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Cyrano

(15,129 posts)
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 02:56 PM Dec 2022

The Republican controlled House will definetly impeach Joe Biden

Why? Well, any insane reason will do. Because he traded a major criminal to Russia for some girl basketball player. Because he's left our southern border "wide open" to all of those brown people. Because Biden "stole the 2020 election" from "Dear Leader." Or just because they can. Of course, they know their impeachment will go nowhere in the Senate. They'll probably spend the next two years impeaching him over and over again, just because they can. It will be Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi redux. (And Gym Jordan and Marjorie Taylor Greene will probably be leading the investigations.)

And, of course, they'll try to make Hunter Biden's laptop the equivalent of the stolen secret and top secret documents found at Mar-a-lago. Hunter Biden's laptop will be one of the lead stories on Fox "news" almost every night for the next two years.

And let's not forget unfinished business like putting Hillary in jail. This will be among their top priorities. Plus, they'd like to see Dr. Fauci in the cell next to hers.

Never mind the out-of-reach prices at the supermarket or used car dealer. Never mind investing in education, health care, or the general well being of the American people. None of that matters matters to them. They're out for revenge. They're out for blood.

The elected Republican Party, and those bug-shit insane enough to vote for them, are mentally fucked up beyond repair. And they're doing their best to make America fucked up beyond repair. What do you suppose our country will look like two years from now?

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The Republican controlled House will definetly impeach Joe Biden (Original Post) Cyrano Dec 2022 OP
Let them go ahead. Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #1
Agreed. The more they follow their conspiracy theories, the more people will tune them out. Ray Bruns Dec 2022 #24
They'll impeach Biden (at least) thrice Mad_Machine76 Dec 2022 #2
This is my prediction, this is about retaliation nothing else. Thomas Hurt Dec 2022 #4
3x will do it lame54 Dec 2022 #63
The GOP has been at war with Dems and America for some time now. Irish_Dem Dec 2022 #3
Ever since Nixon was impeached. They lost their minds back then, Pathwalker Dec 2022 #33
Nixon resigned before he could be impeached. n/t geardaddy Dec 2022 #34
The Republicans swore revenge and they meant it. Pathwalker Dec 2022 #37
Nixon wasn't impeached moose65 Dec 2022 #36
Bring it on! They're going down in flames. ananda Dec 2022 #5
That's what the industrialists and super wealthy in Germany thought about Hitler Cyrano Dec 2022 #8
Hitler had to kill the leadership of the Brownshirts first Kaleva Dec 2022 #16
He'd "disappear" Ivanka in a second if it got him another penny or another worshiper Cyrano Dec 2022 #42
I meant that it would make the Reeps look bad, not Biden. ananda Dec 2022 #52
They are making themselves irrelevant to most of the country. tavernier Dec 2022 #6
The withdrawal from Afghanistan that Trump ordered? Emile Dec 2022 #7
They might try, but I'm not so sure they'll have the votes. tritsofme Dec 2022 #9
They have no choice (in their demented minds) Cosmocat Dec 2022 #25
It only takes 4 defectors. Party discipline hasn't exactly been a feature tritsofme Dec 2022 #29
I get it's a really small.margin Cosmocat Dec 2022 #51
I see it the same way. Just A Box Of Rain Dec 2022 #30
While the DOJ prosecutes all involved in Jan 6th.... TigressDem Dec 2022 #10
I don't believe that they will be happy until they impeach him three times Chainfire Dec 2022 #11
Just to vindicate and get revenge liberal N proud Dec 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2022 #13
Post your ideas, tg. Ignore those who mock you. Cyrano Dec 2022 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Dec 2022 #62
It isn't going to be good Cosmocat Dec 2022 #28
I would also like to hear your ideas. markodochartaigh Dec 2022 #40
He'd better not pick his nose! Lunabell Dec 2022 #14
This is the game now. So, as said, bring it on. Hortensis Dec 2022 #15
Their investigations help drive their propaganda Cyrano Dec 2022 #21
Absolutely. Vote AND donate accordingly. Dangerously efffective rackets. Hortensis Dec 2022 #35
"sneaking in allegations against Democrats by calling us "congress" and false-identifying us betsuni Dec 2022 #55
That constant dribble of vote-discouraging poison. Hortensis Dec 2022 #56
Has anyone heard of even ONE Republican plan on what do do besides world wide wally Dec 2022 #17
2022 should have taught them indies didn't vote for Crazy. Kaleva Dec 2022 #18
In Georgia, 1.7 Million people voted for the crazy Cyrano Dec 2022 #39
I Suspect RobinA Dec 2022 #20
Trump wasn't impeached Elessar Zappa Dec 2022 #23
THIS! THIS! THIS! OMGWTF Dec 2022 #45
No, it was Nixon that opened the impeachment door. HubertHeaver Dec 2022 #50
Not retaliation Meowmee Dec 2022 #59
I kind of expect it to happen Bettie Dec 2022 #22
Yep. TFG unlocked the primate door at the zoo and the shit is flying everywhere. Cyrano Dec 2022 #26
As Liz Cheney said, these are not serious people Walleye Dec 2022 #27
Please proceed that will backfire like crazy Tribetime Dec 2022 #31
I am not convinced they will have the numbers in the house to even impeach let alone not Bev54 Dec 2022 #32
Chuck Schumer can give them an hour to present their case and proceed with a vote if he wants Trenzalore Dec 2022 #38
Why bother? Tee up a pre-trial motion to dismiss and get back to confirming judges. tritsofme Dec 2022 #43
This is so sad tiredtoo Dec 2022 #41
"sane republicans"??? are there any, at least any in positions of power? niyad Dec 2022 #58
Hmmmm Snackshack Dec 2022 #44
I believe the woman did more than sit on Gary Hart's lap. panader0 Dec 2022 #48
I made this same observation some while ago Orrex Dec 2022 #46
They've got NOTHING that passes evidentiary standards. OR ethical standards. ancianita Dec 2022 #47
And the Democratic controlled Senate will acquit him. ShazzieB Dec 2022 #49
The Republican party no longer serves any useful purpose regarding the governing of this country. hadEnuf Dec 2022 #53
I don't think they have the votes mcar Dec 2022 #54
A badge of honor among those losers. Demsrule86 Dec 2022 #57
Impeachment has become irrelevant. Dysfunctional Dec 2022 #60
3 times. So DFG is not the most impeached president. Voltaire2 Dec 2022 #61

Elessar Zappa

(14,338 posts)
1. Let them go ahead.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 02:58 PM
Dec 2022

It’ll just turn people against them. People are going to be so sick of fake investigations that the Democrats are almost a sure thing to win back the House in ‘24.

Mad_Machine76

(24,542 posts)
2. They'll impeach Biden (at least) thrice
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 02:58 PM
Dec 2022

in order to ensure that Trump is no longer the most impeached President in the history of the country.

Irish_Dem

(50,869 posts)
3. The GOP has been at war with Dems and America for some time now.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 02:59 PM
Dec 2022

Once we wrap our heads around that fact, we can act accordingly.

Pathwalker

(6,600 posts)
33. Ever since Nixon was impeached. They lost their minds back then,
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:58 PM
Dec 2022

and now they don't know where to find them.

Cyrano

(15,129 posts)
8. That's what the industrialists and super wealthy in Germany thought about Hitler
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:07 PM
Dec 2022

They thought he would rid them of the communists, the unionists, the undesirables, and they could go on conducting business as usual. Somehow, it didn't quite work out that way.

Kaleva

(36,628 posts)
16. Hitler had to kill the leadership of the Brownshirts first
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:00 PM
Dec 2022

I just don't see Trump authorizing the murder of MTG, Bannon, Flynn and many others.

tavernier

(12,530 posts)
6. They are making themselves irrelevant to most of the country.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:04 PM
Dec 2022

What is it about Republicans that they don’t know how to be embarrassed? Any other person walking around with a big L on their forehead just knows to quit

tritsofme

(17,639 posts)
9. They might try, but I'm not so sure they'll have the votes.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:08 PM
Dec 2022

Their majority hinges on members who won Biden districts, they might not be willing to sign up for this sort of kamikaze mission.

If they had a larger majority, I have no doubt Biden would be impeached at least three times.

Cosmocat

(14,637 posts)
25. They have no choice (in their demented minds)
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:47 PM
Dec 2022

They have to impeach him cause they told the base they would do it, and the base will demand it.

They could give a shit less about anyone is a close district - and if the break ranks they will be run out like those who voted for 45s impeachment were, cause even if they voted 99.9% of the with their craziness, it would make them RINOs.

tritsofme

(17,639 posts)
29. It only takes 4 defectors. Party discipline hasn't exactly been a feature
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:51 PM
Dec 2022

of recent GOP House majorities, and they’ve never dealt with one this narrow.

Cosmocat

(14,637 posts)
51. I get it's a really small.margin
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 06:11 PM
Dec 2022

But this isn't normal times and this isn't a rationale party.

They made those who voted to impeach 45s lives hell, and they all fear for their lives.

They will make them make the choice.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
30. I see it the same way.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:55 PM
Dec 2022

Here in California we have a number of Republican House members who know their odds of being reelected would be shredded if they supported impeachments. Same in NY and other places.

With a larger majority, perhaps. But it would be asking Reps in swing districts to commit political suicide to flatter the ego of Donald J Trump--someone for whom they have no fealty.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
10. While the DOJ prosecutes all involved in Jan 6th....
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:09 PM
Dec 2022

So hopefully every one of them that aided and abetted the REAL attempt to STEAL 2020 will lose their place and we can get someone instead who will actually DO the work people elect them to do.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
11. I don't believe that they will be happy until they impeach him three times
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:12 PM
Dec 2022

The historical record will have a lot to say about it.

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Cyrano

(15,129 posts)
19. Post your ideas, tg. Ignore those who mock you.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:02 PM
Dec 2022

Yeah, even here on DU, there are many who will laugh at a post, or belittle the concepts of an original poster. There are probably about a quarter of a million people on DU. Unfortunately, some enjoy ridiculing or scoffing at posts with which they don't agree. I've had it happen to me when I put up a post that's "out of the mainstream."

Put your ideas out there. Ignore those who would spit on your beliefs/ideas. Respond to and encourage those whose replies are thoughtful.

Response to Cyrano (Reply #19)

Cosmocat

(14,637 posts)
28. It isn't going to be good
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:51 PM
Dec 2022

for sure ...

Not much changed in the overall dynamics a month ago - it has not been a full on drop off the cliff into totarianism over the last four centuries. This was just them falling a little short of the mark this time. The country overall still continues to relentless indulge them, and to allow them to continue to destroy our norms and standards.

markodochartaigh

(1,292 posts)
40. I would also like to hear your ideas.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:25 PM
Dec 2022

I started on DU almost a decade ago, posted twice, and received very rude responses by people who had been on the site a long time. I left then, finally coming back a few months ago with a different username because I can't remember my old details. I will give you one of my futuristic takes: Most of the energy released from the burning of fossil fuels goes into heating the atmosphere, ocean, and land. Only about five percent goes into melting ice. Due to the latent heat of fusion of water it takes a large amount of energy to actually melt the ice. Some areas, New Orleans, Miami, Kolkata, Mumbai, Shanghai, the North China Plain, etc. are absolutely in danger due to sea level rise. But the people in any area more than a few of meters in elevation are not in danger due to sea level rise. By the time that sea level has risen a few meters enough energy will have been emitted to warm the atmosphere enough to have caused serial cereal harvest failures. Far more people will die from starvation and its sequalae than will die from sea level rise. Scientists are making progress toward heat resistant RuBisCo and RuBisCo activase, but I don't think that progress will come quickly enough.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. This is the game now. So, as said, bring it on.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 03:53 PM
Dec 2022
For over 30 years the GOP and other political players been pursuing this "the allegation IS the crime" strategy against the Democratic Party.

Maybe keep count of how many wins they get in court this time? In over 25 years of "investigations" of Hillary and Bill, not one crime that could and should be prosecuted was found and pursued. Zero. (The GOP's Lewinsky perjury trap was a special case created by the GOP.)

During the 2016 Democratic primaries, the LW populist campaign filed a whole bunch of lawsuits alleging state Democratic parties were stealing the primary elections, and they loudly claimed it happened in many others but didn't follow through on their threats to take them to court. I didn't think to keep count until it was too late, either the lawsuits actually filed in court or the ones they were "considering," but together almost every state whose voters chose the other candidate. Although none of these allegations were ever dropped ("zero" ), we all know how many of the suits filed were also not dropped after the press moved on and before actual, you know, evidence had to be produced: Zero.

So, since that's the game, and since the MSM don't keep count of all the phony investigations, allegations and lawsuits against Democrats/Democratic Party that fail to be valid, it might be worth doing for ourselves this time. Even fun. It'll be zero for them, but out of how many?

Cyrano

(15,129 posts)
21. Their investigations help drive their propaganda
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:36 PM
Dec 2022

Far too many people buy the snake oil they're selling and vote accordingly.

One extreme example is the Repulican/QAnon lie that Hillary was running a child sex-abuse ring in the basement of a pizzeria in Washington DC. One nut who believed it went into the pizza parlor (that didn't have a basement) with an AR 15. Fortunately, no one was killed. But the never-ending propaganda and outright lies of the Republican Party are a clear and present danger. And it also influences how some people vote.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. Absolutely. Vote AND donate accordingly. Dangerously efffective rackets.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:06 PM
Dec 2022

And with social media weaponized to produce donations EVERY time someone from the right or illiberal left phony-charges or even calls for investigations of Democrats to believers trained to regard opposition as wisdom,, donations get a bump. The noisier, and more outrageous, the allegations, the Bigger the Money.

The wildly successful "rigged elections" deceit narratives have become huge cash cows that will produce for all anti-Democratic factions with just occasional repriming for years, decades even.

But constant poisonous propaganda dribbles, top of the pack constantly sneaking in allegations against Democrats by calling us "congress" and false-identifying us with Republicans, also work appallingly well.

That's the game. People's heads are the ball to be kicked through the goal posts.

betsuni

(26,347 posts)
55. "sneaking in allegations against Democrats by calling us "congress" and false-identifying us
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 12:19 AM
Dec 2022

with Republicans ... ."

Just saw one: "The billionaire class? Doing phenomenally well. Huge corporations? Enjoying record profits. The working class? Falling further and further behind. Yes, it's time Congress prioritized the needs of the people."

Both sides. Same old Democrats-are-ignoring-the-working-class-beholden-blah-blah-blah. Not helpful.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
56. That constant dribble of vote-discouraging poison.
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 11:06 AM
Dec 2022

The dribblers would never admit that what they crave is the identity and power of Democratic Party progressives. Democrats are the ONLY ones who've ever been ABLE to prioritize the people against the enormous opposition of the billionaires and the GOP that serves them.

And of little factions whose primary political reason for existence is opposition itself.

world wide wally

(21,762 posts)
17. Has anyone heard of even ONE Republican plan on what do do besides
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:01 PM
Dec 2022

impeach and investigate?
I haven't.
It's all about the revenge. ALL about that.

Cyrano

(15,129 posts)
39. In Georgia, 1.7 Million people voted for the crazy
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:23 PM
Dec 2022

Hershel Walker lost, but it was far too close. The only lesson the Republicans took away is that they had to find a way to suppress more (black) voters.

RobinA

(9,964 posts)
20. I Suspect
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:24 PM
Dec 2022

every President from here on out will be impeached if there is a House of the opposite party. The door was opened with Clinton, then the retaliation with Trump. Now it'll just be constant.

Elessar Zappa

(14,338 posts)
23. Trump wasn't impeached
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:44 PM
Dec 2022

in retaliation for Clinton. He was impeached because he’s a criminal. And Dems won’t impeach unless there’s a valid reason.

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
50. No, it was Nixon that opened the impeachment door.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:59 PM
Dec 2022

Clinton's impeachment was the revenge investigations finally finding something th hang it on.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
59. Not retaliation
Tue Dec 13, 2022, 11:23 AM
Dec 2022

Dump is a career criminal who committed numerous crimes while in office. Including malfeasance during the pandemic which murdered millions of people, inciting an insurrection and attempted coup, and the theft and possible sale of classified documents.

Bettie

(16,270 posts)
22. I kind of expect it to happen
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:40 PM
Dec 2022

monthly, because they want to do anything but their actual jobs.

They just want to fling poo.

Walleye

(31,706 posts)
27. As Liz Cheney said, these are not serious people
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:49 PM
Dec 2022

Fortunately they’re so fucking incompetent they will probably just step on their own dicks

Bev54

(10,202 posts)
32. I am not convinced they will have the numbers in the house to even impeach let alone not
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 04:56 PM
Dec 2022

in the senate to convict. There are some repubs in close districts that may well not want to put their next election at risk for a completely bogus political stunt.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
44. Hmmmm
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:48 PM
Dec 2022

One of their member openly fantasized about assaulting the capitol and how well she would have done it and... been armed...


So How DO YOU think the next 2 yrs are going to be?


How the Dems lost the house i will never understand. I don't think the GOP could have picked a worst roster if it wanted. Between Boebert, Greene, Gosar, Geatz, Jordan there is so much material there any campaign manager worth their salt could have run just devastating campaigns against these people and pretty much the rest of the GOP house.

I remember when Gary Hart simply had a woman who was not his wife sit on his lap and Republicans were able to use that so effectively he had to drop out of the race president (it didn't help that he dared the media to find something,... they did) and that was when there was only 3 news shows on TV, not the endless methods that exist now to get a perception to stick.

These 5 above lied about a virus that has killed over 1 million Americans. Agreed with the events of Jan 6th and so much more.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
48. I believe the woman did more than sit on Gary Hart's lap.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:56 PM
Dec 2022

There was some 'Monkey Business' going on. (the name of the yacht they were on).

Orrex

(63,457 posts)
46. I made this same observation some while ago
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:53 PM
Dec 2022
link

I was thankfully (it seems) wrong about their pick as House Speaker, but I also predicted that they'd go for three impeachments to "prove" that Biden is worse than Trump.

Hats off to gab13by13 for calling the Senate correctly though, when the media in general (including NPR) were declaring both the House and Senate in favor of Republicans starting on the afternoon of Biden's inauguration.

ancianita

(36,566 posts)
47. They've got NOTHING that passes evidentiary standards. OR ethical standards.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:56 PM
Dec 2022

This is their own abuse of power for no other purpose than to stir up political culture war battles.

ShazzieB

(17,051 posts)
49. And the Democratic controlled Senate will acquit him.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 05:58 PM
Dec 2022

If thats what the Repugs want to waste their time on, well...

hadEnuf

(2,332 posts)
53. The Republican party no longer serves any useful purpose regarding the governing of this country.
Mon Dec 12, 2022, 06:26 PM
Dec 2022

They are nothing more than a hate-filled, vengeful mob of fascists, neo-Nazis, violent insurrectionists, Confederates, militias bent on wreaking havoc & violence, propagandists, outright criminals and individuals who want to literally destroy the democratic process as it now stands.

I would like to hear at least one redeeming quality that is left within the Republican party. ONE. I honestly cannot think of one because there are little redeeming qualities left, if any.

The "old" Republican party is gone. Many do not yet realize it yet, but it has been consumed by the monster of its own creation. The moderates or liberals within the former party are not going to come to rescue it. They will either go along or be run out.
The monster has now become too powerful.

Trying to negotiate or be bipartisan with this monster-party is a fool's game. They have absolutely no intention of doing anything of the sort. There may be a few who will vote sanely now and again, but it only seems to happen when they have a partisan interest in the legislation. Otherwise, if they actually do stand-up or vote for what is right, they are eviscerated and practically drummed out of the party.

What is the point of treating these people like they are members of a party that no longer exists? They have now turned into a monstrosity that just bears the Republican name. We need to start dealing with them as they really are, not how they were.






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