Wed Dec 28, 2022, 08:18 PM
CanonRay (13,059 posts)
I think I'm on to something questioning George Santos' citizenship
I've been asking over and over; do we really know where this guy was born? I couldn't find a single answer to this question until now in Daily Kos. There's nothing about it in his Wikipedia page or any other article I've seen.
Here's a link https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/12/24/2143670/-Is-George-Santos-A-Citizen Former coworkers at Dish say he told them he was born in Brazil. There's this from Josh Marshall at TPM: "My assumption is that Santos is a citizen. But based on my reading of the available reporting there’s no actual evidence that Santos was born in Queens or anywhere in the United States, other than Santos’s say-so, which is obviously worth less than nothing. And there’s at least some evidence – Ms. Hurdas’s recollection – that he told others he was born in Brazil." And here's the Constitutional requirement for House of Representatives: No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen. Art. I Section 2 So if we really don't want him seated, this is the way to go. If he was born in Brazil, was he ever naturalized? If so, when. Let's become George Santos Birthers!
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CanonRay | Dec 28 | OP |
Wingus Dingus | Dec 28 | #1 | |
Cha | Dec 28 | #22 | |
FakeNoose | Dec 28 | #2 | |
ShazzieB | Dec 28 | #31 | |
global1 | Dec 28 | #3 | |
a kennedy | Dec 28 | #6 | |
SilasSouleII | Dec 28 | #36 | |
Chin music | Dec 28 | #7 | |
niyad | Dec 28 | #4 | |
Cha | Dec 28 | #26 | |
Red Mountain | Dec 28 | #5 | |
Docreed2003 | Dec 28 | #10 | |
DENVERPOPS | Dec 28 | #30 | |
TheBlackAdder | Dec 28 | #37 | |
underpants | Dec 28 | #8 | |
drmeow | Dec 28 | #9 | |
Wingus Dingus | Dec 28 | #11 | |
ampm | Dec 28 | #15 | |
LetMyPeopleVote | Dec 28 | #12 | |
ampm | Dec 28 | #13 | |
reACTIONary | Dec 28 | #24 | |
Traildogbob | Dec 28 | #14 | |
BlueWaveNeverEnd | Dec 28 | #16 | |
BlueSpot | Dec 28 | #23 | |
housecat | Dec 28 | #27 | |
deurbano | Dec 28 | #17 | |
CanonRay | Dec 28 | #19 | |
live love laugh | Dec 28 | #18 | |
CanonRay | Dec 28 | #20 | |
ShazzieB | Dec 28 | #32 | |
live love laugh | Dec 29 | #38 | |
Cha | Dec 28 | #21 | |
housecat | Dec 28 | #25 | |
Jarqui | Dec 28 | #28 | |
Rhiannon12866 | Dec 28 | #29 | |
COL Mustard | Dec 28 | #33 | |
CanonRay | Dec 28 | #34 | |
COL Mustard | Dec 28 | #35 | |
Native | Dec 29 | #39 | |
dalton99a | Dec 29 | #40 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Dec 29 | #41 | |
Chin music | Dec 29 | #43 | |
Chin music | Dec 29 | #42 |
Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 08:27 PM
Wingus Dingus (7,281 posts)
1. Hmm. Foreign born, also says he's been to Russia "many times". And received cash from
Russian oligarch connections. This is a national security problem, right here. He needs to be prevented from taking office--he's so completely phony in all aspects he's almost a hologram. We already have Gaetz Boebert and Greene as Russian assets in Congress, they're bad enough.
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Response to Wingus Dingus (Reply #1)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:36 PM
Cha (283,905 posts)
22. Yeah, at least this all came
out much further in the NYT Before he took office.
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Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 08:33 PM
FakeNoose (28,403 posts)
2. If he can't present a US passport, we need to know why
Either he can't get one because he's not a citizen. (So he's ineligible to be a US Representative.)
Or he's got one and it's in a name other than George Santos. (That would mean he entered under a fictitious name.) Either way, he can't be sworn in as a new Representative on Wednesday Jan. 3rd. ![]() |
Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 08:34 PM
global1 (24,457 posts)
3. You Know If The Shoe Were On The Other Foot & Santo's Was Elected As A Dem.......
the Repugs would be relentless and be complaining non-stop to make sure this guy would never be seated in Congress.
I wonder what kind of pressure will be exerted on Santo's vote for the Speaker. I can see him being told - we'll protect your seat - if you vote the right way for speaker. |
Response to global1 (Reply #3)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 09:02 PM
a kennedy (27,157 posts)
6. HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GONE BY NOW if he was a Democrat. 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬
Response to a kennedy (Reply #6)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:49 PM
SilasSouleII (304 posts)
36. And that would be a bad thing?
n/t
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Response to global1 (Reply #3)
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Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 08:46 PM
niyad (98,811 posts)
4. Has anybody checked under that devolarde (sp????) name on that fake company?
Supposedly his mother's name?
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Response to niyad (Reply #4)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:40 PM
Cha (283,905 posts)
26. And, I read he's gone by
George Devolder before.
Wiki says he's an American politician.. but that doesn't mean much now. |
Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 08:53 PM
Red Mountain (1,349 posts)
5. Maybe he can produce a birth certificate?
Long or short form, his choice.
Whatever the difference is. Didn't they always want Obama's long form birth certificate? |
Response to Red Mountain (Reply #5)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 09:36 PM
Docreed2003 (15,333 posts)
10. Exactly what I came to post
Let's see his "long form" birth certificate!
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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #10)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:54 PM
DENVERPOPS (7,589 posts)
30. AND
Verify it isn't a forgery. he can't be trusted, he will forge one, just like he claimed to have all the other things that were found to be illegitimate........
They can verify a Live Birth in the U.S. in a ton of different ways.....but will they???????? |
Response to Red Mountain (Reply #5)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:57 PM
TheBlackAdder (26,079 posts)
37. Yeah, the same thing Pres. Obama was asked. He needs to produce the fucking long form.
Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 09:14 PM
underpants (175,312 posts)
8. I'd guess he was lying to coworkers to make him seem more interesting
My guess
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Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 09:35 PM
drmeow (4,649 posts)
9. Is there not a government agency
which checks things like this? I seem to recall that there is an agency which decides if someone is eligible to be president - although it may only do so if a candidate is challenged.
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Response to drmeow (Reply #9)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 09:41 PM
Wingus Dingus (7,281 posts)
11. That's what I can't figure out. He'd have to provide official identification and
citizenship paperwork to some agency at some point...right? I mean, many regular jobs require background checks to get hired.
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Response to drmeow (Reply #9)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:14 PM
ampm (264 posts)
15. I had FBI background
Almost all my job required an FBI and police background check so how did he not get a minimum of that
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Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 09:56 PM
LetMyPeopleVote (126,642 posts)
12. If Santos was born in the US, provide a birth certificate
Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:11 PM
ampm (264 posts)
13. when we need the truth
I've been asking the same question, how can he even be living in another district and voted into office
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Response to ampm (Reply #13)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:38 PM
reACTIONary (5,426 posts)
24. New York does not require reps to live in their district...
... Just the state.
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Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:13 PM
Traildogbob (6,700 posts)
14. Birth Cert is under audit
He will release it in two weeks. It’s hundreds of pages. The likes of which we’ve never seen before.
This is all another witch hunt by libs. |
Response to Traildogbob (Reply #14)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:16 PM
BlueWaveNeverEnd (2,875 posts)
16. birth cert too complicated for us to understand.
Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:17 PM
deurbano (2,741 posts)
17. Have we heard anything about his father? Did George (or whatever name he's going by at the moment)
automatically become a citizen (at birth) through his father? (Even if born in Brazil...)
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Response to deurbano (Reply #17)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:19 PM
CanonRay (13,059 posts)
19. His parents were born in Brazil
from vrything I've read. Unlikely they were naturalized then had him. Depends more on here he was born.
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Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:17 PM
live love laugh (10,929 posts)
18. Where's the process requiring validation of citizenship for candidates?
Most of the problems we are experiencing are the result of failures for decades to ensure that preventive processes were in place.
This is a painful learning experience but hopefully it will bring about the necessary improvements. |
Response to live love laugh (Reply #18)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:25 PM
CanonRay (13,059 posts)
20. Used to be no one would ever think to lie
about such a thing. But were post Trump.
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Response to live love laugh (Reply #18)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:09 PM
ShazzieB (10,451 posts)
32. Sounds like another thing that needs to be adressed with legislation.
Last edited Thu Dec 29, 2022, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1) Now that we live in an era where the "honor system" no longer works (because there are so many people who have no "honor" ).
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Response to ShazzieB (Reply #32)
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Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:34 PM
Cha (283,905 posts)
21. We Need a certificate of Citizenship.. or
or whatever it's called.
I think you are too.. on to something and whomever else questioned it in an earlier post on another thread. Seems he's been here awhile.. since he's an Inveterate Liar.. who knows at this point. Deeper Investigations are forthcoming.. No Doubt. TY! ![]() |
Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:40 PM
housecat (2,088 posts)
25. Good question!
Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:44 PM
Jarqui (9,175 posts)
28. Where is Orly Taitz when we need her most? ...
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Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 10:47 PM
Rhiannon12866 (175,447 posts)
29. Right on! That's the thing! Why did he need to fabricate his entire life?
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Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:11 PM
COL Mustard (4,638 posts)
33. Interesting.
A couple of days ago, his Wikipedia page said that he was born in Queens. Curiouser and curiouser....
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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #33)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:13 PM
CanonRay (13,059 posts)
34. That's what he now claims
so take it to the bank
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Response to CanonRay (Reply #34)
Wed Dec 28, 2022, 11:14 PM
COL Mustard (4,638 posts)
35. I will.
Also, T*ump is a gazillionaire just like he always claimed!
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Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 10:48 AM
Native (5,510 posts)
39. Also per Marshall, the coworker said he told her he was born in Brazil & went to grade school there.
And those claims about his maternal gtandparents being Belgian immigrants who fled the devastation of WWII Europe???? Reports by The Foward show they were born in Brazil.
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Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 10:54 AM
dalton99a (74,376 posts)
40. A certified birth certificate or naturalization certificate is absolutely relevant.
Response to CanonRay (Original post)
Thu Dec 29, 2022, 01:10 PM
Hermit-The-Prog (27,192 posts)
41. Sounds like a job for the FBI; they'll get on it in two or three years, I'm sure.
Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #41)
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