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phylny

(8,428 posts)
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 02:39 PM Feb 2023

2/14: Mother is shot dead in front of children by a stranger after fight in supermarket parking lot

I’m sorry if this was already posted, I searched and did not see it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/alexandria-borys-obituary-murder-south-carolina-b2285298.html

A mother was fatally shot in front of her children after an argument with a stranger in a South Carolina supermarket parking lot on Valentine’s Day.

Alexandria Cress Borys, 26, was loading groceries into her car outside a Kroger in Irmo on Tuesday afternoon when the argument erupted between her and another woman, her husband Tyler Borys told Fox57.

Shortly after the altercation ended, Alexandria was shot in the back while her children, a two-year-old and an infant, sat in the car. The mother was pronounced dead at the scene at around 4pm.

The shooter was later identified by police as 23-year-old Christina Harrison.



This is why my husband and I never engage with anyone who has an anger issue. You want to take my parking spot? Go ahead. Give me the finger when I’m driving on the road? Feel free to pass me.

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2/14: Mother is shot dead in front of children by a stranger after fight in supermarket parking lot (Original Post) phylny Feb 2023 OP
So tragic, yet something to keep in mind when dealing with angry strangers. CrispyQ Feb 2023 #1
'Don't engage' is pretty much my policy anymore EYESORE 9001 Feb 2023 #2
"Alexandria's death came just six days after her younger brother Brandon was fatally shot." jalan48 Feb 2023 #3
I was just about to post "WERE they 'strangers?'" Rocknation Feb 2023 #22
So tragic for the family, especially the kids jalan48 Feb 2023 #41
"well-regulated militia" engaging in "self-protection" strikes again (n/t) MissMillie Feb 2023 #4
"well-regulated militia" has nothing to do with who can own guns. friend of a friend Feb 2023 #10
Post removed Post removed Feb 2023 #18
It most definitely does and anyone who does even a Phoenix61 Feb 2023 #32
It takes more than just a cursory study to learn what the writers meant. friend of a friend Feb 2023 #47
If the "well-regulated militia" were not relevant MissMillie Feb 2023 #51
What I meant was The Supreme Court said that the rights of the people to bear arms friend of a friend Feb 2023 #52
Yes, you can do what you can to avoid these "ragers" but it doesn't always work. hlthe2b Feb 2023 #5
I am so sorry that happened to you hlthe2b Diamond_Dog Feb 2023 #7
Thanks Diamond_Dog. IF there is any good to come out of it, I think of the episode every time hlthe2b Feb 2023 #9
Omg XanaDUer2 Feb 2023 #12
I'm old school. Back when I was younger, if I got into a dispute with a guy panader0 Feb 2023 #15
Yep, thats the thing...everyone with weapon of mass death to solve disputes in between Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #35
So true. Diamond_Dog Feb 2023 #39
He was arrested, that's as far as I remember. Diamond_Dog Feb 2023 #31
Yes this happened in the 80s XanaDUer2 Feb 2023 #38
Foreigners, do not come to American red states for vacation, angry brainwashed and Gun happy. Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #33
Wow, a woman shooter. maxsolomon Feb 2023 #6
yes Celerity Feb 2023 #17
I know GenThePerservering Feb 2023 #49
Guns are the new middle finger. n/t Mr.Bill Feb 2023 #8
It is a shame what rethugs and gunhumpers have allowed America to become. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2023 #11
A GoFundMe page has been created in the name of the victim. lpbk2713 Feb 2023 #13
I hope they throw the book at the killer XanaDUer2 Feb 2023 #14
Another victim jayschool2013 Feb 2023 #16
Another day in America. Bristlecone Feb 2023 #19
Good thing Christina had a firearm gratuitous Feb 2023 #20
Those poor kids. pandr32 Feb 2023 #21
America is a Gun aggiesal Feb 2023 #23
On Valentine's Day. See local SC coverage here.... KY_EnviroGuy Feb 2023 #24
A 23-year old with a gun. Grins Feb 2023 #25
In America!... cause everyone, everywhere..has a Gun! Alexander Of Assyria Feb 2023 #37
"She died just under a week after her brother also died from an unrelated gunshot wound." OMG rainin Feb 2023 #26
I wouldn't. Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #30
making international news republianmushroom Feb 2023 #27
I don't honk at anyone in traffic. If I'm not sure who was first at a 4 way stop... 3catwoman3 Feb 2023 #28
I try to smile and have a cheerful expression when out driving Kaleva Feb 2023 #40
Somewhat off-topic, but I never turn left right away... 3catwoman3 Feb 2023 #42
The nearest traffic light is 45 miles away to the north Kaleva Feb 2023 #44
You must not have much trouble... 3catwoman3 Feb 2023 #45
No but there are a lot of people with guns here Kaleva Feb 2023 #46
And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free ... Sky Jewels Feb 2023 #29
Is this that "polite society" the gun nuts are always going on about? kimmylavin Feb 2023 #34
God forbid you stand up for yourself in this Country perdita9 Feb 2023 #36
Apparently one was almost hit by the other who was driving Kaleva Feb 2023 #43
I'm confused XanaDUer2 Feb 2023 #48
You're right -- clearly, not all the facts are in yet Rocknation Feb 2023 #50
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2023 #53
Welcome to DU sarisataka Feb 2023 #54
geez. The wome shot the other woman in the Back!! riversedge Feb 2023 #55

CrispyQ

(36,945 posts)
1. So tragic, yet something to keep in mind when dealing with angry strangers.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 02:43 PM
Feb 2023

A lot of lives are going to be different forever. Those two kids.

Rocknation

(44,635 posts)
22. I was just about to post "WERE they 'strangers?'"
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:26 PM
Feb 2023

If the car was already parked and being loaded, what was there to argue about?

Then I read your post -- and smelled the possibility of a connection. Hooray for me...


Rocknation

 

friend of a friend

(367 posts)
10. "well-regulated militia" has nothing to do with who can own guns.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:26 PM
Feb 2023

This is why grammar and especially commas are so important.

Response to friend of a friend (Reply #10)

Phoenix61

(17,159 posts)
32. It most definitely does and anyone who does even a
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 05:24 PM
Feb 2023

cursory study to learn what the writers meant would know that. It was never meant as an individual right.

 

friend of a friend

(367 posts)
47. It takes more than just a cursory study to learn what the writers meant.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 08:36 PM
Feb 2023

It takes a knowledge of historical linguistics to understand the meaning. If it was written in the English of today, it would be easier to understand. But for now, it doesn't matter what the Founding Fathers meant when the 2nd Amendment was written, the only thing that matters is what The Supreme Court says it means.

MissMillie

(38,733 posts)
51. If the "well-regulated militia" were not relevant
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 07:40 PM
Feb 2023

the framers would not have added the phrase.

The Constitution is famous for being sparse on words--on purpose.

 

friend of a friend

(367 posts)
52. What I meant was The Supreme Court said that the rights of the people to bear arms
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 09:07 PM
Feb 2023

is independent of service in a state militia. They said that the first part about the militia is prefatory or an introduction and the second part about people owning guns is the operative clause. It does not matter what the writers of the Constitution meant about any part of it, it is the Supreme Court that has the final say in the matter. The Supreme Court did not rule that the 2nd Amendment was absolute otherwise people would be able to own any weapon they want.

hlthe2b

(103,309 posts)
5. Yes, you can do what you can to avoid these "ragers" but it doesn't always work.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 02:56 PM
Feb 2023

I remember years ago being in heavy traffic at a stoplight in the turn lane behind a large transport truck. As I was in a compact car, I could not even see the stoplight but could only hug the bumper of the truck and hope to make it through when the turn light was lit when the truck moved, since they were the only one in front of me at the light and there was a line of traffic waiting to turn behind me. Well, he took his damned time, and apparently, traffic facing us had seen the light turn green for them so by the time I got through one driver had to pause a moment to let me finish the turn. He ran half a block away to catch me caught at the next stoplight tried to open my door and was screaming incoherently. I motioned at the truck still in front of me and motioned that I couldn't see around it. Fortunately, this guy wasn't so beyond reasoning not to immediately recognize what had happened and that it obviously could happen to him as well and he gave a grudging "sorry" and drove off. But he certainly could have shot me, had he been armed before digesting anything I had to say.


The episode of the 23 yo woman who shot the mother is beyond horrific. Damned guns--without them at least there might have been a chance.

Diamond_Dog

(32,785 posts)
7. I am so sorry that happened to you hlthe2b
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:16 PM
Feb 2023

I am always telling my husband the same thing, don’t engage with these psychos. For men, it’s harder not to get the last word in. You must have been plenty rattled for sure after that happened. I can’t imagine an angry stranger trying to open my car door!

A friend of ours was taking another friend home from chemotherapy a few years ago - this was in the Pittsburgh area - traffic was very heavy at the time and she had to merge into traffic from the left, up ahead was a toll booth maybe a mile ahead.

Well apparently and unknowingly she cut in too close for some hot head who felt that “she cut me off” so when she stopped in line the toll booth this psycho got out of his car, stomped over to her drivers side window, and motioned for her to roll the window down. Thinking he was in trouble for some reason, she rolled her window down, and this jerk without a word punched her right in the face!

Fortunately they were surrounded by a sea of cars at the toll booth, several people called the police, and the guy was apprehended and arrested. She was bruised up pretty good but made a full recovery.

And you never know when or if they’ll pull out a gun ….



hlthe2b

(103,309 posts)
9. Thanks Diamond_Dog. IF there is any good to come out of it, I think of the episode every time
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:22 PM
Feb 2023

I'm tempted to engage with some of these strangers--no matter how "in the right" I think I was.

XanaDUer2

(11,546 posts)
12. Omg
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:43 PM
Feb 2023

What happened to the puncher?

I had a nut in Miami try to kill me bc I didn't drive over a drawbridge until the light went green. His wife and baby were in the car. My friend gave them the finger like an asshole, so he went nuts. Fancy sports car.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
15. I'm old school. Back when I was younger, if I got into a dispute with a guy
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:04 PM
Feb 2023

we'd go outside and duke it out. Impossible now, first I'm too old, and second, everyone has a gun now.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
35. Yep, thats the thing...everyone with weapon of mass death to solve disputes in between
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 05:28 PM
Feb 2023

the heroism of keeping he castle safe and the government from tyranny.

100 Gun Deaths a day is the small price to pay to water the tree of liberty!

Gunners are the same cloth as MTGs.

Diamond_Dog

(32,785 posts)
31. He was arrested, that's as far as I remember.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 05:11 PM
Feb 2023

There were plenty of witnesses so I assume he had to serve some time behind bars.

What an awful experience for you, these days sometimes it seems like everyone is out on the warpath! Yikes.

GenThePerservering

(2,095 posts)
49. I know
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 12:30 PM
Feb 2023

women are traditionally the voice of sanity - that goes for pretty much any sector of society, even if some of us are nutso - now we're acting like man-babies.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,216 posts)
11. It is a shame what rethugs and gunhumpers have allowed America to become.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:42 PM
Feb 2023

And "shame" is too kind a word.

lpbk2713

(42,901 posts)
13. A GoFundMe page has been created in the name of the victim.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 03:46 PM
Feb 2023


Link: https://www.gofundme.com/f/alexandrias-memorial

She leaves behind a tiny baby who will never get to know his mother.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
20. Good thing Christina had a firearm
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:17 PM
Feb 2023

Otherwise, this could have just been some angry words yelled back and forth and a couple of people would have just had a bad day. This way, the nation loses a mother and gains a killer. Because that's totally what the Founding Fathers and Republican Jesus want for us. All praise to the Rifle, the Gun and the MX Missile in the High Church of Redemptive Violence.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,540 posts)
24. On Valentine's Day. See local SC coverage here....
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:31 PM
Feb 2023
26-year-old mother shot by stranger after argument in grocery store parking lot
WMBF News
By Andrew Fancher and Debra Worley
Published: Feb. 17, 2023

Link: https://www.wmbfnews.com/2023/02/17/26-year-old-mother-shot-by-stranger-after-argument-grocery-store-parking-lot/

Snips....
IRMO, S.C. (WIS/Gray News) – A 26-year-old mother was shot and killed by a stranger outside a Kroger grocery store in South Carolina on Valentine’s Day. Tyler Borys told WIS his wife, Alexandria Borys, was grocery shopping with her sister-in-law, niece and nephew.

As they were loading groceries into the car, he said an argument started in the parking lot between Alexandria Borys and a woman who was later identified as 23-year-old Christina Harrison.
-----
Harrison has since been charged with murder, unlawful carrying of a pistol and possession of a firearm during a violent crime.

She died just under a week after her brother also died from an unrelated gunshot wound.

At least two more American family's lives long-term deeply impacted by selfish, self-centered gun-totin' fools.....


RIP..........

Grins

(7,445 posts)
25. A 23-year old with a gun.
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:34 PM
Feb 2023

In a verbal argument. Who then shoots another. In the back.

Why does a 23-year old woman go shopping with a gun?

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
37. In America!... cause everyone, everywhere..has a Gun!
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 05:31 PM
Feb 2023

Need the Gun to protect me from the other Guys with a Gun.

The crazy goes round and round like a revolver

rainin

(3,019 posts)
26. "She died just under a week after her brother also died from an unrelated gunshot wound." OMG
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 04:38 PM
Feb 2023

How does this family survive this? I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to continue living

3catwoman3

(24,481 posts)
28. I don't honk at anyone in traffic. If I'm not sure who was first at a 4 way stop...
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 05:03 PM
Feb 2023

...I wave other drivers thru before proceeding.

I've never been the confrontational sort, so it's not hard to keep myself in check.

Kaleva

(36,808 posts)
40. I try to smile and have a cheerful expression when out driving
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 05:53 PM
Feb 2023

Like you, I wave others through if I'm not sure who has the right if way or if it appears the other person doesn't know

3catwoman3

(24,481 posts)
42. Somewhat off-topic, but I never turn left right away...
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 06:03 PM
Feb 2023

…when the left turn green arrow comes on, because i know at least 3 people, and probably 5, are going to run the red light.

Kaleva

(36,808 posts)
44. The nearest traffic light is 45 miles away to the north
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 06:11 PM
Feb 2023

Going east, it's about a 100 mile trip before I come to my first traffic light.

There are warning lights closer. One 12 miles to the west and there's another one 20 miles to the south

Kaleva

(36,808 posts)
46. No but there are a lot of people with guns here
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 07:44 PM
Feb 2023

So I try to practice what I mentioned earlier where I'm at so when I make a trip to the bigger towns, I'm not having to remind myself to do it as it hopefully will be automatic.

Sky Jewels

(7,344 posts)
29. And I'm proud to be an American, where at least I know I'm free ...
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 05:06 PM
Feb 2023

to get gunned down if dare go buy groceries, or go to the movies, or go to the gym, or attend classes, or go to the post office, or visit the mall, or stand on some random street corner...

Kaleva

(36,808 posts)
43. Apparently one was almost hit by the other who was driving
Tue Feb 21, 2023, 06:06 PM
Feb 2023

This escalated into a confrontation.

"Dale’s agency has not specified what precipitated the “verbal altercation.” Sources familiar with the shooting say it all started when a vehicle not involved in the dispute pulled into a fire lane near a liquor store adjacent to the Kroger. This vehicle is said to have obstructed the view of one of the two participants in the argument – a driver whose car nearly struck the other participant (a pedestrian) as they were walking into oncoming traffic.

After this near-collision, words and gestures were reportedly exchanged – "

https://www.fitsnews.com/2023/02/19/south-carolina-grocery-store-slaying-outrage-abounds/

XanaDUer2

(11,546 posts)
48. I'm confused
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 12:24 PM
Feb 2023

I read the article. A person parked in the fire lane who had nothing to do with the altercation? But it ended up with shooting a person in their back who was loading groceries and not even driving. Its confusing

Rocknation

(44,635 posts)
50. You're right -- clearly, not all the facts are in yet
Wed Feb 22, 2023, 03:34 PM
Feb 2023

But there is allegedly street surveillance video that is yet to be released.


Rocknation

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