I'm sorry. I'm truly sorry. Why is that fucking giggling child on TV

[LuckyCharms]

acting like a 2nd grader busting balls because she knows something we don't know?

She is a jury foreman?

WHAT THE FUCK.

Her actions have the potential to be used by a good defense lawyer to the determent to the prosecution.

I know some legal eagle is going to tell me I'm wrong, but I don't care.

This shit is starting to turn into a circus.

[LiberalFighter]

1. She doesn't vote and is very naive about politics.

[montanacowboy]

19. I find that very curious that she never voted

so how in hell did she get called for the Grand Jury? Names are pulled from voter registration lists.
She also mentioned that no one wanted to be the Foreperson so she "volunteered"
I am worried this will have a negative effect on the whole thing.

[LiberalFighter]

21. Looks like Georgia goes with eligible citizens of the county.

[SCantiGOP]

47. SC switched to drivers licenses a few years ago

Maybe Georgia did too

[RandySF]

2. She has a screw loose and may have violated rules.

[Deuxcents]

3. She should have a gag order

So much time n hard work into these investigations and then she’s on tv 🤯

[brer cat]

8. I am shocked that they were not under a gag order.

The judge agreed not to release the entire report, and this idiot is spouting off about it.

[Rebl2]

17. Same here

I would hope the judge would tell her to be quiet or else face serious consequences.

[sheshe2]

23. this

Link to tweet

[catrose]

25. When I was on grand jury, we weren't allowed

To say anything to anyone about what went on there.
And the judge appointed the foreman. Probably shouldn’t say that either.

[IcyPeas]

4. Her coolest moment was shaking Rudy Guiliani's hand.

[Dorian Gray]

5. Everything is so stupid

and she's just further proof of it.

This will be used to the detriment of charging any of the people who they've said they should indict.

It's horrifying.

[Celerity]

59. Horrifying indeed.

[In It to Win It]

6. I just saw a clip of her. No one should invite her

[Raven123]

7. I agree completely

[badhair77]

9. She's a hot mess.

Ari and his guest suggested the judge will call her in for a “talking to.” Unbelievable that she’s out there having her moment as the face of the grand jury.

[RainCaster]

10. She may be stupid, but she is smart enough to be foreperson

Which has me wondering... how stupid are the other eleven?

[vanlassie]

13. She VOLUNTEERED to be forewoman according to MSNBC.

[Bev54]

14. There were 26 grand jurors, 3 of them alternates.

[RainCaster]

18. That's a lot of folks who found her superior

Shakes my head in amazement.

[jcgoldie]

53. superior to what?

She volunteered and no-one else wanted it.

[meadowlander]

55. I suspect in terms of group dynamics she's just the biggest extrovert

and on day 1 was the first/only person who put their hand up to be the foreperson. I don't think it's a commentary on her relative intelligence to anyone else.

[PufPuf23]

11. That was a short and disappointing segment on Holt NBC.

Looked as a deliberate attempt by NBC to sabotage any prosecution.

Looked like we were getting punked and laughed at.

Hope for the best and that was an awkward moment and not a message.

[dweller]

12. I wonder 🤔

Is she a Pisswig plant ?



✌🏻

[jalan48]

43. It crossed my mind as well.

[Meowmee]

15. Yep

It is puke worthy and making even more of a mockery of the justice system. Even with all of my problems I would gladly sit on any of these juries, and find a way to get through it to have at least one rational, intelligent person there.

The media again, helping to destroy our world for money.

[BigmanPigman]

16. That is EXACTLY what I thought

both times I heard and saw her speak today. Ditto...for every word of what you wrote!!! You said it better than I could.

[brettdale]

20. Maybe theres a little hope

That Fani will now indict, before this lady does anymore damage.

She reminded me of the jury member on the Michael Jackson trial, talking
about one of the victims mother who was in court, she said something along the
lines of "NO No NO lady you don't look at me like that"

[canetoad]

22. She needs to shut up

RFN. She's had her 15 minutes.

[Celerity]

61. a flamin' galah she is

[canetoad]

62. Haha

You can speak Strine!

[Celerity]

63. Been around many Aussies in the course of my life, and we almost moved to St Kilda a few years back.

Australia and New Zealand (love Grey Lynn in Auckland) are deffo still options if/when we decide to move on from Stockholm and perhaps even the EU/UK (fucking Brexit, grrr) in general. Same for Vancouver in Canada, although that is less likely.

Cannot see living in the US again (I am the only US citzen in my fam, born in Los Angeles, left as a toddler, came back for one of my uni degrees) for a long time atm. Too violent, too hateful, too racist on balance, and wifey (non US citizen, but lived with me in LA whilst I read for my MBA) is hard NO for now as well. Hong Kong is no longer an option either, unfortunately (I lived there for a few years as a child before moving back to London).

[WhiskeyGrinder]

24. What on earth were people hoping to see in this appearance?

[SoCalDavidS]

26. This Is A Side Show, And I Still Believe Teflon Man Won't Get Indicted nt

[people]

37. Will Teflon Man get indicted?

When the foreperson said there were lots of recorded calls of Donald Trump and that the most famous one was a weird one, or something like that, I wondered if the other calls were made after the famous one. Did Trump's lawyer tell Trump after his infamous call to Raffensberger to call up Rudy and others and tell them that when he made that call to Raffensberger that he wasn't serious when he asked him to find him 11,780 more votes, the lawyer knowing that those calls to would be subpoenaed and would help exonerate Trump. I now fear that the grand jury may not recommend indicting Trump, but prosecutor Willis does not have to follow that grand jury's recommendation.
I hope my thoughts about this are wrong.

[calimary]

27. I get that.

I didn’t like how she played so coy about everything. There definitely was a kind of cocky sense of “I know something you don’t know!” to her. Didn’t much care for that attitude.

[Deuxcents]

28. Lawrence ODonnell has a great show tonight..going over it bit by bit

[jcgoldie]

29. this is her 15 minutes of fame

[Meadowoak]

52. I'm sure she will have a book deal in the works.

[brooklynite]

30. She's not damaging any potential case as long as she doesn't name names...

...or report on any evidence presented.

[LuckyCharms]

33. She said that Rudy Giuliani was an "honest guy", and "interesting guy".

How does that statement not taint the upcoming "regular" Grand Jury pool?

How does that not taint a trial jury pool if Giuliani is indeed indicted by the regular grand jury?

[brooklynite]

35. She can't name whomever was recommended for indictment....

Other than that, a personal opinion that someone's an "honest guy" isn't going to carry a lot of trial weight.

[LuckyCharms]

36. If Guilani was not recommended for indictment,

and the upcoming final grand jury does not recommend his indictment, this would not preclude Giuliani being a witness in the final trial.

If Giuliani is indeed a witness in the final trial, her opinion, expressed in public, of Giuliani being "honest" could potentially influence the trial jury's opinion of his testimony.

[doc03]

48. She thinks Rudy is an "interesting" and "honest guy", has she lived under a rock the

last 6 years?

[IcyPeas]

31. Lawrence said she didn't vote in 2016 or 2020

And she had never heard the phone call of tramp asking to find 11,780 votes.

[brooklynite]

32. "I demand to know what's happening NOW!" Also: "Why are people tell me what's happening NOW?"

Folks around here are hard to please.....

[LuckyCharms]

34. I'm patient.

I don't need to know anything before indictments.

And anyone else in the general public should not know anything either.

[ShazzieB]

54. Yeah, it basically sounded like she HAS been living under a rock! 😆

But the experts on Lawrence's show didn't seem massively worried that she was going to ruin anything, so I was somewhat reassured.

[doc03]

38. I read there were 26 jurors picked and she is the person they chose

as their foreman? She is so dumb she doesn't realize the target she has on her back now.
The right-wing media and the MAGAts are going to destroy her life and maybe end it. This
will make any indictments into a circus. I can't believe this crap. Maybe the check is in the
mail.

[LuckyCharms]

39. 1) Her demeanor minimized the seriousness of the situation.

2) Her demeanor and statements planted seeds, however large or small, into the minds of the upcoming final grand jury pool.

3) Her appearance placed her at personal risk.

4) She stated that Rudy Giuliani was "honest" and "interesting". Even if Giuliani is not indicted, he could still be a witness in the jury trial of those indicted, and her statements potentially influenced future trial jurors as to the honesty of Giuliani's testimony if he ends up being a witness in the trial.

I can't believe it either!

[doc03]

42. The minute I saw her I thought of Ruth in the Ozark series. I don't know maybe

that is the best they have in Georgia.

[LuckyCharms]

46. I'm not familiar with the series, doc03,

and I'm not a lawyer.

But I have been on a grand jury, and I've been a jury foreman in a trial case, both in New York State.

It was drilled into our heads that under no circumstances are we to discuss our experiences, in any manner, until a legal conclusion was reached.

I have no idea what's going on in Georgia.

[Nevilledog]

58. This 👇

Link to tweet

Tweet text:

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Folks, the Georgia grand juror oath only requires jurors to keep “deliberations” secret. That’s very narrow. It’s unnecessary for the foreperson to be doing these interviews, but it’s not a viable avenue for appeal. Stop obsessing.
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It’s sort of amazing how immediately after a grand juror gives an interview suggesting the former president may be charged with a crime, the mainstream media goes straight to, “wow, Trump may get off the hook after all.” Both sides-ism has become a literal reflex.
7:39 PM · Feb 21, 2023

[democrank]

40. Saw a brief clip of an interview with her today.

I found this temporary flash of fame in the middle of such profoundly important issues, to be most disturbing. Could interviews with this foreperson cause difficulties for the prosecution down the line? Perhaps someone will explain to her why she might want to consider zipping it. It seemed to me that she might not have grasped what a big deal this is for our country….given her smiles and all.

[brettdale]

41. CNN shouldnt

Have had her on. What were they thinking.

[brooklynite]

50. "what were they thinking"

That, she was willing to be interviewed (apparently legally) about a major news story? Which is what they exist for?

[AverageOldGuy]

44. Airhead

We are almost 80; wife retired after 35 years as high school teacher, I retired from Army with 28 years, worked for a faith-based non-profit for several years.

I follow politics much more closely than does my wife. I had heard that someone on the GA grand jury had given an interview.

Tonight we turned on Lawrence O'Donnell just in time to see the clips of the young woman. I was aghast!! I could not believe what I was seeing, I though surely I've turned to the wrong channel and this is an episode of Friends, or Seinfeld.

Then she described her service on the grand jury as "cool" -- and that was the point when my wife described her with one word: "AIRHEAD".

I'm really concerned that she may have sunk any possible indictments.

[Skittles]

64. I've seen some folk describe her as "delightful"

that is disturbing too

[jalan48]

45. Is she getting paid for the interviews?

[AZLD4Candidate]

49. For those not in the loops, please explain what is happening and what this is about.

[LuckyCharms]

51. Of course, I'm sorry for the somewhat cryptic OP.

This has to do with the "special grand jury" that was convened due to the impending assumed indictment(s) and attempted prosecution in the state of Georgia concerning Trump and Company's involvement in the election process during the last presidential election.

The thought is that Trump and several others are facing prosecution in Georgia for trying to influence the vote count in that state.

Step 1: A special grand jury to recommend indictments to a "regular" grand jury.

Step 2: Regular grand jury to recommend final indictments.

Step 3: Trial jury to determine guilt of those indicted.

Step one has been completed, and today, the foreman of the special grand jury was on national newscasts, in a light-hearted mood, revealing information about what occurred during the special grand jury process.

The debate right now on DU and by the talking heads on TV is whether she compromised steps 2 and 3 by what she revealed.

[progree]

56. Tee hee, you know what I mean? (giggle)

I'm sorry, I was going to make some incisive legal analysis comments, but after watching the Lawrence O'Donell segment https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017807089

I've devolved into a state of mental nothingness, you know what I mean? (giggle)

[OnDoutside]

57. Stunning.

I'll have what she's having.... still, donnie must be apoplectic

One thing, I fear for her immediate future, as she's now going to be target no 1 of the Magas