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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew York Times Op-Ed by Adam Schiff
On Dec. 27, 2020, more than six weeks after losing re-election, an infuriated President Donald Trump telephoned his acting attorney general, Jeffrey Rosen. Mr. Trumps former attorney general, Bill Barr, had announced his resignation less than two weeks earlier, after telling the president that the claims of election fraud Mr. Trump had been trumpeting were as Mr. Barr later bluntly put it in testimony bullshit and publicly affirming that there was no fraud on a scale that would affect the outcome of the election.
With Mr. Rosens deputy, Richard Donoghue, also on the line, Mr. Trump launched into the same tired, disproved and discredited allegations he had propagated so often at rallies, during news conferences and on social media. None of it was true, and Mr. Donoghue told him so. According to Mr. Donoghue, Mr. Trump, exasperated that his own handpicked top appointees at the Justice Department would not affirm his baseless allegations, responded: Just say that the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen.
It was a remarkable statement, even for a president who had serially abused the powers of his office. Having been told by the very department that had investigated his claims of fraud that they were untrue, Mr. Trump told the acting attorney general and his deputy to lie about it and said he would take it from there.
That Mr. Trump was willing to lie so baldly about a matter at the heart of our democracy whether the American people can rely on elections to ensure the peaceful transfer of power now seems self-evident, even unremarkable, when we consider the violent attack on the Capitol he incited days later. But Americans shouldnt lose sight of how this behavior indicts the former president, and not just the former president but also the Republican members of Congress who he knew would go along with his big lie.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/22/opinion/adam-schiff-jan-6-committee-report-referrals.html
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)Hopefully he gets a bunch of interviews ... though I'm sure Faux won't let him anywhere near.
BootinUp
(47,207 posts)With a broader audience? I am not suggesting he doesnt, just curious. I give him very high marks.
dchill
(38,578 posts)Tell the media.
Alice Kramden
(2,168 posts)The mainstream media is corrupt and complicit and a co-conspirator in the insurrection
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)There are, at a minimum, scores of good to great journalists out there Globally who do a great job investigating and reporting just like the MSM used to do.
I applaud them.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)They think by remaining in the center on all issues they appear unbiased when in reality they are aiding enemies of our constitution.
calimary
(81,550 posts)The APPEARANCE of neutrality. But sometimes youve just gotta call it the way it IS.
markodochartaigh
(1,162 posts)where the center is today, on economic issues. Our oligarchs have allowed the Overton Window to be moved to the left on social issues about which they don't really care even as the Overton Window has been moved to the right on economic issues.
"Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity."
Yeats
ShazzieB
(16,575 posts)Good choice.
This bit could be a description of today's GOP:
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity
"Best" in this instance meaning "the ones who aren't completely bat crap crazy," and "worst," well, I'm sure everyone can figure that out.
Alice Kramden
(2,168 posts)Such as The Guardian, Deutsche Welle, and Al Jazeera. Also very much appreciate our independent-thinking, progressive journalists in the US. My comment pertained to the major media culprits we have here in America
dlk
(11,585 posts)Remember the propaganda surrounding the 2000 presidential election, which actually was stolen, the misinformation peddled about 911, and the Iraq war? Our for-profit, corporate media has been at this for some time. In order to get a more accurate picture of whats really happening in the world, reading multiple publicans outside of the US is necessary.
Our democracys survival requires a free and independent press. In reality we really only have about half of one.
Agree completely
dlk
(11,585 posts)Part of the reason Republicans have carried on so about the 2020 election is that they got away with it in 2000, and thought they could do it again.
ShazzieB
(16,575 posts)mountain grammy
(26,661 posts)Corporate interests almost always win in America. just make shit and worry about the consequences later, and the media is corporate.
Alice Kramden
(2,168 posts)GoldandSilver
(186 posts)Rats like the Orange guy dont live solitary lives. They thrive in colonies and unfortunately, they are now colonized in our Congress and state houses.
Hekate
(90,913 posts)Bluethroughu
(5,203 posts)Everyone who perpetuated the lie, was part of the conspiracy to subvert our Democracy to take power for their benefit. Their actions and words incited the dumbass commoners to fight their battle. They all did it willfully and intently for their power and personal benefit. Lock everyone up that went along when they knew! IT WAS A LIE!
Diamond_Dog
(32,122 posts)Response to Bluethroughu (Reply #6)
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Bluethroughu
(5,203 posts)calimary
(81,550 posts)The Grand Illuminist
(1,341 posts)They are enemies in every sense of the word.
FakeNoose
(32,833 posts)Jeffrey Rosen sat back and let it happen, and he knew exactly what Chump was trying to do. Bill Barr - as much as I hated the man, I do give him credit - stood up and said "No, you can't do this. You can't lie and say the election was stolen, because it wasn't."
That's why Barr was gone and Rosen got his job. If Rosen had also said "No," he probably would have been fired or asked to resign. (Remember the Saturday Night Massacre?) BUT the entire Department of Justice including every US attorney would have also resigned in protest.
Rosen didn't resign, he let the lies stand. He went along with Chump's evil plan. And now here we are.
rubbersole
(6,744 posts)calimary
(81,550 posts)Bending in whatever direction will benefit him personally, the most.
markodochartaigh
(1,162 posts)I think that it may be appropriate to remember a Christmas past, when the Christmas gifts were Christmas passes.
https://thetriallawyermagazine.com/2021/07/bill-barr-is-the-master-of-covering-up-political-scandals/
teach1st
(5,935 posts)Thanks for posting!
Gifted, no-paywall link to the Adam Schiff opinion piece
SaveOurDemocracy
(4,400 posts)Auggie
(31,215 posts)Wild blueberry
(6,673 posts)Appreciate being able to read the whole piece.
planetc
(7,847 posts)Hekate
(90,913 posts)soldierant
(6,940 posts)There are so many of us who cannot afford a subscription, and the gift links are free and, I'm pretty sure, easy to use. All who have thanked you ina comment here - and the many, many more who haven't(yet) - deeply appreciate it.
teach1st
(5,935 posts)The pleasure is mine, soldierant! I tried to cancel my subscription to the NY Times, and you have to actually call them to cancel. The person on the other end of my cancel call offered me a price of $4.00 a month to stay with them, so I took it.
Martin Eden
(12,881 posts)Until he became a liability in winning elections.
This is an indictment of them ALL.
Jarqui
(10,131 posts)They could have impeached him twice to correct their mistake.
Trump did not do this without a lot of help - hundreds of millions of dollars from big donors, media and many members of the GOP and others in government and outside of government and from other countries like Russia.
Just going after "Republican congressmen" scratches the surface.
OMGWTF
(3,980 posts)to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
Jarqui
(10,131 posts)or it is time to burn the Constitution
Orrex
(63,243 posts)I mean, that's what happens when a DUer makes more or less the same observation as Schiff has made here, so it stands to reason.
k/r
Response to Orrex (Reply #16)
Chin music This message was self-deleted by its author.
republianmushroom
(13,767 posts)JudyM
(29,294 posts)A possible glimpse of their caricature of him behind closed doors