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This is what Churchill wore to the White House during WWII (Original Post) kpete Dec 2022 OP
It was a set of air warden's coveralls for officials organizing protective measures Aristus Dec 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #35
Sorry for the trivia. Aristus Dec 2022 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #49
Okay, you got me there. Aristus Dec 2022 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2022 #51
Tell us more. czarjak Dec 2022 #52
Thanks for posting this. secondwind Dec 2022 #2
Who wore it better? TheBlackAdder Dec 2022 #46
Perfect. Period. czarjak Dec 2022 #53
My skin still crawll even to think that the fucking RUSSIANS were calimary Dec 2022 #56
The Russian guy is probably holding a list of US agents that will somehow meet bad fates. TheBlackAdder Dec 2022 #58
Churchill sure disliked the Soviets bucolic_frolic Dec 2022 #3
Who wore it cilla4progress Dec 2022 #4
Dude can wear whatever the f*** he wants to the WH afaic Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #5
Sometimes, in war, leaders don't have time for appointments with tailors Attilatheblond Dec 2022 #8
S'what I was getting at :) Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #9
Schmucker must hang around strip joints quite a bit to know the attire. SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2022 #41
As a client or worker? Kennah Dec 2022 #54
Who worries about this? BadgerMom Dec 2022 #26
S'what I was getting at :) (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Dec 2022 #29
Clothes don't make the people. The people make the clothes. judesedit Dec 2022 #34
TFG to a tee. barbtries Dec 2022 #39
Great pics! ananda Dec 2022 #6
Took me a second to notice Churchill's clothing Bettie Dec 2022 #7
Yes, Fala seems unimpressed with his wardrobe. Xavier Breath Dec 2022 #20
Brilliant Hekate Dec 2022 #10
Zelensky's a wartime president who comes from war and returns to it. Hortensis Dec 2022 #11
What? Tuck must've wanted him to wear a tan suit? n/t Marcus IM Dec 2022 #12
Carlson is just jealous because Zelensky doesn't have to tan his balls to raise his testosterone... LudwigPastorius Dec 2022 #45
Tucker Carlson is a flaming idiot!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2022 #13
Is he? Or does he just play one on TV? ShazzieB Dec 2022 #36
Yes, sadly rolls in the money!!! n/t RKP5637 Dec 2022 #40
Great find. greatauntoftriplets Dec 2022 #14
Thank you! PortTack Dec 2022 #15
i was not at all upset. barbtries Dec 2022 #16
yeah LostinRed Dec 2022 #21
Kick and kick burrowowl Dec 2022 #17
IIRC, most of the time he just slopped around in a robe and slippers... malthaussen Dec 2022 #18
This brings up a Naked Churchill story I read years ago, and always wondered about the veracity of: NBachers Dec 2022 #57
Yeah, I've seen that one, too. malthaussen Dec 2022 #60
Lots of comparisons to Churchill. Joinfortmill Dec 2022 #19
Tucker Carlson !?!?!?!?! musclecar6 Dec 2022 #22
The reason a uniform gets to the conservative "mind." Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #23
Is that a Victory Garden on the WH lawn? KS Toronado Dec 2022 #24
Hitler launched V-2 ballistic missiles at the Allies. Lasher Dec 2022 #25
The V2's... WarGamer Dec 2022 #43
Zelensky wore a suit in his meeting with TFG and look what that got him csziggy Dec 2022 #27
kpete.......... Upthevibe Dec 2022 #28
you are welcome kpete Dec 2022 #37
What nobody else has mentioned is ... planetc Dec 2022 #30
I've seen tons of interview clips where he was laughing or smiling. Crunchy Frog Dec 2022 #32
Jealous Idiots are "upset". Cha Dec 2022 #31
Interesting ... Thanks for posting this! 👍 nt Raine Dec 2022 #33
Those who got so "upset" about Zelensky's attire were anti-Zelensky and anti-Ukraine to begin with. ShazzieB Dec 2022 #38
Yes I think you're right FakeNoose Dec 2022 #44
I don't want to be "that guy" WarGamer Dec 2022 #42
There were a lot of times when he wasn't wearing anything. Aristus Dec 2022 #48
The speech was also Churchillian. soldierant Dec 2022 #55
When you don't want to pay blood or money to fight tyranny, complain about clothing choices. nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2022 #59

Aristus

(66,530 posts)
1. It was a set of air warden's coveralls for officials organizing protective measures
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 10:57 AM
Dec 2022

during bombing raids.

Churchill called it his 'siren suit'.

Response to Aristus (Reply #1)

Response to Aristus (Reply #47)

Response to Aristus (Reply #50)

calimary

(81,608 posts)
56. My skin still crawll even to think that the fucking RUSSIANS were
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 04:05 AM
Dec 2022

INSIDE the Oval Office!!!

Wonder if anybody planted any listening device or other bug. Wouldn’t be surprised.

Fraternizing with the ENEMY in the Oval Office. By his invitation - TO that same enemy!!! That’s sacrilege!

Damn you, donald. You sold us out. And if you weren’t quite able to finish the job, it’s galling as hell how close you got.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. Dude can wear whatever the f*** he wants to the WH afaic
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 11:38 AM
Dec 2022

Both dudes, matter of fact, given the situations in their home countries at the time.

Seriously who has time to worry about this?

Attilatheblond

(2,278 posts)
8. Sometimes, in war, leaders don't have time for appointments with tailors
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 11:47 AM
Dec 2022

Something ChickenHawks like Tucker will never understand.

BadgerMom

(2,772 posts)
26. Who worries about this?
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 01:45 PM
Dec 2022

The “worriers” are precisely the people who criticized Obama’s tan suit. They’re petty people who are so frightened by and jealous of people of substance who are secure in their own skin that these ciphers lash out.

judesedit

(4,443 posts)
34. Clothes don't make the people. The people make the clothes.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 06:18 PM
Dec 2022

Many in suit and tie are anything but good men. They think they can compensate for their shortcomings by wearing a suit to appear hoity toity lol. So not impressed.

Bettie

(16,151 posts)
7. Took me a second to notice Churchill's clothing
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 11:45 AM
Dec 2022

was too busy looking at the little dog!

But, yeah, if this is the big "criticism" they can just fuck off.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Zelensky's a wartime president who comes from war and returns to it.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 12:03 PM
Dec 2022

His wartime presidential "uniform" is a lot more than just symbolic. It's what he wears. This is one of those litmus nonissues that reveals far more than the nothing it is.

I read that this is Zelensky's first trip out of Ukraine since the war began. Since the skies of Ukraine are far too dangerous, he took a night train across the Polish border and then probably a USAF jet accompanied by US fighter and NATO jets. Arrived @ 10 hours later in DC. around noon, met with our president, addressedcongress, then...stealth return to Ukraine via Poland. Zip-zip.

One of our security officials: "Putin and the Kremlin know he has to get back to home."

LudwigPastorius

(9,264 posts)
45. Carlson is just jealous because Zelensky doesn't have to tan his balls to raise his testosterone...
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 10:15 PM
Dec 2022

levels.

ShazzieB

(16,661 posts)
36. Is he? Or does he just play one on TV?
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 07:51 PM
Dec 2022

I really do wonder how much of his shtick is an act. Fake outrage does play well on FoxNews, after all.

barbtries

(28,824 posts)
16. i was not at all upset.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 12:48 PM
Dec 2022

what i did not know that there was a historical precedent. It does seem fitting that in a time of war, dressing up is totally optional. So much more important stuff to talk about!

I felt that was his message to me. either that or he's just left all that shit at home for the moment.

LostinRed

(840 posts)
21. yeah
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 01:10 PM
Dec 2022

first of all, imagine if he did dress up and wore a suit. His country is literally war-torn people are freezing and starving. If he dressed up, he'd be hit with the "let them eat cake" criticism. Totally appropriate for him to be dressed down. Any criticism is cynical and fake.

malthaussen

(17,241 posts)
18. IIRC, most of the time he just slopped around in a robe and slippers...
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 12:59 PM
Dec 2022

... he was told to treat the White House as home, and he did so.

-- Mal

NBachers

(17,191 posts)
57. This brings up a Naked Churchill story I read years ago, and always wondered about the veracity of:
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 06:24 AM
Dec 2022

Apparently Roosevelt was trying to come up with a name for the League of Nations-type organization he wanted to promote after the war. When he came up with "United Nations," he wheeled into Churchill's bathroom where he'd just emerged from the tub, to tell him about it.. Here are a couple of historical accounts: https://richardlangworth.com/churchills-naked-encounter

https://www.whitehousehistory.org/mr-churchill-in-the-white-house-1

malthaussen

(17,241 posts)
60. Yeah, I've seen that one, too.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 12:24 PM
Dec 2022

Mr Churchill stayed with the Roosevelts for three weeks, and they were quite informal.

-- Mal

musclecar6

(1,693 posts)
22. Tucker Carlson !?!?!?!?!
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 01:20 PM
Dec 2022


Just a loudmouth jackass who doesn’t know shit about living in the real world, or a guy who is leading a country that is at war with a psychopath tyrant. Jerkoff.

Kid Berwyn

(15,073 posts)
23. The reason a uniform gets to the conservative "mind."
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 01:23 PM
Dec 2022
Che Guevara addresses the United Nations in 1964.



The GOP cowards are sore afraid of sharing, or paying taxes, or admitting their hypocrisy.

Lasher

(27,675 posts)
25. Hitler launched V-2 ballistic missiles at the Allies.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 01:44 PM
Dec 2022

They stopped launching only after launch sites had to be moved due to Allied advances. They then became too far away for the rockets to reach Britain.

Sometimes history repeats itself.

WarGamer

(12,515 posts)
43. The V2's...
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 09:58 PM
Dec 2022

The Germans deployed V2 rockets vs England all the way thru 3/27/1945 and the Germans held some launch area until the wars end, targeting European targets like Antwerp.

In fact... the last few months of the war saw the MOST V2 launches.

csziggy

(34,140 posts)
27. Zelensky wore a suit in his meeting with TFG and look what that got him
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 01:48 PM
Dec 2022

So I don't blame him for not "dressing up" for this series of meetings. I do admire him for his dedication and resolve.

planetc

(7,857 posts)
30. What nobody else has mentioned is ...
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 03:35 PM
Dec 2022

that we finally have proof that Zelenskyy can smile. We have not seen many from his zoom station in Ukraine. Also, I thought he was wearing his neatest set of fatigues and a very clean pair of boots as he got off the plane. Thus attired, he brought the house down in the Joint Session.

Crunchy Frog

(26,722 posts)
32. I've seen tons of interview clips where he was laughing or smiling.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 05:22 PM
Dec 2022

Glad he hasn't lost his sense of humor.

ShazzieB

(16,661 posts)
38. Those who got so "upset" about Zelensky's attire were anti-Zelensky and anti-Ukraine to begin with.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 08:13 PM
Dec 2022

Haters will always look for something to criticize and clutch their pearls about. They will hunt high and low to find something, and when they can't find anything real, they'll take the pettiest thing imaginable and spin and twist until they blow it up into the Hugest Fucking Deal Ever. Just like they did when Obama were that tan suit. Exactly like that.

When I watched Zelensky's speech, what he was wearing literally did not even register with me at the time. I was too riveted by his words and his heroism to notice. When I heard about the criticism of his attire, I was like, "Wait, what?" Looked at a pic and was like, "Oh, for Pete's sake."

The people claiming to be upset about his clothes are all Putin boosters who don't want to give money to Ukraine and hate Zelensky on principle. It's not about about the sweatshirt. It never was about the sweatshirt. Fuck them and the clothes horse they rode in on.

FakeNoose

(32,917 posts)
44. Yes I think you're right
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 10:10 PM
Dec 2022

The a-holes are always going to throw grenades, however they can.

Case in point - President Zelenskyy came to our Congress and gave his speech in English - which is a foreign language for him. I'm sure he was nervous speaking in English but he did it anyway. And he nailed it!

Has Chump ever done that? Of course not. Has any President ever given a speech in a foreign language? None that I know of, but Jimmy Carter is fluent in Spanish, so he might have.

I have so much respect for President Zelenskyy and I'm embarrassed about all the cheap-shot criticisms these MAGAts are throwing. What bullshit! What difference did it make, what he wore?

WarGamer

(12,515 posts)
42. I don't want to be "that guy"
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 09:50 PM
Dec 2022

But this is ridiculously misleading.

Winston Churchill spent 110+ days at the White House in WW2.

The tweeter did a vast image search to find some where he's NOT wearing a coat.

It's perfectly OK for Z to appear in his "commander garb" but I really hate when people online seed misinformation.

BTW, do a search for Churchill INSIDE the White House and look at what he's wearing.

Aristus

(66,530 posts)
48. There were a lot of times when he wasn't wearing anything.
Thu Dec 22, 2022, 11:33 PM
Dec 2022

He liked to walk around naked. Really shocked FDR. Churchill responded “The Prime Minister of Great Britain has nothing to hide from the President of the United States!”

soldierant

(6,966 posts)
55. The speech was also Churchillian.
Fri Dec 23, 2022, 02:38 AM
Dec 2022

"Give us the tools and we will finish the job."

I don't know how anyone could have msissed it, even had he not mentioned 1944.

But then, I'm old (not old enough to have been alivein 1944 - but almost.)

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