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WhiskeyGrinder
(22,931 posts)about what this person talks about. The flip side is the weaponization of white women's tears -- once a white women starts crying in a discussion about race, the conversation is over, because you made her uncomfortable.
appmanga
(712 posts)...what should be an overarching term has been reduced. Having "white supremacy" pretty much associated as something that belongs to the most extreme racists has left us reaching for the more adequate term in its stead, and we wound up with "white privilege".
Latter day white supremacists like Ron DeSantis, Taylor-Green, Gaetz, Boebert, Gosar, et al, willingly wear the term "white supremacist" as if it were a shield because so many people see it as extreme rather than accurate. All of the people I mentioned have admitted white ethnocentricy drives their politics and personal philosophies, and they're committed to restoring it as government policy. The people who vote for them have no issue with that, while there are those who strongly oppose them but who would still harbor certain supremacist beliefs such as a black person cannot be more intelligent than a white peer, or other such indoctrinations.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,931 posts)White supremacy is the culture we live in and many of our systems and institutions are built on it.
malaise
(272,393 posts)Thanks for posting it
I'm black and never thought about this either, but then I live in the Caribbean.
rubbersole
(7,371 posts)I'm a white male. But, full disclosure, I live in Florida.
malaise
(272,393 posts)Could not live there😀
Evolve Dammit
(17,508 posts)Rebl2
(14,097 posts)to visit in early 80s. I didnt even like it then!
Evolve Dammit
(17,508 posts)enjoyable. More sprawl and strip development. They ruined it.
Celerity
(45,480 posts)Evolve Dammit
(17,508 posts)malaise
(272,393 posts)Not sure Ill ever leave JA again and I used to travel once or twice a year. Decided to boycott after the Slobfathers inauguration and then Covid arrived. Cant be bothered with the travel inconvenience these days.
Evolve Dammit
(17,508 posts)malaise
(272,393 posts)but I cant be bothered these days. G
Let me add that this is no paradise what with crime and inflation but its my shithole spot and I understand it.
Evolve Dammit
(17,508 posts)but pretty tolerable. Per capita, less nutjobs than red states.
plane definitely a nightmare I would think. Havent been on a plane in many years now.
Not since 2016 😀
appmanga
(712 posts)...I won't be going there.
Arkansas Granny
(31,637 posts)She was born and raised in Minneapolis, Minnesota. During WWII she moved to Fort Worth, TX, to work in the defense industry. She was pretty naive when it came to race relations and the bigotry and racism she saw were very disturbing to her. She told us of her experience to make sure that we understood the unfairness that she had witnessed.
malaise
(272,393 posts)Explains you
Lonestarblue
(10,768 posts)I havent started reading it yet, but the book is about how white feminism has harmed black people. The author explains her use of white tears as a way for white women especially to turn the conversation from racism to avoid others forcing them to be uncomfortable. Some definitions the author uses (from the Prologue):
While often used to denote the skin color of Europeans in relation to Native Americans and (enslaved) Africans, white is better understood as an indication of racial privilege: who is considered white is less about how pale they are and more about whether they are the right kind of pale.
Whiteness is the privileging of those racial, cultural, and religious identities that most resemble the typical characteristics associated with fair-skinned (Western) Europeans. Consequently, the terms white and people of color are not descriptivethey are political.
Biophilic
(4,124 posts)It also explains so much of what is happening especially in Florida. White comfort, it explains a lot. I just have to sit here and think about it.
hunter
(38,593 posts)orleans
(34,316 posts)when it comes onto my computer the bottom of the video is cut off (same way tiktok always shows up on my desktop). it seems like it cut off abruptly when i watched it from the twitter repost--just wondering if there is any more to it.
crickets
(26,135 posts)The thought of having to self-censor my book collection, potentially as a matter of life and death... this video definitely gave me a lot to think about.
malaise
(272,393 posts)Europe, Argentina, Brazil, Yuraquay
crickets
(26,135 posts)uponit7771
(90,668 posts)... his white teachers or students.
We gonna change some shit ...
plimsoll
(1,684 posts)I'm always struck by the slave schedules. It served so many purposes; it dehumanized, it obliterated a past and family. It is also another example of protecting white comfort. All you had to do was inventory those black folks, no reason to discomfort yourself by acknowledging that you had actual living, breathing, thinking, feeling people subjugated.
malaise
(272,393 posts)A lot of Caribbean folks make their kids finish high school in the Caribbean for said reason and they excel and thrive in US and other foreign universities/colleges. Racism destroys self esteem early.
Ive seen it with some of my US born nieces and nephews.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,618 posts)It's on HULU if anyone has access and hasn't seen it.
SunSeeker
(52,687 posts)It's really mind boggling how much they've gone out of their way to lie about the 1619 Project or otherwise try to discredit it.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,618 posts)because of assholes like tucker carlson feeding them bullcrap about it. If someone honestly sits and watches it, they won't feel threatened. The series doesn't try to shame as much as explain. If it makes someone feel ashamed, they need to stop and look at themselves.
soldierant
(7,439 posts)in the sense of truth "making white kids uncomfortable" - my first reaction was "Who the [expletive] do we think we are that we can't ever be made uncomfortable?" Of course the question answers itself - we think we are the masters of the universe. Well, we are not.
And of course @highlyvibey is correct that for centuries we had (and some of us still do) life and death power to enforce white comfort. How any white person with a heart and a brain can fail to see that - and fail tofeel discomfort over it - is beyond me, White people need to grow the eff up - and discomfort is a part of growing up. W need to embrace it.
malaise
(272,393 posts)This song which was Haile Selassie's address to the United Nations, 1963 needs an update - it's not just Africa - this white supremacy madness must cease.
soldierant
(7,439 posts)To make sure iI was getting the full message I looked up the lyrics.
https://genius.com/Bob-marley-and-the-wailers-war-lyrics
And you are so right - it is everywhere, and certainly not least in the US.
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IbogaProject
(3,091 posts)Thank you all for this informative thread.
I grew up in an integrated town in a historic area active in abolition and the underground railroad. I have some 'home work' ahead with this video and the mentioned 1619 project videos. I missed seeing roots as TV was very limited for me and I guess Mom and Dad didn't think it was ok for a third grader. I only saw some of it recently. I've seen some movies involving slavery more recently. Any ways I was always aware of racism partially as I saw the white side and felt it to be so stupid and repulsive. The black experience itself I never really got a lot of perspective on. My black hatian room mate and good friend in college mentioned the extra calculations he had to take in his head in social situations. I wasn't aware of that growing up. I hadn't ever considered how long American slavery and Jim Crow were most of our history. And now we are still dealing with economic bias caused by the red-lining started in the 1930s and the uneven application of social security tax and how those revenues are funneled to select groups. That one well meaning oversight has hollowed out communities across America. I understand that one as I was an economics major.
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