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Peacetrain

(22,881 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:28 PM Jan 2023

Seriously, this document issue with Biden makes Trump look all the worse..

Bidens lawyers as soon as they found the documents, informed the White House (who to be honest could have just said, bring them back to the White House is he were a Trump like character and no one would have known diddly squat).. but they did the right thing.. sent them back through the right channels, informed the right people.. did NOT spend a year in the courts trying to hide hundreds of classified documents.. (which makes those empty highly classified folders even more incriminating..

This all makes Trump and his allies who tried to help him hide it look all the more guilty..



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AZSkiffyGeek

(11,164 posts)
1. The fact that we didn't hear about it pre-election
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:30 PM
Jan 2023

Shows that Garland was at least following the "no political investigation pre election" rules. And I think because it wasn't leaked from TFG's ratfuckers indicates they weren't necessarily responsible.

LymphocyteLover

(5,666 posts)
12. Yes, and also the main reason we knew about the investigation into Dumps' stolen files is because
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 03:14 PM
Jan 2023

of the huge fuss he MADE PUBLICLY about it.

Silent3

(15,450 posts)
3. Only if you're dealing in facts, which is largely irrelavent to public perception
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:35 PM
Jan 2023

The opportunity for false equivalence has been provided, and that will reign, regardless of pesky factual details, wherever it is convenient for it to do so.

Peacetrain

(22,881 posts)
4. Not if we keep pushing up the dirt on it..
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:38 PM
Jan 2023

The other side can lie with impunity (think Santos).. we just cannot loose our energy and get tired.. we have to keep pushing back the realities.. As long as I can remember, our side tends to get tired of repeating .. and we just have too..

Silent3

(15,450 posts)
8. We're definitely worse off if we don't work to get the facts out there...
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:59 PM
Jan 2023

...so we should definitely do that, but it only keeps things from getting worse than they are. For the crowd that believes (or benefits from pretending that they believe) the 2020 election was "stolen" from Trump, and Democrats are blood-drinking pedophiles, this Biden documents story gives them every thing they'd want, and factual details will never matter.

The only moveable people are a bunch of wishy-washy low-information voters, and it is important to try to sway these people because we have so many close elections where we depend on them.

I made my comment because the title of the OP, "Seriously, this document issue with Biden makes Trump look all the worse" is only true for those who either already know the Biden situation is not as bad as what Trump did, and a small portion of the population beyond that.

Kota

(901 posts)
5. We have to keep this the message, control the narrative. Keep showing the contrast cause the media
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:41 PM
Jan 2023

wants to go with a misleading headline.

Chakaconcarne

(2,482 posts)
7. Republicans really don't care about Biden's documents....
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 12:48 PM
Jan 2023

Though they're parading about otherwise.....

They're looking for openings in how it's handled, so they can sell defunding the DOJ and FBI.

and....if they can tie up the DOJ and FBI with a bunch of BS, all the better for them.

GreenWave

(6,829 posts)
9. Any chance these were planted there?
Wed Jan 11, 2023, 01:29 PM
Jan 2023

Seems like an awfully long time for the National Archives not to have requested their return.

13. "Return"? National Archives never had possession of them.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 08:49 AM
Jan 2023

Biden never handed them over to anyone. And the people at the National Archives don't have knowledge of documents until they get them -- it's not like they have a checklist like, "Okay we're waiting on these documents."

GreenWave

(6,829 posts)
14. I am honored to be your first post.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 08:54 AM
Jan 2023


So these never made it there in the first place. That is good to know. So they were not AWOL.

Emile

(23,209 posts)
15. Trump has been saying for weeks when are the feds going to search
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 08:57 AM
Jan 2023

Joe Biden properties. A SS agent was bitten by Joe Biden's dog in the White House and the agent was not suppose to be in the private living area. What was he doing there?

GreenWave

(6,829 posts)
16. I had a brilliant history professor in college.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 09:08 AM
Jan 2023

He said you cannot rely upon documents only because the art of forgery was mastered. He was talking about the second world war. Undoubtedly the art of forgery has gotten even better.

So we need to know the topic of these documents and/or who reviewed them.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
17. Trumps team probably planted those at both locations
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 09:52 AM
Jan 2023

The Trump investigation should double down and find out who on Trumps team had access to the Biden docs.

SYFROYH

(34,186 posts)
18. I disagree. It helps Trump politically.
Thu Jan 12, 2023, 09:54 AM
Jan 2023

Unless something else comes up on Trump like distributing the documents to others.
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