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Chief just said shooter identified as in "Transition" (Original Post) Cattledog Mar 2023 OP
I thought he said the shooter was transgender Wanderlust988 Mar 2023 #1
That has been floating around Twitter for a bit but not from any reliable sources Jose Garcia Mar 2023 #4
Yes, he did. Meadowoak Mar 2023 #2
Yeah he said "She does identify as transgender." joshcryer Mar 2023 #3
internet is saying shooter was bio female who used "he" pronouns. BlueWaveNeverEnd Mar 2023 #5
Seems a little unlikely if they went by 'Audrey Hale' ... though not conclusive of course Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2023 #12
They probably got the name off of his ID FreeState Mar 2023 #14
Totally get your point ... but because bio-females so rarely shoot up schools and kill kids Hugh_Lebowski Mar 2023 #19
Kiss my ass, chief. Aristus Mar 2023 #6
It's part of the facts of the case SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2023 #7
How about facts relevant to the case? Aristus Mar 2023 #8
Then let's never SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2023 #9
Because this is not relevant obamanut2012 Mar 2023 #11
Neither SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2023 #13
When it was reported the shooter was female, everyone was treating that as relevant onenote Mar 2023 #17
Why? When do tyhey say, "The shooter was a cis, straight man" obamanut2012 Mar 2023 #10
Thank you Marthe48 Mar 2023 #15
the chief was asked if the shooter was transgender orleans Mar 2023 #16
As did inthewind21 Mar 2023 #18
is it "plastered all over this site?" i must not be paying good attention nt orleans Mar 2023 #20
Link to briefing FemDemERA Mar 2023 #21
Well, immediately after posting this... FemDemERA Mar 2023 #22
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. Seems a little unlikely if they went by 'Audrey Hale' ... though not conclusive of course
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 05:36 PM
Mar 2023

Not to mention ... bio-females are statistically very unlikely to shoot up schools.

Not that it matters too too much in the grand scheme of things.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
19. Totally get your point ... but because bio-females so rarely shoot up schools and kill kids
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 06:13 PM
Mar 2023

I'm going to wait on clarification.

Really, if the shooter is a bio-female who's been taking testosterone and transitioning to male, and then goes on a murderous rampage ... it's almost a worse look than if it's a trans woman.

But it's really not a look good either way. Completely unfairly, of course, but unless the TN cops are lying ... this just plays into the transphobes hands.

A horrible tragedy ... just made worse.

Aristus

(66,393 posts)
6. Kiss my ass, chief.
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 05:26 PM
Mar 2023

How about I show you hundreds of thousands of transgender people who don't do this shit?

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
7. It's part of the facts of the case
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 05:28 PM
Mar 2023

Of course it should be reported - doesn’t mean all transgender individuals are potential school shooters.

orleans

(34,060 posts)
16. the chief was asked if the shooter was transgender
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 05:39 PM
Mar 2023

and he said yes she is

later asked if shooter identified as a man or woman and he said woman

the chief used female pronouns when referencing the shooter

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
18. As did
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 06:11 PM
Mar 2023

all the neighbors interviewed that knew her and her parents referred to her. I'm suspicious of this transgender proclamation this early in. Especially in light of the whole trans, drag queen freak outs on the R's part of late. And I'm really disappointed at the plastering of it all over this site as if it were a solid fact at this point. As if it matters. I can't EVER recall police stating in a press conference "It was a heterosexual white male"

FemDemERA

(228 posts)
21. Link to briefing
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 07:50 PM
Mar 2023

Here’s a link, if anyone wants to watch the briefing for themself.

https://m.



What I saw/heard was that Every official who spoke at the briefing used the term she/her/woman. The chief did say “they” a couple of times, but that’s common-speak so I didn’t think anything of it. During question time, a reporter asked if it was true that the shooter identified as transG. The Chiefs response was yes. There was a follow up question asking if the shooter identified as a transgender man or woman. Chief responded she identified as a woman. He answered the reporter questions but didn’t dwell on it and none of the officials said anything about the shooter being trans until the reporters asked.

My heart sank when that question was asked and answered. Every time a person of a marginalized population commits a crime, that population ends up being targeted by the fascists on the right even more. It’s not right, it’s not fair, it is the reality.

I’ve been watching MSNBC and they have been very consistent about the use of she/her and not saying much about the fact she was a trans woman. (Although as I finish this, They’ve pretty much moved on from the shooting story to talking about the usual topic).

I must admit to my own bias… when I first heard 28-year-old female, My first snarky thought was that it must be a Maggot cult member who attended the rally this weekend. Reminder to work on my own jumping to conclusions…

FemDemERA

(228 posts)
22. Well, immediately after posting this...
Mon Mar 27, 2023, 10:29 PM
Mar 2023

I started reading other articles, and there really seems to be differing reports. That’s not really surprising as there often is confusion after events like this, but it’s always frustrating. Most of the articles I’m reading now are just saying “the suspect”. So while the Chief said what he said, I guess we don’t know if he was correct.

And in the end the only thing that will matter about any aspect of the shooters life will be in how the right wing spins it to try and deflect away from the fact that a person walked into a building with assault weapons and ended the lives of six human beings.

Sad day.


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