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brooklynite

(94,808 posts)
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:43 AM Dec 2022

New York Times Op-Ed by Adam Schiff

My Fellow Members of the Jan. 6 Committee and I Don’t Want You to Forget About ‘the Republican Congressmen’

On Dec. 27, 2020, more than six weeks after losing re-election, an infuriated President Donald Trump telephoned his acting attorney general, Jeffrey Rosen. Mr. Trump’s former attorney general, Bill Barr, had announced his resignation less than two weeks earlier, after telling the president that the claims of election fraud Mr. Trump had been trumpeting were — as Mr. Barr later bluntly put it in testimony — “bullshit” and publicly affirming that there was no fraud on a scale that would affect the outcome of the election.

With Mr. Rosen’s deputy, Richard Donoghue, also on the line, Mr. Trump launched into the same tired, disproved and discredited allegations he had propagated so often at rallies, during news conferences and on social media. None of it was true, and Mr. Donoghue told him so. According to Mr. Donoghue, Mr. Trump, exasperated that his own handpicked top appointees at the Justice Department would not affirm his baseless allegations, responded: “Just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen.”

It was a remarkable statement, even for a president who had serially abused the powers of his office. Having been told by the very department that had investigated his claims of fraud that they were untrue, Mr. Trump told the acting attorney general and his deputy to lie about it and said he would take it from there.

That Mr. Trump was willing to lie so baldly about a matter at the heart of our democracy — whether the American people can rely on elections to ensure the peaceful transfer of power — now seems self-evident, even unremarkable, when we consider the violent attack on the Capitol he incited days later. But Americans shouldn’t lose sight of how this behavior indicts the former president, and not just the former president but also the Republican members of Congress who he knew would go along with his big lie.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/opinion/adam-schiff-jan-6-committee-report-referrals.html



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New York Times Op-Ed by Adam Schiff (Original Post) brooklynite Dec 2022 OP
Gotta love Adam Schiff! Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #1
Sure for liberals, but does he connect BootinUp Dec 2022 #18
"...Americans shouldn't lose sight..." dchill Dec 2022 #2
The media in the U.S. is a for-profit brainwashing enterprise Alice Kramden Dec 2022 #5
Glad you qualified your opening in your comments. The M$M is corrupt. However... Tommymac Dec 2022 #12
It's true. SouthernDem4ever Dec 2022 #17
This. calimary Dec 2022 #20
The center in 1960 was to the left of markodochartaigh Dec 2022 #34
Love this poem! ShazzieB Dec 2022 #39
Yes - I too applaud global news organizations Alice Kramden Dec 2022 #24
It's been obvious for decades dlk Dec 2022 #29
Yes! Alice Kramden Dec 2022 #33
I'm surprised no one much mentioned the stolen 2000 election with all of the hysteria over the 2020 dlk Dec 2022 #35
Good thing TFG didn't have a brother who was governor of a contested state, eh? 🙄 ShazzieB Dec 2022 #40
Completely agree! mountain grammy Dec 2022 #42
K&R n/t Alice Kramden Dec 2022 #3
Schaffer does not want us to forget GoldandSilver Dec 2022 #4
Schiff Hekate Dec 2022 #37
Lock them all up. Seditious traitors. Bluethroughu Dec 2022 #6
+1000!! Diamond_Dog Dec 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #10
Yes it does, and we will be a stronger country for it. Bluethroughu Dec 2022 #22
Yep. calimary Dec 2022 #23
Not accordingly enough. The Grand Illuminist Dec 2022 #43
That's it - in a nutshell FakeNoose Dec 2022 #7
Barr did nothing but cover his traitorous fat ass. rubbersole Dec 2022 #21
Barr was/is totally worthless. calimary Dec 2022 #25
Barr was worse than worthless markodochartaigh Dec 2022 #36
Great piece! Here's a no-paywall link teach1st Dec 2022 #8
Thanks SaveOurDemocracy Dec 2022 #14
Thank you Auggie Dec 2022 #15
Thank you Wild blueberry Dec 2022 #19
Thanks, I appreciated that. planetc Dec 2022 #28
Thanks! 🎅🏼 Hekate Dec 2022 #38
+1 dalton99a Dec 2022 #41
Thank you so much! soldierant Dec 2022 #44
You all are welcome! teach1st Dec 2022 #45
Republicans continued to support the Pathogical Liar In Chief Martin Eden Dec 2022 #11
The GOP has been in on Trump since the 2016 primary Jarqui Dec 2022 #13
'cept the Rethuglican Congressmembers swore an oath OMGWTF Dec 2022 #27
and they'll tell you either the woke Democrats are enemies ... Jarqui Dec 2022 #31
We need someone to swoop in and tell us that Schiff doesn't know what he's talking about Orrex Dec 2022 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #26
like it republianmushroom Dec 2022 #30
Love his sly little dig: "... Mr Trump had been trumpeting..." JudyM Dec 2022 #32
Going around Liz Cheney lame54 Dec 2022 #46
K and R...Thanks for posting.. Stuart G Dec 2022 #47
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Gotta love Adam Schiff!
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 10:49 AM
Dec 2022


Hopefully he gets a bunch of interviews ... though I'm sure Faux won't let him anywhere near.

BootinUp

(47,207 posts)
18. Sure for liberals, but does he connect
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 12:09 PM
Dec 2022

With a broader audience? I am not suggesting he doesn’t, just curious. I give him very high marks.

Alice Kramden

(2,168 posts)
5. The media in the U.S. is a for-profit brainwashing enterprise
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:09 AM
Dec 2022

The mainstream media is corrupt and complicit and a co-conspirator in the insurrection

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
12. Glad you qualified your opening in your comments. The M$M is corrupt. However...
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:41 AM
Dec 2022
Independent investigative journalism is most definitely alive and kicking on all the internets.

There are, at a minimum, scores of good to great journalists out there Globally who do a great job investigating and reporting just like the MSM used to do.

I applaud them.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,617 posts)
17. It's true.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 12:09 PM
Dec 2022

They think by remaining in the center on all issues they appear unbiased when in reality they are aiding enemies of our constitution.

markodochartaigh

(1,162 posts)
34. The center in 1960 was to the left of
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 03:12 PM
Dec 2022

where the center is today, on economic issues. Our oligarchs have allowed the Overton Window to be moved to the left on social issues about which they don't really care even as the Overton Window has been moved to the right on economic issues.

"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."
Yeats

ShazzieB

(16,575 posts)
39. Love this poem!
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 04:53 PM
Dec 2022

Good choice.

This bit could be a description of today's GOP:

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity


"Best" in this instance meaning "the ones who aren't completely bat crap crazy," and "worst," well, I'm sure everyone can figure that out.

Alice Kramden

(2,168 posts)
24. Yes - I too applaud global news organizations
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 12:29 PM
Dec 2022

Such as The Guardian, Deutsche Welle, and Al Jazeera. Also very much appreciate our independent-thinking, progressive journalists in the US. My comment pertained to the major media culprits we have here in America

dlk

(11,585 posts)
29. It's been obvious for decades
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 12:51 PM
Dec 2022

Remember the propaganda surrounding the 2000 presidential election, which actually was stolen, the misinformation peddled about 911, and the Iraq war? Our for-profit, corporate media has been at this for some time. In order to get a more accurate picture of what’s really happening in the world, reading multiple publicans outside of the US is necessary.

Our democracy’s survival requires a free and independent press. In reality we really only have about half of one.

dlk

(11,585 posts)
35. I'm surprised no one much mentioned the stolen 2000 election with all of the hysteria over the 2020
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 03:19 PM
Dec 2022

Part of the reason Republicans have carried on so about the 2020 election is that they got away with it in 2000, and thought they could do it again.

mountain grammy

(26,661 posts)
42. Completely agree!
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 05:47 PM
Dec 2022

Corporate interests almost always win in America. just make shit and worry about the consequences later, and the media is corporate.

GoldandSilver

(186 posts)
4. Schaffer does not want us to forget
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:06 AM
Dec 2022

Rats like the Orange guy don’t live solitary lives. They thrive in colonies and unfortunately, they are now colonized in our Congress and state houses.

Bluethroughu

(5,203 posts)
6. Lock them all up. Seditious traitors.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:10 AM
Dec 2022

Everyone who perpetuated the lie, was part of the conspiracy to subvert our Democracy to take power for their benefit. Their actions and words incited the dumbass commoners to fight their battle. They all did it willfully and intently for their power and personal benefit. Lock everyone up that went along when they knew! IT WAS A LIE!

Response to Bluethroughu (Reply #6)

FakeNoose

(32,833 posts)
7. That's it - in a nutshell
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:22 AM
Dec 2022

Jeffrey Rosen sat back and let it happen, and he knew exactly what Chump was trying to do. Bill Barr - as much as I hated the man, I do give him credit - stood up and said "No, you can't do this. You can't lie and say the election was stolen, because it wasn't."

That's why Barr was gone and Rosen got his job. If Rosen had also said "No," he probably would have been fired or asked to resign. (Remember the Saturday Night Massacre?) BUT the entire Department of Justice including every US attorney would have also resigned in protest.

Rosen didn't resign, he let the lies stand. He went along with Chump's evil plan. And now here we are.

calimary

(81,550 posts)
25. Barr was/is totally worthless.
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 12:29 PM
Dec 2022

Bending in whatever direction will benefit him personally, the most.

soldierant

(6,940 posts)
44. Thank you so much!
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 07:56 PM
Dec 2022

There are so many of us who cannot afford a subscription, and the gift links are free and, I'm pretty sure, easy to use. All who have thanked you ina comment here - and the many, many more who haven't(yet) - deeply appreciate it.

teach1st

(5,935 posts)
45. You all are welcome!
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 08:19 PM
Dec 2022

The pleasure is mine, soldierant! I tried to cancel my subscription to the NY Times, and you have to actually call them to cancel. The person on the other end of my cancel call offered me a price of $4.00 a month to stay with them, so I took it.

Martin Eden

(12,881 posts)
11. Republicans continued to support the Pathogical Liar In Chief
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:38 AM
Dec 2022

Until he became a liability in winning elections.

This is an indictment of them ALL.

Jarqui

(10,131 posts)
13. The GOP has been in on Trump since the 2016 primary
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 11:42 AM
Dec 2022

They could have impeached him twice to correct their mistake.
Trump did not do this without a lot of help - hundreds of millions of dollars from big donors, media and many members of the GOP and others in government and outside of government and from other countries like Russia.

Just going after "Republican congressmen" scratches the surface.

OMGWTF

(3,980 posts)
27. 'cept the Rethuglican Congressmembers swore an oath
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 12:40 PM
Dec 2022

to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

Jarqui

(10,131 posts)
31. and they'll tell you either the woke Democrats are enemies ...
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:09 PM
Dec 2022

or it is time to burn the Constitution

Orrex

(63,243 posts)
16. We need someone to swoop in and tell us that Schiff doesn't know what he's talking about
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 12:00 PM
Dec 2022

I mean, that's what happens when a DUer makes more or less the same observation as Schiff has made here, so it stands to reason.


k/r

Response to Orrex (Reply #16)

JudyM

(29,294 posts)
32. Love his sly little dig: "... Mr Trump had been trumpeting..."
Sat Dec 24, 2022, 02:51 PM
Dec 2022


A possible glimpse of their caricature of him behind closed doors…
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