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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:35 PM Nov 2012

According to a FB friend

"Well, at least we can all follow Romney's example of public service and begin to engage more in our own communities. A good place to start"

That to me is an incredibly bizarre statement!

I suspect she got some mormon targeted ads or something. The really sad thing is that she has adopted 2 children who are black.
It's very McCainish to support a candidate who put up with a racist constituency, despite having at least 2 major reasons to be offended.

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According to a FB friend (Original Post) loyalsister Nov 2012 OP
WTF? That is bizarre rightsideout Nov 2012 #1
No kidding! loyalsister Nov 2012 #11
Romney also harassed a woman who needed an abortion csziggy Nov 2012 #23
I think people SHOULD engage in public service Marrah_G Nov 2012 #2
Exactly loyalsister Nov 2012 #6
What the hell are they talking about? GoCubsGo Nov 2012 #3
This! lol loyalsister Nov 2012 #26
Maybe you need to restate: JustFiveMoreMinutes Nov 2012 #4
Thanks! loyalsister Nov 2012 #5
Ask her for some examples. Indpndnt Nov 2012 #7
She is an old HS friend loyalsister Nov 2012 #9
That is as mystifying as when they say romney has integrity. cyndensco Nov 2012 #8
No kidding! loyalsister Nov 2012 #13
Then again loyalsister Nov 2012 #19
But whatever you do, don't *gasp* ORGANIZE your communities! arcane1 Nov 2012 #10
you beat me to posting that sentiment, but I wholeheartedly agree. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2012 #15
Unless loyalsister Nov 2012 #16
But I don't want to be a vulture capitalist! Nor a Mormon missionary! sinkingfeeling Nov 2012 #12
Public service? In your community? In organized fashion? Community organizer. Great idea! DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2012 #14
lol I was tempted to posting something to that effect loyalsister Nov 2012 #17
In "our own" communities. Hmmm. Like Romney. What could that mean? Care Acutely Nov 2012 #18
I missed that one at first loyalsister Nov 2012 #20
That's because you don't think like them. None of us do. When we seek to help Care Acutely Nov 2012 #22
The sneaky lie behind the GOP view Spike89 Nov 2012 #21
In 2008 after Pres Obama won his first term, he asked madmom Nov 2012 #24
I think this plays into the idea many people are liberal Johonny Nov 2012 #25
I think that is true to some extent loyalsister Nov 2012 #30
It is about this: Romney 28 years of unpaid service to his country Tennessee Gal Nov 2012 #27
There it is. loyalsister Nov 2012 #28
It is not true. It is quite silly. nt Tennessee Gal Nov 2012 #29

rightsideout

(978 posts)
1. WTF? That is bizarre
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:41 PM
Nov 2012

Obama was a community activist. Romney never came close.

His only activism was chasing down gay kids and assaulting them.

csziggy

(34,113 posts)
23. Romney also harassed a woman who needed an abortion
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:46 PM
Nov 2012

For medical reasons and told her she shouldn't do it.

As a young bishop, Romney got word that Carroll Shelton, a woman in his ward, was considering an abortion. This was Shelton's sixth pregnancy. She was in her 40s, had four teenage children and had developed medical complications. Her stake president had already approved the procedure when Romney arrived at the hospital and forcefully counseled her against it.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2012-03-28/mitt-romney-mormon-bishop/53836844/1

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
2. I think people SHOULD engage in public service
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:42 PM
Nov 2012

HOWEVER, I think they should do something that benefits the people of their communities, rather then trying to convince French folks to give up wine.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
6. Exactly
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:00 PM
Nov 2012

I have a sneaking suspicion this was targeted info because she is a mormon. It's part of the mormon narrative he did not want to widely display for fear of losing the mainstream religious voters.
Not that it would be anything more than talking women out of abortions, setting up adoptions, and offering grants to exclusive mormon community organizations.

GoCubsGo

(32,031 posts)
3. What the hell are they talking about?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:46 PM
Nov 2012

Engage more in our communities like Romney? Why? Because he threw some money a sick person's way once, something for which he is still patting himself on the back all these years later?

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
26. This! lol
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 01:41 AM
Nov 2012

The best response she got. "I think it will be more amusing for me to imagine that you're following Obama's example of public service. You know, the whole "community organizer" thing."
IOW
Bless your little heart, you're talking about the president.

JustFiveMoreMinutes

(2,133 posts)
4. Maybe you need to restate:
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 01:48 PM
Nov 2012

"The really sad thing is that she has adopted 2 children who are black."

Can be taken wrong.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
7. Ask her for some examples.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:04 PM
Nov 2012

I'd love to hear what she's been fed. Romney, a public servant? It boggles the mind.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
9. She is an old HS friend
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:17 PM
Nov 2012

I see no reason to push it, though. I did say that I never heard about it in his campaign, though.
Earlier I exchanged some mail about the murder of Trayvon Martin. I was curious as to how she had explained to her son the important details about driving that her other kids and his cousins weren't likely to need to hear. I got a sort of self congratulatory "we don't treat him any differently than our other kids" so that they have the same parental and family support.

cyndensco

(1,697 posts)
8. That is as mystifying as when they say romney has integrity.
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:06 PM
Nov 2012

Talk about existing in an alternate reality!

Of course, they also expected a landslide win....glad it is us who are living in the real world.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
19. Then again
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:45 PM
Nov 2012

Maybe they manipulated all of Obama's literature about being a community activist and applied it to romney. It's clear the he is comfortable with lying.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
14. Public service? In your community? In organized fashion? Community organizer. Great idea!
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:25 PM
Nov 2012

Too bad the right wing is still criticizing the good community work the president did in 25 years ago.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
17. lol I was tempted to posting something to that effect
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:33 PM
Nov 2012

But, I didn't want to create conflict on a FB page. I would probably have been outnumbered significantly.

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
18. In "our own" communities. Hmmm. Like Romney. What could that mean?
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 02:36 PM
Nov 2012

With Romney we know what it means - it means "that go to my church" and nobody else.

Care Acutely

(1,370 posts)
22. That's because you don't think like them. None of us do. When we seek to help
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:20 PM
Nov 2012

people, we just want to help people. They want to control who gets help, and then they want absolute control of how those people are allowed to use that help, and they want those people to be sufficiently humiliated for needing any help in the first place.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
21. The sneaky lie behind the GOP view
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 03:16 PM
Nov 2012

On its face, they have a point. Giving directly to local community charities does do a good job of targeting the specific needs of the community. I both commend and acknowledge that point of view and the fact that Republicans as a group do contribute to charities at least on a par with Democrats. There will always be the need for private, direct, community-based giving.

The sneaky lie is that because private giving is the most effective means in some (or even many) instances, public (government) programs are not needed. There are huge problems with a private-only community safety net. The most obvious is that our communities are and always have been fairly discrete and highly segregated by income. Not many 1% earners live next door to the struggling family hoping for enough cash to run the furnace this month. Hard hit communities (think Detroit under Bush Jr.) can be overwhelmed--there simply aren't enough people willing/able to give enough.

Not every group needing help has the marketing ability or, frankly, the appeal to compete for direct giving. For instance, it isn't hard to make an inspiring video asking people to feed starving babies, or rescue abused kitties and puppies. Wonderful causes, much needed, and undeniably heartwrenching. But we also need drug and alcohol rehab centers, homeless shelters, and many other things that help the "less photogenic".

We need a public safety net, especially for those outside the mainstream community. From a purely ROI standpoint, it is cheaper and easier to publicly fund transient and homeless nutritional needs than it is to hire enough police to protect us and incarcerate the starving masses that would be reduced to stealing food. The anti-public school bunch always ignore this aspect--it is cheaper to keep kids in school than it is to deal with the problems that all those kids running around without direction would cause.

The worse thing about the sneaky lie is that it totally ignores just how well the private and public roles can work together. When more of a community's basic needs are assured by the government, more of that community's private giving can be directed toward the things that community really values. For instance, if most of the people in a town are at least assured of getting enough food through federal programs, the local charities might be able to focus on supporting low-income housing, or other things specific to that town.

madmom

(9,681 posts)
24. In 2008 after Pres Obama won his first term, he asked
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:47 PM
Nov 2012

his OFA volunteers to stay organized and start helping their communities. The group in my town did. We started a volunteer organization that is still going strong. Along with that several of us have become best friends.

Johonny

(20,412 posts)
25. I think this plays into the idea many people are liberal
Thu Nov 8, 2012, 04:50 PM
Nov 2012

they just don't know it. We find it funny so many conservatives talk about things from a liberal perspective but don't see it as liberalism. They attribute qualities that aren't actually in the Republican party and find defects that don't exist in the Democratic party. If you've talked to a lot of Republican voters it isn't uncommon. I think the key is usually there is ONE issue that holds them back and then they fill in the world they want around that idea. A big one is obviously R A C E.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
30. I think that is true to some extent
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 08:43 PM
Nov 2012

But it doesn't translate. Is it a "liberal" to call a food drive or toy donation at a church and deliver it to people who they want to convert? Is it "liberal" to brag about charity donations used to get a tax break?
Then support laws that limit the reproductive choices of women, oppose health care for all?

I think there is a difference between having some charitable inclinations and being liberal.

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