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Manhattan grand jury considering Trump's hush money case will break for a month: (Original Post) Joinfortmill Mar 2023 OP
He's gonna beat claudette Mar 2023 #1
Looks like Trump made it go away. And the Georgia grand jury? dem4decades Mar 2023 #2
He must have bought off or threatened the witnesses, jury, prosecutors. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #14
He must have dirt on everyone. Or he knows too many government secrets. dem4decades Mar 2023 #24
Or maybe inthewind21 Mar 2023 #26
Wild speculation? You mean like the Russian collision, the Mueller Report, January 6th, Georgia dem4decades Mar 2023 #36
He didn't steal classified docs for fun. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #37
Trump has been working both sides of the street for a long time now. gldstwmn Mar 2023 #45
Putin takes the long view on cultivating assets. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #49
Meh! blueinredohio Mar 2023 #3
Seems like some DUers believed Trump's lie onenote Mar 2023 #4
Clearly inthewind21 Mar 2023 #27
Spring break deRien Mar 2023 #5
Most spring breaks are in March. BannonsLiver Mar 2023 #6
Not in the northeast and definitely not in NY. Raftergirl Mar 2023 #10
My bad. BannonsLiver Mar 2023 #34
No. College have their breaks in March, Public K-12 have theirs in April. Raftergirl Mar 2023 #47
As apparently people from wherever you live are totally oblivious to what the NE Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #50
Not as bizarre as you being so triggered over it. BannonsLiver Mar 2023 #52
LOL! You think that proves your point? Scrivener7 Mar 2023 #54
Many spring breaks center around Easter which comes in another 1.5 weeks. Norbert Mar 2023 #42
Not where deRien Mar 2023 #19
Outliers to 90 percent of the rest of the country BannonsLiver Mar 2023 #35
Not Around Here, BL ProfessorGAC Mar 2023 #48
If any of us were accused of horrible crimes, would spring break be an excuse? Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author inthewind21 Mar 2023 #30
Not for inthewind21 Mar 2023 #31
Even when the accused is threatening to burn down the country and kill the prosecutor? Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #38
Why guess? inthewind21 Mar 2023 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author inthewind21 Mar 2023 #29
Legal system rigged for rich people Johonny Mar 2023 #7
Politico is reporting no indictment yet, so.... getagrip_already Mar 2023 #8
Oh goodness, are we still doing "sealed indictments" in the Trump law fantasy league? Effete Snob Mar 2023 #16
It is all a big legal warfare game to Trump. And he is winning. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #18
No he isn't Effete Snob Mar 2023 #21
All he has to do is keep up the delay game. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #22
Yes inthewind21 Mar 2023 #32
Sigh Effete Snob Mar 2023 #46
But but but sarisataka Mar 2023 #9
Possibly allowing others to go first? moondust Mar 2023 #11
Do the rest of us still have to obey laws? Turbineguy Mar 2023 #12
Yes. The rich and powerful use the laws to protect and enrich themselves. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #13
Negotiate a settlement and cut a PSA that says only Trump can get away with this stuff. Don't try it Freethinker65 Mar 2023 #15
It was the media who said an indictment was imminent, not Bragg JohnSJ Mar 2023 #20
Yep. The expectation that some have about an indictment any day onenote Mar 2023 #33
Pundits and so-called experts are not real news Kaleva Mar 2023 #39
Wasn't it Trump himself? BlueCheeseAgain Mar 2023 #41
While that is true, I believe the illustrious press pushed it JohnSJ Mar 2023 #43
The entire ForgedCrank Mar 2023 #23
I know it has all been so silly and ridiculous. Irish_Dem Mar 2023 #40
Not inthewind21 Mar 2023 #25
It's Fitzmas! Oh wait... gldstwmn Mar 2023 #44
Yeah, well. Paladin Mar 2023 #51
This thread isn't aging well. Just A Box Of Rain Mar 2023 #53

dem4decades

(11,463 posts)
2. Looks like Trump made it go away. And the Georgia grand jury?
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 01:34 PM
Mar 2023

And all the other criminal cases against Trump?

Nowhere to be seen.

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
14. He must have bought off or threatened the witnesses, jury, prosecutors.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:23 PM
Mar 2023

Everything is always "imminent" and then totally fizzles out.

dem4decades

(11,463 posts)
24. He must have dirt on everyone. Or he knows too many government secrets.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 03:52 PM
Mar 2023

Just come the fuck out and say it, Trump will never be prosecuted, he's too dangerous and let the rest of us go back to being pissed off about something else.

They're making fools of us, Lucy and the football, and we're all Charlie Brown.

dem4decades

(11,463 posts)
36. Wild speculation? You mean like the Russian collision, the Mueller Report, January 6th, Georgia
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 04:52 PM
Mar 2023

Investigation?

Let me know when one comes to fruition.

Cohen went to jail.

The CEO of the Trump org went to jail.

Trump's having rallies and running the House of Representatives, I have no speculation that anything will happen to Trump. Ever

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
37. He didn't steal classified docs for fun.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 05:29 PM
Mar 2023

Well some of them he did just because he could and that was fun for him.

He has enough blackmail material to go a very long way.
And he also threatens and bullies people into compliance.

Yes we are all very dim bulbs or suckers.
Maybe both.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
45. Trump has been working both sides of the street for a long time now.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 06:57 PM
Mar 2023

The recent news on the FBI investigation into Ivana came as no surprise. Someone should look in her coffin.

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
49. Putin takes the long view on cultivating assets.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 07:38 PM
Mar 2023

He is the richest man in the world and can well afford to invest in a long term espionage strategy.
I agree, Ivana's death is something to think about.

Raftergirl

(1,332 posts)
10. Not in the northeast and definitely not in NY.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 01:56 PM
Mar 2023

Some schools have the week of Passover off (which starts the evening of April 5th) and some have the week after Easter, which is April 9th.

BannonsLiver

(17,110 posts)
34. My bad.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 04:51 PM
Mar 2023

I had forgotten that people in the NE are totally oblivious to what the rest of the country does. Flyover country and all.

On edit: NYU’s spring break is in March. Rutgers was also in March. That’s a quick sampling of 2 large NY/NJ colleges. I stand by my original assessment. Most are in March.

Raftergirl

(1,332 posts)
47. No. College have their breaks in March, Public K-12 have theirs in April.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 07:09 PM
Mar 2023

Schools in the northeast have a February winter break and then a break 6 weeks later. The kids here go also go to school until late June, so a March vacation leaves 3 months left in the school year without a break.

I know other areas of the country have their K-12 break in March. They don’t get a week off in February or April, but they get out of school in mid-late May.

The people on the Grand Jury in NYC are New Yorkers who live in NY and likely have children who go to school in NY. And those children have an April vacation.

I am not oblivious to other areas of the country. I e lived in both Colorado and Chicago.

It seems you are oblivious to what NY and the other Northeastern states do.

Scrivener7

(51,492 posts)
50. As apparently people from wherever you live are totally oblivious to what the NE
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 11:39 AM
Mar 2023

does. And also what the rest of the country does, it seems.

The line of "Poor us in flyover country! We're so neglected no one even knows when our school breaks are!" sentiment is bizarrely pathetic.

BannonsLiver

(17,110 posts)
52. Not as bizarre as you being so triggered over it.
Thu Mar 30, 2023, 05:42 PM
Mar 2023

What a creepy, weird reaction but thanks for proving my point to a T.

Norbert

(6,164 posts)
42. Many spring breaks center around Easter which comes in another 1.5 weeks.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 05:56 PM
Mar 2023

Passover does not in until April 13th.

deRien

(180 posts)
19. Not where
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:47 PM
Mar 2023

I live either ~ usually around the first and second week of April. Colleges and universities have quarter breaks in March.

ProfessorGAC

(66,914 posts)
48. Not Around Here, BL
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 07:19 PM
Mar 2023

Most districts are either this week, the next, or Easter week. (Chicago area)
In the 12 districts I work, only 2 are breaking this week. Two next week, the other 8 the week after that.

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
17. If any of us were accused of horrible crimes, would spring break be an excuse?
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:25 PM
Mar 2023

If we had planned an insurrection against the US government, or stolen hundreds of classified documents?
Or threatened to kill a prosecutor?

Welcome to DU!

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #17)

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
31. Not for
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 04:17 PM
Mar 2023

the accused. But for the jurors, it absolutely would. When I was a juror, the judge broke early on days I had class. So why is this so shocking to everyone? Especially since it's been on their schedule since Jan. Which is out to see, if you want to actually know why.

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
38. Even when the accused is threatening to burn down the country and kill the prosecutor?
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 05:31 PM
Mar 2023

What a silly system we have.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
28. Why guess?
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 04:14 PM
Mar 2023

The break has been on the schedule since they started in January, It's actually referenced in the article in this very thread.

Response to deRien (Reply #5)

getagrip_already

(15,857 posts)
8. Politico is reporting no indictment yet, so....
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 01:51 PM
Mar 2023

The break will delay any possible indictment until at least may unless Bragg calls the grand jury back early.

So for those fantasizing the indictment is issued and under seal, this may be a reality check.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
46. Sigh
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 06:57 PM
Mar 2023

I will say that their loonies are quite a bit further off the deep end than our loonies. But, golly, don't people learn anything from the Terry and the Pirates serial thriller model?



And, honestly, the state should have taken that "young ward" away from him.

sarisataka

(19,663 posts)
9. But but but
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 01:52 PM
Mar 2023

Imminent....

DA consulting police...

Police talking to Secret Service...

SOURCES!!!!


maybe we can go a month without predictions of what is happening when...

Probably not.

moondust

(20,199 posts)
11. Possibly allowing others to go first?
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:03 PM
Mar 2023

The "imminent" case in GA or the SC cases that are generally considered more consequential?

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
13. Yes. The rich and powerful use the laws to protect and enrich themselves.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:22 PM
Mar 2023

For the rest of us, the laws are meant to control and persecute.

Freethinker65

(10,501 posts)
15. Negotiate a settlement and cut a PSA that says only Trump can get away with this stuff. Don't try it
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 02:23 PM
Mar 2023

Trump can brag how he fu$ked a porn star and got away with it because Trump is seen as an alpha male leader. He can talk about having his choice of porn stars to fu$k over the years and even how he bought Melania for cheap. Art of the deal, baby. Trump voters will love him for it. He can say his only regret is not getting one last raw dog before he paid Stormy off. Hell he can then campaign off that.

Democrats can try to bring it up and social media will make fun of Democrats for not being tough and smart enough to fu$k porn stars and claim to care about traditional American values and get away with it.

It isn't worth it. Treating women like sex toys and breeders is seen as a positive for most of the current GOP and GOP controlled States.

onenote

(43,453 posts)
33. Yep. The expectation that some have about an indictment any day
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 04:43 PM
Mar 2023

is based on unsubstantiated media speculation and Trump's tweet.

BlueCheeseAgain

(1,865 posts)
41. Wasn't it Trump himself?
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 05:35 PM
Mar 2023

As far as I can tell, the only reason anybody thought anything might happen was because Trump said it would. And we know how untruthful he is.

ForgedCrank

(1,994 posts)
23. The entire
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 03:17 PM
Mar 2023

thing was on thin ice from the very beginning anyway.
And even IF he was ever charged and convicted, the worst case would likely just be some fines. I don't know where all of these fantastical predictions of handcuffs and jail time came from over the past few weeks.

Irish_Dem

(53,117 posts)
40. I know it has all been so silly and ridiculous.
Wed Mar 29, 2023, 05:33 PM
Mar 2023

The idea Trump will serve jail time is ludicrous.

IF he is charged and convicted, and that is a big IF, we would look at fines.
Absolute most that would happen is house arrest which Trump would ignore.
And no one would do anything about it.

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