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babylonsister

(171,433 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 09:48 PM Dec 2022

Jim Jordan Played A Lead Role In Trying To Overturn The Election According To Newly Published Texts

https://www.politicususa.com/2022/12/12/jim-jordan-meadows-texts.html

Posted on Mon, Dec 12th, 2022 by Jason Easley
Jim Jordan Played A Lead Role In Trying To Overturn The Election According To Newly Published Texts


A trove of more than 2,000 of Mark Meadows’s texts was published today, and they show that Jim Jordan played a lead role in Trump’s plot.

Jordan was one of 34 Republican members of Congress communicating with Meadows about overturning the election.

Rep. Jordan wrote to Trump’s chief of staff:

On January 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence, as President of the Senate, should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all — in accordance with guidance from founding father Alexander Hamilton and judicial precedence.

�No legislative act,� wrote Alexander Hamilton in Federalist No. 78, �contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.� �The court in Hubbard v. Lowe reinforced this truth: ��That an unconstitutional statute is not a law at all is a proposition no longer open to discussion.� �226 F. 135, 137 (SDNY 1915), appeal dismissed, 242 U.S. 654 (1916). � Following this rationale, an unconstitutionally appointed elector, like an unconstitutionally enacted statute, is no elector at all.


Jordan was trying to use the Federalist Papers to say that the election was illegal and Mike Pence had the power to overturn it via the recognition of Trump’s fake electors, which is not what Alexander Hamilton meant.
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Jim Jordan Played A Lead Role In Trying To Overturn The Election According To Newly Published Texts (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2022 OP
Not Faux pas Dec 2022 #1
No surprise is right. Septua Dec 2022 #22
Jordan did not write that Botany Dec 2022 #2
my guess is John Eastman mountain grammy Dec 2022 #6
Thanx! Eastman makes sense as per a person who would forward that gibberish Botany Dec 2022 #24
All were searching for a legal fig leaf. To present to The Thing and counsel for approval. Simple. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #15
Yup. In their minds, that's not just what was required, but all that was required. KPN Dec 2022 #18
Yup. In their minds, that's not just what was required, but all that was required. KPN Dec 2022 #19
"...overthrowing our government." sprinkleeninow Dec 2022 #17
Gibberish is all that ever comes... Septua Dec 2022 #21
Yes. But a torrent of gibberish so fast and thick there is only time for the listener to Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #31
Hubbard v. Lowe Has nothing to do with this. NutmegYankee Dec 2022 #3
Yes. Clutching at straws to find a fig leaf. All total QAnon quality. All doomed in Law. Alexander Of Assyria Dec 2022 #16
Liz Cheney knew from day 1 aeromanKC Dec 2022 #4
The new chair of the Judiciary in January. Traildogbob Dec 2022 #8
We really need to get rid of fascists in Congress. if we don't kick them out they will kick us out. housecat Dec 2022 #5
Maddow's Ultra was shocking, until I moonscape Dec 2022 #11
Yes. Ultra was depressing. Rachel did a wonderful job making us look in the mirror housecat Dec 2022 #13
She is trying to wake us up. triron Dec 2022 #29
Lock him up! Emile Dec 2022 #7
Jim 'go to jail' Jordan WVreaper Dec 2022 #9
I am willing to bet MTG was up to her YoshidaYui Dec 2022 #10
And he was almost on the J6 commission. Thanks ... Whiskeytide Dec 2022 #12
Gym Jordan doesn't have the ability to put together the "evidence" he pulled out of his rectum. usaf-vet Dec 2022 #14
Benedict Jordan, the Peeper's Choice Kid Berwyn Dec 2022 #20
Liz Cheney quote: IcyPeas Dec 2022 #23
Of course he did malaise Dec 2022 #25
What irks the shit out of me is that we all know this a-hole was guilty since the get go. panader0 Dec 2022 #26
Me too. triron Dec 2022 #30
So when is this traitor going to be arrested? Emile Dec 2022 #27
Wonder if this could "overturn" Gym for GOP chair of the Judiciary Committee. Hortensis Dec 2022 #28
K&R UTUSN Dec 2022 #32
And this asshole will be heading the House Judiciary Committee Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2022 #33
At every Gym Jordan hearing, every Dem need only use all Hassler Dec 2022 #34

Faux pas

(15,087 posts)
1. Not
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 09:57 PM
Dec 2022

SURPRISED. Old gym is as scuzzy as they come. I want to see mass arrests of ALL of those government employees. Sooner rather than later.

Septua

(2,454 posts)
22. No surprise is right.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 12:53 AM
Dec 2022

Every time he was asked a question about Jan 6, he skirted it somehow or had amnesia. He refused to sit before the Jan 6 committee which is IMO an admittance of complicity.

Peter Navarro said on TV there were 100 congressman involved in the Green Bay Sweep...I never doubted Jordan was in that bunch.

Botany

(71,843 posts)
2. Jordan did not write that
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 09:58 PM
Dec 2022

I wonder who did?

Btw electors are appointed by the state after the state certifies the vote and that state's vote is based on the
framework directed by the US Constitution.

"Unconstitutionaly appointed elector" is just gibberish.

As I read earlier on DU today this was not about trying to
overturn the election but overthrowing our government.

mountain grammy

(27,018 posts)
6. my guess is John Eastman
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 10:44 PM
Dec 2022

who makes up all kinds of shit about Constitution, Federalist Papers, etc, etc..

Botany

(71,843 posts)
24. Thanx! Eastman makes sense as per a person who would forward that gibberish
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 05:26 AM
Dec 2022

Last edited Tue Dec 13, 2022, 10:40 AM - Edit history (1)

BTW Gym sure seemed nervous when asked about J 6th.

&t=2s

and now that shit is going to be chairman of the House Judiciary Committee?
he should be in jail for what he did and that was trying to overthrow our government
in order to keep Trump in power.

KPN

(15,974 posts)
18. Yup. In their minds, that's not just what was required, but all that was required.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 11:55 PM
Dec 2022

They believed all he needed was some good bullshit. Who more likely than knucklehead Gym Jordan to forward bullshit. Well, there were quite a few likeliest — but Gym was among the most qualified in that regard.

KPN

(15,974 posts)
19. Yup. In their minds, that's not just what was required, but all that was required.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 12:02 AM
Dec 2022

They believed all he needed was some good bullshit. Who better than knucklehead Gym Jordan to forward bullshit.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
31. Yes. But a torrent of gibberish so fast and thick there is only time for the listener to
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 02:56 PM
Dec 2022

to think…A Fool…and move on to something more interesting!?

NutmegYankee

(16,283 posts)
3. Hubbard v. Lowe Has nothing to do with this.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 10:07 PM
Dec 2022

It’s a case arguing that a bill raising taxes didn’t originate in the house and therefore was thrown out. It became moot when the house raised the bill again and it passed both houses.

That has fuck all to do with electors.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
16. Yes. Clutching at straws to find a fig leaf. All total QAnon quality. All doomed in Law.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 11:36 PM
Dec 2022

Could find no fig leaf. Solution?

…invoke national emergency, using fig leaf…which they didn’t have.

usaf-vet

(6,656 posts)
14. Gym Jordan doesn't have the ability to put together the "evidence" he pulled out of his rectum.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 11:14 PM
Dec 2022

Hell, he missed the evidence of the misdeeds that were going on right under his nose even though he was told but chose to ignore it all.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
26. What irks the shit out of me is that we all know this a-hole was guilty since the get go.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 07:34 AM
Dec 2022

We all knew the Gosar and Gaetz and Greene were guilty almost right away. We all knew that 140 (?)
repubs voted the night of Jan 6th not to certify--they too were guilty. Yet here it is almost two years later
and all of these asses are in our government, reelected because no charges were ever brought against
these people who supported or took a more active role in the insurrection. The R's now control the House.
It irks the shit out of me. Real justice would have had many of these people arrested and not in our House.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. Wonder if this could "overturn" Gym for GOP chair of the Judiciary Committee.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 10:46 AM
Dec 2022

Losing that very powerful postion would cause Gym pain.

One of the texts from Treason Caucus member Ralph Norman saying tRump needs to invoke "Marshall Law." to the revelation of how unfamiliar he is with the written term, not to so to his call for a military takeover of the nation.

Btw, WHY do some refer to these people as "congress," falsely equating our Democratic members with them?

Hassler

(3,526 posts)
34. At every Gym Jordan hearing, every Dem need only use all
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 04:59 PM
Dec 2022

Their time to keep repeating Gym's treason and Gym's wingman for a predator behavior, with a sprinkle of Jared's Saudi payoff

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