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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn reference to McGonigal and question: Why now?
Joohn Choe:
["Thanks _____, I read the Snyder thread yesterday. What is coming out on McGonigal and Deripaska is what we were relatively certain was there, (even though his role with Deripaska was not known specifically to us) and the fact that it is coming out now is what I was hoping for when I wrote about the need for a counterintelligence investigation of the Freedom Caucus and MAGA leadership after the election.
Its happening because a faction of the national security establishment is terrified of these types being on these Committees and having top security clearance, and their stated intent to blind US intelligence. So they are blowing it up now, escalating. Plus these guys are threatening to cut off the aid to Ukraine, openly repeating Kremlin talking points about Ukraine's government, calling for "peace" by pushing partition. So, the combo of the McGonigal scandal, and the NY Times thing on Durham/Trump is all being brought out now. It's funny how everyone is describing these revelations as "suspicious." It's intelligence warfare and the things coming out now have been sitting in the icebox all along waiting for the right moment to be taken out. Where there's ice, there was water."]
I might add that the media has not helped with their crappy coverage. They have misrepresented the removal of Schiff from the House Intelligence Committee as GOP revenge demanded by Trump loyalists for the Impeachments in which he played a lead role. The big picture which is not addressed is that Schiff got his start as a Federal prosecutor who investigated the Russian Mafia, money laundering and is as knowledgeable about Putin's intelligence warfare operations as anyone alive. His removal is part of the Russian operation to blind and misdirect US intelligence on their behalf, to further their full array of asymmetric warfare. It's not a petty "revenge tour" performance to make Trump happy. It's designed to protect Trump and the GOP MAGA leadership who participated in January 6th, and further Putin's geo-strategic goals.
Aside from the obvious, why remove Schiff and try to defund the FBI, and why put Trump's eyes and ears, MTG on the Homeland Security Committee? Because they are planning new and more dangerous January 6 type events, in DC and elsewhere. Historically, white supremacists infiltrate law enforcement for the explicit purpose of getting early warning and sounding alarms if the Feds or others are headed their way. They are continuing an old tactic with their Committee appointments, in this case picking white supremacists who also happen to be on Putin's team.
Why do you think GOP/Trump favorite Cory Mills from Florida brought in and distributed in Congress defused grenades yesterday? For the same reason their first actions after the swearing in were to remove the magnetometers from the entrance. It was a probe, a dry run meant to test the Capitol's security readiness/response. Anyone honest and qualified with a background in security will tell you it should be treated as just that, not a stunt.
Please tell me there is a link
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blm
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brush
(53,794 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 28, 2023, 09:44 PM - Edit history (1)
differentiating all these names and skullduggery that's recently popping up.
Please connect the dots.
blm
(113,071 posts)erronis
(15,306 posts)Very in depth with a ton of (usually) helpful commentary.
But there are lots of characters involved in these plots. Hard to keep them all identified and linked.
brush
(53,794 posts)NBachers
(17,125 posts)Oh, thats right, there was another agenda of that point, wasnt there?
blm
(113,071 posts)they didnt have it in place, and the parts they needed were under McGonigals authority.
Duppers
(28,125 posts)SMH.
Kid Berwyn
(14,921 posts)Paul Manafort owed Oleg Deripaska millions, a debt Manafort he promised to make whole as his own personal insider in the Drumpf White Haus. His actions with agents of Putin demonstrate how the campaign treasonously conspired with Moscow in 2016. Who knows what wouldve been revealed had the guy been held to account and in prison today?
Coincidentally, FBI counterespionage expert Charles McGonigal was getting paid lots of money by a Deripaska cut-out just after that time. Something We the People probably never wouldve known were it not for a bag of cash and a curious girlfriend.
I am so glad to know Gen. Milley and so many more take the oath seriously.
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blm
(113,071 posts)blm
(113,071 posts)as a Democratic party issue. He was saying it was deliberate by McCarthy because Schiff is a Russia Intel expert. The media is playing into their hands by making it about political payback. Its the Republican Putin lovers that national security people are worried about.
iemanja
(53,035 posts)blm
(113,071 posts)giving access to info on Barr-Durham story BEFORE Intel committee Republicans can interfere.
Thanks for the clarification. I'll delete.
Kid Berwyn
(14,921 posts)Schiff and Swalwell are on to Trumpco Treason. Putins tools McCarthy, Gym Jordan, Ted Cruz, etc etc etc continue to operate and function.
iemanja
(53,035 posts)blm
(113,071 posts)is your complaint here? I must be missing something. What am I missing?
iemanja
(53,035 posts)McGonigal, why now? That's the part that's odd to me.
Kid Berwyn
(14,921 posts)Instead, the press has made it OK for the GOP to support Dip way past the point of forgiving treason.
Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,838 posts)When will everyone figure out that the Mass Media in the U.S. is 80+% owned by Rich Republicans and Republican Corporations.
TV, Cable news, Radio, Newspapers, Periodicals, etc etc etc. ALL OF IT...............
It is that simple............they may as well be the old PRAVDA of the U.S.S.R.
The first thing that Hitler did in Germany was take over the press.........
erronis
(15,306 posts)whether US libertarians or foreign countries.
They'd all like to see the US government become a rubberstamp for the rich and powerful. More so than it already is.
Kid Berwyn
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a post with resources seldom if ever mentioned by CNNBCIABCBS nor the rival Ruperts Fixed Noise Nutwork.
Right Wing Built the Mass Media Long Ago to Manipulate the Masses
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217547007
DENVERPOPS
(8,838 posts)Thank you
Traildogbob
(8,761 posts)Russia has been in the pocket of FBI for decades now.
He gave up over 50 field agents. 3 were executed by the then KGB. He was convicted of espionage in 2022. Pleaded guilty to avoid firing squad and began life sentence with 23 hours a day solitary confinement. Still serving in fed prison in Colorado.
We need to know why congress members went to Moscow on July 4th, why Flynn was a frequent guest of Putin. And Manafort
is it not all obvious. I am sure Gym and Large Marge will get to the bottom of it all. We need a massive purge in DC. All Russian
Asshats need to be in Colorado cells. Start with Hair Furor.
soldierant
(6,891 posts)At least the Max isn't in Boebert's district, although it's durned close.
erronis
(15,306 posts)We need to know why congress members went to Moscow on July 4th, why Flynn was a frequent guest of Putin. And Manafort
is it not all obvious. I am sure Gym and Large Marge will get to the bottom of it all. We need a massive purge in DC.
These event need to be brought to the front. Of course the IC knows what happened and perhaps why, but it isn't public. Perhaps because it involves friends in the IC?