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Celerity

(43,501 posts)
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 01:36 PM Mar 2023

2013: Santilli Doubles Down On Clinton Attack: 'I Want To Shoot Her In The Vagina & Let Her Suffer'

long post, sorry

Pete Santilli is the asshole calling for Obama, etc to be executed. see: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217744817


He has been publicly making these death threats for ages. I am sure since the late 2000s. From what I could gather, he has had an on-again, off-again love/hate relationship with Alex Jones and other far RW talk show hosts for at least 15 years or so, and he has been accused of being an FBI plant by many of them. Its a fucking clusterfuck rabbit hole when you dig back into that noughties and early 2010s (and even before, William Cooper, Alex Jones' mentor to a point, called out Jones as an agent/plant in the late 1990s and early 2000s, before Cooper was killed on November 5, 2001, see below) cesspool of CT RW radio/podcasts, etc. So many grifters and RWNJs, some dating back all the way to John Birch 1960s and 1970s days, all paranoid AF and turning on each other (especially post 9/11) and fighting over what was then a fairly small audience (compared to now) of global CT assholes.



Now this following is via DU search, from 10 years ago, on May 20, 2013:

The media has been sanitizing that Pete Santilli guy

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10022873526

He makes even Alex Jones look sane and sober.

Extremist radio host Pete Santilli is defending and reiterating his inflammatory attacks on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, stating on his program that he wants "to shoot her in the vagina and let her suffer right before my eyes."

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Santilli pushes whacked-out conspiracy theories like the claim that the Sandy Hook shooting was a "satanic sacrifice" and that the World Trade Center was brought down by a "high energy weapon." Despite all this, gun advocates like NRA board member Ted Nugent and Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt have appeared as guests on Santilli's program.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/05/20/santilli-doubles-down-on-clinton-attack-i-want/194158



Santilli Doubles Down On Clinton Attack: “I Want To Shoot Her In The Vagina And Let Her Suffer” Over Benghazi Actions (working radio show links at the link)

https://www.mediamatters.org/benghazi-conspiracy-theory/santilli-doubles-down-clinton-attack-i-want-shoot-her-vagina-and-let-her



Extremist radio host Pete Santilli is defending and reiterating his inflammatory attacks on former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, stating on his program that he wants “to shoot her in the vagina and let her suffer right before my eyes.” In a May 17 rant captured by Right Wing Watch, Santilli called for the Bush family and President Obama to be shot and for Clinton to be “shot in the vagina.” The Secret Service told TPM Media that they would investigate Santilli's comments in order to “determine what a person's intent is when making comments like this.”



Santilli pushes whacked-out conspiracy theories like the claim that the Sandy Hook shooting was a “satanic sacrifice” and that the World Trade Center was brought down by a “high energy weapon.” Despite all this, gun advocates like NRA board member Ted Nugent and Gun Owners of America's Larry Pratt have appeared as guests on Santilli's program. During a May 20 discussion with his guest, David Lory Vanderbeek, who argued that Clinton “should be executed” for “treason,” Santilli reiterated his attack.



Santilli went on to accuse Clinton of being “directly involved” in holding off military intervention in Benghazi and guilty of “obstructing justice” by “holding off” an FBI investigation into the attack.



Along with his guest, Santilli rehashed several long-debunked conspiracy theories that allege that the Clintons engaged in drug running in Mena Arkansas, and claim that a list of “assassinations” associated with the couple is authentic. Santilli also accused Clinton of shipping arms to Al Qaeda.

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related

(as to the origins of internet driven conspiracy theorists and the birth of widespread mass CT programming, which pivoted to mostly a RW stance that started to truly embrace the radical Rethugs after the election of Obama and the rise of Trump. (it was always RW to a degree, but used to have more LW or anti ALL major political powers stances at times as well, that has really fallen off except for so-called LW pro-Putin shills, useful idiots, and apologists like Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, Jimmy Dore, etc etc)


The cult of William Cooper: the oddball conspiracist who predicted 9/11 – and his own death

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/authors/cult-ofwilliam-cooper-oddball-conspiracist-predicted-911-death/

Milton William Cooper predicted 9/11. On June 28, 2001, the conspiracy theorist told listeners to his broadcast Hour of the Time that Osama bin Laden was about to be blamed for “a major attack” on a large city. Cooper was easy to dismiss: he had also told the world that Eisenhower signed a peace treaty with aliens and JFK was shot by the Secret Service. He was 58, drunk and living alone up a hill in Arizona. But on this occasion, he was right. And in the days that followed the attack on the World Trade Centre, Cooper also warned that he price of intuition would be his own life. “They’re going to come up here in the middle of the night, and shoot me dead, right on my doorstep,” he said. On November 5, 2001, that, too, is exactly what happened.

Marc Jacobson’s new biography of Cooper – Pale Horse Rider: William Cooper, the Rise of Conspiracy, and the Fall of Trust in America – is a fascinating insight into what they call the “paranoid style” of US politics, the anti-state populism that you’ll find bubbling away at Trump rallies or in the fevered broadcasts of Alex Jones. There have been countless conspiracy theories to explain American decline, from the Royal Family running the world to “9/11 was done with lasers” – Cooper’s talent was pulling several strands together into a coherent meta-narrative. It was enormously popular. His 1991 book Behold a Pale Horse is believed to have sold around 300,000 copies, although this figure doesn’t cover how many have been borrowed, shared or stolen. Barnes and Noble stores only sell it behind the counter because it keeps getting pinched. It's one of the most widely-read books in prison.

Cooper's official story of his own life is that he was born in 1943 to a military family; he served in Vietnam, the air force and as a naval intelligence officer. At some point he was privy to an extraordinary document. It claimed that Eisenhower had lied in 1954 when he said he’d lost a tooth cap on some chicken and been rushed to a dentist: he was in fact taken to the desert to meet an extra-terrestrial ambassador called His Omnipotent Highness Crlll. America and the aliens agreed to live in peace on a quid pro quo: Washington could have Crlll’s technology if Crlll could abduct the odd wide-eyed yokel and experiment on him. After John F Kennedy was elected president in 1960, he was told about the deal and threatened to expose it. So he was shot to death by his own driver in Texas, with what Cooper described as an “electrically operated, gas-powered assassin’s weapon built especially for the Central Intelligence Agency.” It “fired pellets of shellfish toxin.”

You can start to see Cooper’s appeal. When he went public with his theories in the late Eighties this softly-spoken ex-military man offered a unified theory of conspiracies that tied up aliens, Kennedy and the illuminati – the people who sweep everything under the carpet – in one happy bundle, and for a while he was a hit in the UFO community. But then Cooper pulled off a dramatic 180. He decided that the alien visitation was actually a fake, a fraud concocted by the government in order to distract attention from what it was really up to and to make its critics look like crazy people. The conspiracy was itself a conspiracy. This leant a certain integrity to Cooper’s thinking: if he was willing, in effect, to admit previous error, perhaps he was honestly motivated by a search for the truth?

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Bill Cooper Predicted 911 a little over 2 months before it happened.




This is from 25 years ago, before Cooper turned on Alex Jones:

This is the only time the two ever talked publicly, you can see the seeds of the mindset of Cooper that Jones expropriated (Cooper borrowed a lot from the Birchers and other much earlier pre-web CT pushers, but Cooper was the first internet CT 'superstar' (he also was on smaller-footprint terrestrial radio as well and public access telly, as was Jones). Cooper rose to global prominence after his 1991 book Behold A Pale Horse, and then Ruby Ridge in 1992, Waco in 1993, and Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, etc that he highlighted with his show, of course with the Clintons playing a central role of villany) Btw, Jones was also already under the spell of Ron Paul on financial matters by this time in 1998 :

Alex Jones and William (Bill) Cooper full length 1998 Interview.




How 'Behold A Pale Horse' Influenced Hip-Hop

The Conspiracist Manual That Influenced a Generation of Rappers


https://www.vulture.com/2018/08/how-behold-a-pale-horse-influenced-hip-hop.html



Milton William “Bill” Cooper (1943–2001), while largely unknown in the hated mainstream media, was the most important “conspiracy” writer and thinker of his time. Chances are individuals like Alex Jones, QAnon, and even Donald Trump would not have manifested the way they have without the influence of Bill Cooper and his book Behold A Pale Horse, which, 27 years after it was first published in 1991, remains the primer of the new American paranoid canon.

Cooper’s life, from his military service as a riverboat captain in the Vietnam War through intense exploration of the “fringe” culture of UFOs, the Kennedy assassination, the Knights Templar, radical patriot militias, and the 9/11 Truth movement, ended the only way it could have. In November 2001, as he predicted on his shortwave-radio show, “The Hour of the Time,” Cooper was shot dead in a gunfight with police on the doorstep of his hilltop home in eastern Arizona. Long before that, however, the influence of Cooper’s work had extended to unexpected places like Harlem and the New York housing projects that gave birth to hip-hop.

Nowadays you can buy a copy of Behold A Pale Horse from Walmart for $17.34 with two-day shipping. But if you want to know how Bill Cooper’s book came to Harlem, the fastest way is still the A train to 125th Street. From there, walk east to between Frederick Douglass and Adam Clayton Powell Jr. Boulevards, which is where, if he’s in the mood, you can find Bro. Nova at his sidewalk table across from the world-famous Apollo Theater.

All varieties of items can be bought from street vendors on 125th Street: vats of sheaf butter, aphrodisiac tinctures, copies of old Bruce Lee and Pam Grier movies, $12 Louis Vuitton pocketbooks made in Shenzhen. But even though he’s spent more than half his life as a 125th Street merchant, Bro. Nova, a tall and sleek man now in what looks to be his early 40s, has always stuck with books. It is a matter of continuity, Nova said. That was because, no matter how much they gentrify the neighborhood, “In the Beginning, there was the Word, and long after all this shit has been washed to the sea, there will still be the Word.”

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2013: Santilli Doubles Down On Clinton Attack: 'I Want To Shoot Her In The Vagina & Let Her Suffer' (Original Post) Celerity Mar 2023 OP
So what has he done lately? I don't understand the relevance? Srkdqltr Mar 2023 #1
He just called for Obama and others to be executed: Celerity Mar 2023 #2

Srkdqltr

(6,318 posts)
1. So what has he done lately? I don't understand the relevance?
Wed Mar 22, 2023, 01:44 PM
Mar 2023

I bet Clinton would have gladly shot him in the nuts to watch him suffer, or probably not.

Celerity

(43,501 posts)
2. He just called for Obama and others to be executed:
Fri Mar 24, 2023, 01:14 PM
Mar 2023
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217744817


I put that at the top of the OP so people would know why I was posting now about the scum Santilli.
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