", is worse than worthless, they are enabling.

krkaufman

(13,443 posts)
40. John Crow
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 09:50 PM
Apr 2023

This is one reason I feel the new discriminatory laws and policies need to be referred to as John Crow, rather than Jim Crow 2.0, to ensure proper attribution to John Roberts.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
41. McConnell laid the groundwork in 2010 for the court takeover.
Fri Apr 7, 2023, 09:58 PM
Apr 2023

He also was responsible for blocking President Obama's nominees.

This is on him as much as the Federalist judges he seated.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
50. Think again? The influence is FAR-RIGHT CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN RELIGIOSITY.
Sat Apr 8, 2023, 10:13 AM
Apr 2023

No to ignoring reality in order to blame the south -- which deserves plenty, but not THIS. (And of course there are no confederate states.)

GEOGRAPHY: Roberts is from New York. Gorsuch Colorado. Kavanaugh Washington DC. Alito New Jersey. Barrett Louisiana. Thomas Georgia. Most spent most of their educational years and adult lives in the northeast. (The liberal justices are from NY, NY, and DC.)

CONSERVATISM: All the conservative bloc justices are very to extremely conservative. NO moderates.

RELIGION: Five are LIFELONG DEVOUT CATHOLICS, Gorsuch also devout Catholic most of his life before shifting to an undefined Episcopalian (Protestant) sect; many see him as effectively a sixth Catholic justice.

Here's a little eye-opening religious history of the Roberts court by The Constitution Center from a study published before Barrett joined the court. Obviously, the influence of conservative Christianity has grown since she replaced RBG.

The study was based on a dataset that included every Supreme Court case that produced an opinion relating to the First Amendment’s establishment and free exercise clauses from 1953 to the 2020 term. The data showed that the Roberts Court represents a break in the development of the two religion clauses.

“Over the entire period, the court ruled in favor of religion 59% of the time,” the authors reported. “Win rates do not differ significantly for Free Exercise Clause cases (59%) and Establishment Clause cases (57%). Across the Warren, Burger, and Rehnquist Courts the religious side prevailed about half the time, with gradually increasing success. In the Roberts Court, the win rate jumps to 83%.”

The study noted two major shifts in the court’s religion rulings: leftward in the 1960s and 1970s and rightward beginning in the 1990s.

“The religion clauses of the First Amendment were once understood to provide modest but meaningful protection for non-mainstream religions from discrimination by governments that favored mainstream Christian organizations, practices, or values,” they wrote. “On the other hand, the religion clauses provided little protection for mainstream religions—indeed, under the Establishment Clause, mainstream religion’s influence over government policy was restricted. Under the Roberts Court, however, the religion clauses have increasingly been used to protect mainstream Christian values or organizations that are restricted by secular laws or liberal constitutional protections.” This transformation, the study says, is largely the result of changes in the court’s personnel. ...

The top five most pro-religion justices since at least World War II are Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. and Justices Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito Jr., Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch.”

“They are also all Christian, mostly Catholic, religiously devout (though this variable provides a weaker explanation than the others), and ideologically conservative. Amy Coney Barrett will likely advance this trend.”

Barrett, who didn’t join the court until 2020, did advance the trend in last term’s religion decisions, her first full term on the court. ...

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-justices-faith-and-their-religion-clause-decisions


Of course it's not just religion. Other studies examine the profound secular shifts to serving the wealthy and business and to acting in effect as a political agent of the Republican Party.

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