"That's just not true" or "BULLSHIT!"---take your choice.

[Atticus]

But, let's not let the ongoing flurry of "alternate facts" go uncorrected.

"The FBI and DOJ, etc., etc. have been WEAPONIZED against all decent Americans!"

"We Republicans have no plans to kill Social Security or Medicare."

"Trump just did what we now know Biden did with Classified documents."

My choice? BULLSHIT!---all of these and many more.

Don't let ANY of these fascist liars get away with their rewriting of reality.

[gab13by13]

1. "Too much caution turns into immunity." Adam Schiff.

Until people are held accountable the Magats will be emboldened, and they will also control the narrative.

[Beastly Boy]

6. Or, as Schiff demonstrated earlier, sufficient caution ultimately leads to successful prosecution

And the man who would finally secure Miller’s conviction in 1990—after three trials over the course of six years—was a young U.S. attorney in Los Angeles: Adam Schiff.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/05/26/adam-schiff-russia-hawk-524-226983/

Three trials over the course of six years to convict one man. Now that's too much caution if I ever saw any. Go Schiff!

BTW, congratulate me: my previous response to your identical post has been reinstated on appeal:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1002&pid=17535805

[gab13by13]

11. You are wrong about me.

#1 I have never alerted on anyone here, never will, if I have a disagreement with anyone I let them know why I disagree. I do not hide behind the alert button.

#2. Indicting Trump for crimes related to J6 are difficult, a high bar. As a matter of fact I do not think that DOJ should try to indict Trump for seditious conspiracy. The crimes that Trump committed related to J6 need to take longer. My complaint from day 1 is that DOJ waited too long to open up investigations into Trump and his inner circle. DOJ does not leak, but we find out. DOJ was shocked at Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony before the J6 committee. Thanks to the J6 committee subpoenaing her she is the key witness if the Fani Willis prosecution of Trump. Cassidy proved direct evidence of Trump's criminal intent.

#3. I read the life history you provided of Adam Schiff. Congratulations to Schiff to be the first prosecutor to indict an FBI agent for espionage. hats off to Schiff it was a big feather in his hat and confirmation of his knowledge.

My complaints against DOJ that relate to indictments are about Trump's theft of classified documents, refusal to return them, lies about returning them and obstructing the investigation. Give me the name of one former prosecutor who does not believe that there is enough evidence right now to indict Trump for crimes related to his document theft. Just one name. Even you have to admit that DOJ treated Trump with kid gloves regarding his theft of classified documents.

[Beastly Boy]

19. I didn't imply that you alerted my post, nor do I believe you would.

What I am bringing your attention to is that you have used Schiff's quote more than once, presumably to lend his authority to your argument, and implying, as Schiff did, that DOJ's caution, which he considers excessive, equals immunity to those it had investigated. In both your case and Schiff's, nothing could be further from the truth. But what is notable, and what I noted, was the glaring discrepancy between his past years long delays in prosecuting a spy, partially due to too little caution on his part, and his recent announcement warning of too much caution. He ought to know better.

I also wanted to note how irrationally toxic the dislike of DOJ has become on DU: a perfectly legitimate post (according to the administration) had not only been alerted on, but also removed by a jury.

The replacement of "too long" by "too late" is a very recent phenomenon, and if this is the argument now, it is equally groundless: DOJ had no legitimate standing to initiate an investigation into Trump, or the thousands of other insurrectionists until 1/6/2021, and DOJ initiated internal review of the insurrection on 1/15/2021 (https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/15/doj-internal-watchdog-capitol-riots-investigation-459634#:~:text=DOJ%20internal%20watchdog%20opens%20investigation%20into%20Capitol%20riots,Photo%20By%20Nick%20Niedzwiadek%2001%2F15%2F2021%2010%3A56%20AM%20EST). Trump's role in the insurrection became clear only in the course of the investigations that followed. So the "too long" argument is just as flawed as the "too late" one.

If, however, your concern is limited to Trump's theft of classified documents, then the lack of relevance in both the "too late" and "too long" arguments are self evident. It is not even known at this point whether the full inventory of the stolen documents is complete at this point. How can an AG determine what charges to bring with such incomplete information about the crimes being committed?

[Walleye]

2. It's not just bullshit it's mostly Russian propaganda

[Hortensis]

3. :) +1000. "That's just not true" here in GA. People are typically more knee-jerk outraged

by the use of "unacceptable" language right in front of them than by whatever topic elicited it. Use is virtually guaranteed to distract attention from what's wrong with even the most horrifying event to what's wrong with YOU.

So, "That's Just Not True!"

[rubbersole]

4. Try "bullpoopie".

[Hortensis]

7. :) Haven't tried that. Bald-faced hypocrisy like "BS" and "the F word"

can be gotten away with here -- by vested members of the tribe. Not by Democrats.

[StClone]

8. From Bullpushers

[ShazzieB]

18. I like "bull pucky."

Got that from Rachel Maddow. Because, you know, she's not allowed to say "bullshit" on TV.

[walkingman]

5. Don't worry - a "sky god" is coming to save us all soon.

[AverageOldGuy]

9. "Do you REALLY believe that?"

Followed by an eye-roll.

[judesedit]

10. "That's a lie" works for me.

[jaxexpat]

12. Not too concerned with their rewriting reality since most of them are illiterate.

But I am concerned that they persist in parroting the bumper sticker lies they get from their programmers.

[EnterwebsJohn]

13. "The FBI and DOJ, etc., etc. have been WEAPONIZED

against all decent Americans!"

So that would seem to mean TFG has mo worries, right.

[duhneece]

14. Slightly longer: If you were given multiple sources proving you wrong,

…would you change your mind/opinion?

This is for slightly longer conversations at the appropriate time and people.

[Prairie_Seagull]

15. Thats a lie to someones face almost has to be replied to while,

bullshit is nearly just a statement of what one thinks.

So for me "that's a lie" seems stronger.

However telling someone bullshit may get it off your chest better.

I'm not sure but the question you ask is really just a tool you are using to point out that massive gaslighting going on at the beginning of the 118th congress and I could not agree more.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. "No." works too. . . nt

[republianmushroom]

17. like it