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Joinfortmill

(15,278 posts)
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 01:57 PM Mar 2023

Does America Need an Emmett Till Moment to See How Children are Mutilated by AR15s?

https://hartmannreport.com/p/does-america-need-an-emmett-till?utm_source=substack&utm_medium

'Leadership from multiple venues in American journalism should get together and decide what photos to release, for maximum impact and minimum trauma.' Thom Hartmann

THE HARTMANN REPORT

'His mother, Mamie Bradley, made the extraordinarily brave decision to show her child’s mutilated face with an open-coffin funeral in their hometown of Chicago....

And now we have another mass school shooting, this time in Tennessee with three 9-year-old girls dead as well as 3 adults. Immediately followed by another pathetic Republican congressman claiming that Congress can’t do a thing...This is a phenomenon as systemic and unique to the United States today as Jim Crow was in the 1950s. The gun control movement needs to learn from the Civil Rights movement.'

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Does America Need an Emmett Till Moment to See How Children are Mutilated by AR15s? (Original Post) Joinfortmill Mar 2023 OP
Americans are quite fragile and will be damaged by facing reality. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #1
However, the right all about showing photos of aborted fetuses to us. Chainfire Mar 2023 #11
Exactly. Child deaths are just collateral damage in the GOP quest for power and wealth. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #12
Republicans are OK with child gun murders as long as it is someone else's children. Chainfire Mar 2023 #15
Wealthy GOPers send their kids to highly protected private schools. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #16
One of the few questions to title an article that can be answered with a Yes. Probatim Mar 2023 #2
I was thinking the same thing. But I'm not optimistic about its potential to change minds. Aristus Mar 2023 #3
Anyone who thinks this is a good idea can google crime scene photos from quite a few mass shootings WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2023 #4
Yes yes yes! ret5hd Mar 2023 #5
👆👆 crickets Mar 2023 #24
Excellent idea PlanetBev Mar 2023 #6
Yes. Unfortunately, that's EXACTLY what we need. Paladin Mar 2023 #7
Yeah, probably, but the handful of corporations which control almost all media dissemination RockRaven Mar 2023 #8
Americans already get great movie make-up gore porn streamed to their ... sanatanadharma Mar 2023 #9
Wars get the attention of Americans when the draft is initiated. Hope22 Mar 2023 #10
and what if pictures are shown and they still don't give a shit? what then? what's the next step IcyPeas Mar 2023 #13
I can answer that question... markie Mar 2023 #27
Pre-Dobbs, some states decided to restrict abortion access Retrograde Mar 2023 #14
Yes, they do, as horrible as that is obamanut2012 Mar 2023 #17
Thomm Hartmans guest explained why we shouldn't edisdead Mar 2023 #18
Family consent would be a necessary part of such showings. Paladin Mar 2023 #20
She's the leader of Sandy hook promise. edisdead Mar 2023 #22
I find this idea rather ghoulish and cynical sarisataka Mar 2023 #19
It won't make any difference. beaglelover Mar 2023 #21
I agree markie Mar 2023 #26
I don't wish it on anyone, Talitha Mar 2023 #23
I have said before markie Mar 2023 #25
Only if it's a little white girl with the face of an angel. scarletlib Mar 2023 #28

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
1. Americans are quite fragile and will be damaged by facing reality.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:01 PM
Mar 2023

Americans are distraught if they have to wear masks and get vaccines during a deadly global pandemic.

Iconic works of art and literature make them go insane.

So we must keep Americans comfortable at all costs.
Even if it means they are all killed by guns.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
11. However, the right all about showing photos of aborted fetuses to us.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:43 PM
Mar 2023

Republicans see child deaths from guns as the cost of doing business. The Republicans can only be elected by help from the gun industry and the 2A only voters. Expect nothing to change until we have a supermajority in congress, a President in the White House, and have cleared the trash from the SC....In other words, children will continue to die from guns for the foreseeable future.

Gun laws are changing almost daily in the US; they are becoming less restrictive in most places.

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
12. Exactly. Child deaths are just collateral damage in the GOP quest for power and wealth.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:46 PM
Mar 2023

They will kill as many children as it takes to get what they want.

They will also use any tactic to win, showing pictures of a fetus, etc.
But if Dems do that with dead school children we are the devil incarnate.

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
16. Wealthy GOPers send their kids to highly protected private schools.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:50 PM
Mar 2023

They don't have to mingle with us, the riff-raff.

Probatim

(2,724 posts)
2. One of the few questions to title an article that can be answered with a Yes.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:02 PM
Mar 2023

However, I thought Rolling Stone did an article showing gunshot victims and their scars a few years ago and it did nothing.

Aristus

(67,086 posts)
3. I was thinking the same thing. But I'm not optimistic about its potential to change minds.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:02 PM
Mar 2023

Alex Jones and others of his squalid, loathsome ilk will just drag out the old reliable 'crisis actors' trope and beat that to death on the public airwaves. And the screeching, syphilitic howler monkeys that make up his base audience will believe it without question.

And the rest of us will have been subjected to that paralyzing horror for nothing.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,918 posts)
4. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea can google crime scene photos from quite a few mass shootings
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:02 PM
Mar 2023

and share them however they want. They are very easy to find.

Paladin

(28,496 posts)
7. Yes. Unfortunately, that's EXACTLY what we need.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:19 PM
Mar 2023

With the parents' permission, show what's left of an elementary school child, after he or she absorbs a few .223 rounds. Up close and in color.

RockRaven

(15,580 posts)
8. Yeah, probably, but the handful of corporations which control almost all media dissemination
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:20 PM
Mar 2023

won't allow it (again probably).

Will Twitter and Facebook/Meta allow those pics on their platforms? Will NYT or WaPo put them in their articles (digital or paper)? Will the broadcast networks fight with the FCC for the right to send those images out over public airways? Will cable news channels risk the ire of advertisers and cable carriers? It's probably "no" to all of those, and I don't see how we get to yes.

sanatanadharma

(3,869 posts)
9. Americans already get great movie make-up gore porn streamed to their ...
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:25 PM
Mar 2023

... big screens, TV's, tablets, and mobile screens. The CSI, cops and robbers, war, porn-gore genre gets better and better because Americans do not turn away. Some ghoulishly seek out the real sadism found online. Others seek to be the online sought. Sad!

It is little wonder that blood-sacrifice is the national religious ritual of the USA.

Hope22

(2,252 posts)
10. Wars get the attention of Americans when the draft is initiated.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:42 PM
Mar 2023

I guess each family needs to sign up one child to be sacrificed at school. Sounds stupid doesn’t it. At this rate we will be there before the class of 33 graduates. # one killer of kids now! Frankly I don’t know how parents handle the stress of it all.
All of this talk about low test scores as a result of Covid makes me wonder if it is the pandemic or PTSD from hearing about, experiencing or knowing someone who died at school that is causing the kid’s poor testing results. All of this, and it doesn’t address the recurring PTSD that those who have experienced an attack for themselves or a loved one and the bitter news of another gun wielding person carrying out another school execution! The pain never stops.

IcyPeas

(22,190 posts)
13. and what if pictures are shown and they still don't give a shit? what then? what's the next step
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:47 PM
Mar 2023

what's the next step after that?

THEY.DON'T.CARE.

markie

(22,776 posts)
27. I can answer that question...
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 04:10 PM
Mar 2023

they DON'T give a shit... what next? do whatever it takes to make sure people vote Democrat!!

Retrograde

(10,371 posts)
14. Pre-Dobbs, some states decided to restrict abortion access
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:47 PM
Mar 2023

by showing the prospective patients pictures of aborted fetuses, going for the most gory ones they could find (are they still doing that?) If I ran the country, people wanting to buy assault rifles as well as any lawmakers who vote on assault rifle or ammunition restriction, will be required to look at pictures of bodies mutilated by their fetish machines.

obamanut2012

(26,716 posts)
17. Yes, they do, as horrible as that is
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:51 PM
Mar 2023

That is how the American public started really turning against teh Vietnam Warm seeing dead Americans, crying Americans, etc. on their TV screens every night.

edisdead

(2,770 posts)
18. Thomm Hartmans guest explained why we shouldn't
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:59 PM
Mar 2023

The victims have done enough and the family’s remembrance of them should not be destroyed by seeing their loved ones bodies riddled with bullet holes and worse.

Also not sure the American public would be swayed by this.

Paladin

(28,496 posts)
20. Family consent would be a necessary part of such showings.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 03:12 PM
Mar 2023

Other than that, Hartman's guest is incorrect.

edisdead

(2,770 posts)
22. She's the leader of Sandy hook promise.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 03:15 PM
Mar 2023

Also the mother of one of the slain children. She had many valid points. His show is usually available via podcast. While your opinions are valid, I think hers are also worth a listen.

sarisataka

(19,663 posts)
19. I find this idea rather ghoulish and cynical
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 03:10 PM
Mar 2023

Not to mention disrespectful to the victims and their families.

Talitha

(6,910 posts)
23. I don't wish it on anyone,
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 03:45 PM
Mar 2023

But I honestly wonder if anything would change if a Repug gun humper - or one of their children or grandchildren - got pulverized by an assault weapon, and needed to be identified by their DNA.

markie

(22,776 posts)
25. I have said before
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 04:07 PM
Mar 2023

and banned for it... the only thing that may help is to have Republican's children die from gunfire! I still believe this

scarletlib

(3,442 posts)
28. Only if it's a little white girl with the face of an angel.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 04:10 PM
Mar 2023

That might affect some of the guns nuts. Otherwise doubtful.

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