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WarGamer

(12,488 posts)
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 07:04 PM Feb 2023

Chat GPT is pretty cool...

I've played with it quite a bit.

It tends to give answers like an A-Student in High School.

I haven't seen many really complex analysis from Chat GPT.

But here's what I'm thinking. This is just a start. How far are we from AI that can serve as a companion or a "friend" for the elderly, shut-ins and others who avoid social situations?

Try talking to Chat GPT like a person, and I have... and it says things like this:

Talk to Me

Sure, I'd be happy to chat with you! Is there anything in particular on your mind that you'd like to talk about? It can be anything from current events to personal interests or experiences.


I love science fiction, what's your favorite author?

As an AI language model, I don't have personal preferences or feelings, but I can tell you about some of the most popular and influential science fiction authors of all time.

Some of the most highly regarded science fiction authors include:

Isaac Asimov - known for his Foundation and Robot series
Arthur C. Clarke - known for 2001: A Space Odyssey and Rendezvous with Rama
Frank Herbert - known for his Dune series
Ursula K. Le Guin - known for The Left Hand of Darkness and The Dispossessed
H.G. Wells - known for The War of the Worlds and The Time Machine
Ray Bradbury - known for Fahrenheit 451 and The Martian Chronicles
Robert A. Heinlein - known for Stranger in a Strange Land and The Moon is a Harsh Mistress
Philip K. Dick - known for Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (the basis for the film Blade Runner) and The Man in the High Castle
Octavia Butler - known for Kindred and Parable of the Sower
Neal Stephenson - known for Snow Crash, The Diamond Age, and Anathem
These are just a few examples of some of the most celebrated science fiction authors, and there are many others to explore as well.


Can you act like a human?

As an AI language model, I am programmed to simulate human-like conversation as best I can, and I'm constantly learning and improving my ability to do so. While I don't have feelings or emotions like a human, I'm designed to understand and respond to natural language in a way that feels like a conversation.

I can discuss a wide variety of topics, answer questions, and provide information, and I aim to do so in a way that feels as natural and human-like as possible. However, if there's anything you're not sure about, feel free to ask!





Keep in mind. This is the free version. They're just letting us take a taste. I've read articles that the progress in AI will be accelerated now and we may see more advanced versions soon.

First they need to be inquisitive. You walk in the door to the house and the AI says

Hi Jack, did you get everything you needed at the grocery store? How did the blueberries look, I Know last time they were overly ripe and bad out of the box. Were the lines bad, it is a couple days before a Holiday.


So... AI needs to become "yours" to really be a companion. Like a human friend, AI needs to get to know YOU.

I think we're ridiculously close... not quite "m3gan close" but really close.



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Chat GPT is pretty cool... (Original Post) WarGamer Feb 2023 OP
open the pod door please hal. im sorry dave im afraid i cant do that nt msongs Feb 2023 #1
lol... WarGamer Feb 2023 #4
Then... AI needs to learn your favorite subjects... WarGamer Feb 2023 #2
Like in th emovie, Interstellar. WarGamer Feb 2023 #3
I'm still waiting for the sex-bots Victor_c3 Feb 2023 #5
They say the greatest advancements in technology WarGamer Feb 2023 #6
An incel's dream. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #9
I added Chat GPT to Siri and it's 100x FreeState Feb 2023 #7
Oh, yeah. AI can now remove watermarks to allow even more theft: highplainsdem Feb 2023 #15
Shutterstock has ai FreeState Feb 2023 #23
Quick fun story. WarGamer Feb 2023 #27
It's a lost art:) FreeState Feb 2023 #31
Others who avoid social situations? They should work on social skills. highplainsdem Feb 2023 #8
I'm not QUITE at that age yet... lol WarGamer Feb 2023 #10
I'm ENFP, if you put any stock in those classifications. And I think highplainsdem Feb 2023 #21
I took the Myers-Briggs Test a couple years ago. WarGamer Feb 2023 #25
its not the nursing home it is the pre nursing home dembotoz Feb 2023 #22
Probably good for memory care, too... WarGamer Feb 2023 #26
change is coming whether folks like it or not dembotoz Feb 2023 #30
It's useless for me - it always replies "an error occurred" muriel_volestrangler Feb 2023 #11
How convincing of a liar is it? Iggo Feb 2023 #12
Next Session, Ask Your Friend: "Could God create an object so big, that even he couldn't lift it?" GGoss Feb 2023 #13
right here WarGamer Feb 2023 #14
Ask It... Does God Exist ? GGoss Feb 2023 #16
a very PC answer. WarGamer Feb 2023 #17
But ask about Stephen Hawking re: God WarGamer Feb 2023 #18
Ok... Last One: Ask It, "What Is The Best Pick-Up Line Ever Used In A Bar ?" GGoss Feb 2023 #19
gave me an eror message WarGamer Feb 2023 #24
LOL... GGoss Feb 2023 #28
I just watched M3GAN. Fascinating and eerie for sure! nolabear Feb 2023 #20
Lol! I just watched m3gan too. ecstatic Feb 2023 #29

WarGamer

(12,488 posts)
2. Then... AI needs to learn your favorite subjects...
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 07:08 PM
Feb 2023

And least favorite subjects.

Because real friends always share some of your biases, right?

Jack, according to MSN, Trump didn't throw paper towels in Ohio today, I think he'll throw toilet paper rolls this time to better fit those dainty hands

WarGamer

(12,488 posts)
3. Like in th emovie, Interstellar.
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 07:11 PM
Feb 2023

There were these AI robots who had settings for honesty, humor, things like that to better suit the companion one is looking for.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
5. I'm still waiting for the sex-bots
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 07:27 PM
Feb 2023

When I get a convincing female sex-bot, I won’t have any reason to leave my home.

FreeState

(10,585 posts)
7. I added Chat GPT to Siri and it's 100x
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 07:36 PM
Feb 2023

Better than any voice assistant I’ve used (and I’ve used most).

This is the begging of a lot of changes in the creative fields (photography etc will be fundamentally changed by AI).

highplainsdem

(49,059 posts)
15. Oh, yeah. AI can now remove watermarks to allow even more theft:
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 08:06 PM
Feb 2023
https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/daylight-robbery-ai-can-now-remove-your-watermarks-from-photos

If the war between AI and "real" photography wasn't heated enough, fuel has been added to the fire as new, free, downloadable AI-powered software has emerged with one specific purpose: to remove watermarks from images.

This is a huge problem. The lack of understanding around AI-generated art and who it belongs to is bad enough, but it is now becoming dangerous to the industry – with no repercussions to those who breach copyright by using the grey area of AI as a get-out for stealing existing image datasets or passing off recycled work as new.

Not only is it now becoming easier than ever to steal work from creatives using AI generators, but it seems almost like people are being encouraged to do so.

-snip-

As reported by CreativeBloq, removing a watermark without consent from the original copyright owner is illegal, at least in the US, but legalities are becoming a little murky when AI gets involved and rules can be difficult to enforce.

-snip-


Making stealing work from creatives easier and easier seems to be one of the major selling points of generative AI.

Dump the software on the market for free at first, get as many people as possible hooked on the delusion that they're somehow creative, and hope to escape legal consequences.

FreeState

(10,585 posts)
23. Shutterstock has ai
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 08:47 PM
Feb 2023

It’s a bit off still but they won’t need photographers and artwork will not be used by more than one purchaser. Photographers have a lot more to worry about than watermarks (unfortunately).

WarGamer

(12,488 posts)
27. Quick fun story.
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 09:05 PM
Feb 2023

When I was working as a map maker in the early 80's...

They'd need me to prepare graphics for use in prepared reports.

So I'd take a section of map and xerox it. Then I'd take another section of map and literally cut it out with scissors and glue it onto the first map. Then you xerox it again. Literally the origin of cut n paste. I'd line up the topographical lines sooo carefully and the copy would be flawless. That's what was placed in the report.

FreeState

(10,585 posts)
31. It's a lost art:)
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 09:33 PM
Feb 2023

When I was in school we had to learn how to do everything by hand and digitally. My first full time job out of college we did the design work on a computer but it was still converted to film (for everything - ads, packaging etc). So many cool tricks back then

highplainsdem

(49,059 posts)
8. Others who avoid social situations? They should work on social skills.
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 07:48 PM
Feb 2023

And it's important that the elderly and shut-ins get attention from real people. Which is also important experience for those offering that attention.

But don't worry - I'm sure the nursing homes currently understaffed because they underpay will be happy with robot staffs that can pretend to care.

WarGamer

(12,488 posts)
10. I'm not QUITE at that age yet... lol
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 07:56 PM
Feb 2023

But I completely see the use for it.

Some nursing home employee... how is she going to talk to an elderly patient about her favorite topic, Films of the 1930's... ??

And I can see the 25 year old eyes going glazed and tired after 5 minutes of that discussion.

Imagine... Good Morning Audrey, we left off yesterday talking about Gary Cooper and I told you that today, I'd tell you a story about Barbara Stanwyck. Go ahead and eat your breakfast and I'll be here waiting for you.

Me personally, I'd like to be surrounded by Mary Beard for 3 hours a day discussing ancient Rome with me... but I don't think she's available.

Of course it also depends on personality type... I'm an INTP-T so I'm probably top of the list for an AI pal.

highplainsdem

(49,059 posts)
21. I'm ENFP, if you put any stock in those classifications. And I think
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 08:36 PM
Feb 2023

robot companions are a sad substitute for real people. I'd prefer that tech be used to let that hypothetical nursing home patient chat with real people, maybe in other nursing homes, with similar interests.

I bought a robot cat for my mom near the end of her life, when her Alzheimer's had left her very confused and she missed my cat, who was anything but a tame therapy animal. I also took her video of him.

But it wasn't the same, though she was confused enough at times to think the robot cat was real.

Btw, at her nursing home the elderly residents could chat with each other about subjects that might not interest the young aides. And the young aides often found those conversations interesting.

WarGamer

(12,488 posts)
25. I took the Myers-Briggs Test a couple years ago.
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 08:58 PM
Feb 2023

For me...

It has solved a lot of questions about myself.

The characteristics fit me to a tee

dembotoz

(16,864 posts)
22. its not the nursing home it is the pre nursing home
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 08:38 PM
Feb 2023

family friend had older mom fall in the kitchen and lie there several days...almost dead but severely damaged.
20 years ago. daughter still feels guilty

simple interaction would be cool
Hi Fred, you slept late today...Feeling ok?

Hey NCIS has a new episode tonight at 9....I assume you want me to remind you...as always...

I see you took your meds and blood pressure...bp ok, no irregular heartbeat...Good


it could be tied in with family member, 911, etc
Would imagine the tech is already out there....

dembotoz

(16,864 posts)
30. change is coming whether folks like it or not
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 09:28 PM
Feb 2023

we better figure out how to make it work for us or be left in the dust

muriel_volestrangler

(101,392 posts)
11. It's useless for me - it always replies "an error occurred"
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 07:58 PM
Feb 2023

which is apparently code for "we've blocked your IP address range" (according to forums - OpenAI/ChatGPT won't admit that themselves).

I have to say, your "conversation" with it about sci-fi is no better than looking up things on Wikipedia. And we know Wikipedia is more reliable for facts. It gives you potted replies; and I think that I wouldn't say an "A student" would just give a list without some reasoning.

 

GGoss

(1,273 posts)
13. Next Session, Ask Your Friend: "Could God create an object so big, that even he couldn't lift it?"
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 08:03 PM
Feb 2023

I'd be curious to hear the response.


WarGamer

(12,488 posts)
14. right here
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 08:05 PM
Feb 2023
This question is often posed as a philosophical thought experiment and is known as the "omnipotence paradox". It asks whether a being who is omnipotent (all-powerful) can create a task that it cannot perform.

However, the paradox itself relies on a flawed premise. The concept of "lifting" assumes a physical reality and a physical body, and as a theological concept, God is generally understood to be a non-physical being. Therefore, it does not make sense to apply physical concepts to a non-physical entity like God.

In addition, the idea of an object so big that even God cannot lift it is contradictory to the definition of omnipotence. By definition, an omnipotent being can do anything that is logically possible. Creating an object so big that it cannot be lifted by an omnipotent being is a logical contradiction and thus cannot exist.

In summary, while the question is an interesting philosophical thought experiment, it relies on flawed assumptions and does not have a meaningful answer.

WarGamer

(12,488 posts)
17. a very PC answer.
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 08:10 PM
Feb 2023
The question of whether God exists is a complex and deeply personal one, and opinions on the matter vary widely across different cultures, religions, and individuals. As an AI language model, I do not have personal beliefs or opinions, and my responses are based on information and perspectives that have been presented to me through my training data.

From a philosophical standpoint, arguments both for and against the existence of God have been put forth over the centuries, often relying on ideas such as reason, evidence, faith, and personal experience. However, the question of God's existence ultimately cannot be answered definitively through logical arguments alone.

It is important to respect the diversity of beliefs and opinions on this topic and to engage in respectful and open-minded dialogue with others, regardless of one's own personal views.


This is why if you have a personal AI bot, you can instruct it to be more or less honest or more factual

WarGamer

(12,488 posts)
18. But ask about Stephen Hawking re: God
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 08:14 PM
Feb 2023
Stephen Hawking, the renowned physicist and cosmologist, was known for his contributions to the fields of theoretical physics and cosmology, particularly his work on black holes, quantum gravity, and the origins of the universe. He was also an outspoken advocate for atheism and held strong views on the role of religion in society.

Hawking famously argued in his book "The Grand Design" that the laws of physics, rather than God, provide the best explanation for the origin of the universe. He wrote that "Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing... Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist."

Hawking also believed that the concept of a personal God was not necessary to explain the workings of the universe, stating in an interview with The Guardian in 2011 that "I regard the brain as a computer which will stop working when its components fail. There is no heaven or afterlife for broken down computers; that is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark."

It is important to note, however, that while Hawking was an advocate for atheism, his views on the existence of God were not representative of all scientists or even all atheists. The question of God's existence is a deeply personal and complex one, and opinions on the matter vary widely across individuals and cultures.
 

GGoss

(1,273 posts)
19. Ok... Last One: Ask It, "What Is The Best Pick-Up Line Ever Used In A Bar ?"
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 08:21 PM
Feb 2023

Just for research, you understand.


nolabear

(42,001 posts)
20. I just watched M3GAN. Fascinating and eerie for sure!
Sun Feb 26, 2023, 08:28 PM
Feb 2023

It’s clearly cautionary re AI and our obsession with “toys” rather than dealing with the real world. And of course the careless exploitation of that. As a horror movie it was fun.

I’ve also played with ChatGPT with poetry and short stories. So far they’re interesting and awful. The thing that fascinated me (as an educated writer) is how clear the formulas it follows are and how the work reveals what the inputs are. As things get more sophisticated…well, that creeps me out a bit.

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