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sheshe2

(84,247 posts)
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:01 PM Dec 2022

It's racism

They hate her because she is,
A black woman, a successful athlete and a millionaire who happens be gay. She is a proud woman.

They say she hates America because she leaves the field when the National Anthem is played. 'They' being the far right are vilifying her and saying she should be sent back to Russia because of her hatred. They say he, Whelan, is an American hero. Fact is he was court-martialed and dishonorably discharged. More lies to smear Griner's release. This doesn't mean he should not come home, he should.

Let's look at that song and the reason she leaves the field.




MORE PROOF THE U.S. NATIONAL ANTHEM HAS ALWAYS BEEN TAINTED WITH RACISM
Our current difficulty in facing our past honestly and soberly strongly suggests that we are still a long way from laying it to rest.

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“The Star-Spangled Banner” itself, including whether it should be rewritten or replaced entirely.

The very fact this controversy was surprising may be the most significant thing about it. It’s the clearest demonstration possible that even in 2016, the U.S. has barely begun dragging the unflattering aspects of its past out into the light. Part of that means facing the reality that everything about “The Star-Spangled Banner” — its lyrics, its author, and the path it took to becoming the national anthem — is inextricably bound up with America’s gruesome history of racism.

The Meaning of “The Hireling and Slave”

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By the mid-1800s, the phrase “hireling and slave” could be found in the writing of slavery’s supporters to differentiate between wage laborers and those in actual bondage. Whether this usage was adopted from “The Star-Spangled Banner” or the other way around is unclear, but William Grayson, a U.S. representative from South Carolina, even titled a famed 1855 pro-slavery poem “The Hireling and the Slave.” Grayson contended that slavery had been a “blessing” for Africans and was morally superior to a system of wage work. Grayson also described whites using a new term he had coined: a “master race.”

https://theintercept.com/2016/09/13/more-proof-the-u-s-national-anthem-has-always-been-tainted-with-racism/

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It's racism (Original Post) sheshe2 Dec 2022 OP
Damn right. Kath2 Dec 2022 #1
That was a very interesting read, sheshe. brer cat Dec 2022 #2
Bad Conduct Discharge NowISeetheLight Dec 2022 #3
Wasn't he doing industrial intelligence orthoclad Dec 2022 #5
And the SSB is an ugly song, orthoclad Dec 2022 #4
K&R Solly Mack Dec 2022 #6

NowISeetheLight

(3,943 posts)
3. Bad Conduct Discharge
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:30 PM
Dec 2022

Whelan received a bad conduct discharge which is one step above a dishonorable. Looking at the judges findings I don’t see anything honorable about this.

“ A military judge sitting as a special court martial convicted the appellant [Paul N. Whelan], consistent with his pleas, of attempted larceny, three specifications of dereliction of duty, making a false official statement, wrongfully using another's social security number, and ten specifications of making and uttering checks without having sufficient funds in his account for payment … He was sentenced to 60 days restriction, reduction to pay grade E-4, and a bad-conduct discharge. ”

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
5. Wasn't he doing industrial intelligence
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:46 PM
Dec 2022

when he was arrested? Maybe that espionage charge isn't far-fetched.

from wiki:
After a court-martial conviction in January 2008 on multiple counts "related to larceny", he was sentenced to 60 days restriction, reduction to pay grade E-4, and a bad conduct discharge.[9][10] The specific charges against him included "attempted larceny, three specifications of dereliction of duty, making a false official statement, wrongfully using another’s social security number, and ten specifications of making and uttering checks without having sufficient funds in his account for payment."[11]
....
Whelan was director of global security and investigations for BorgWarner, an international automotive parts manufacturer based in Michigan.[8] His work with Kelly Services and BorgWarner gave Whelan contacts with the U.S. intelligence community, federal agents and foreign embassies.[12]"

Why didn't Hair Furor bring him home?

orthoclad

(2,910 posts)
4. And the SSB is an ugly song,
Sat Dec 10, 2022, 10:37 PM
Dec 2022

hard to sing, suitable for drunks who don't care (it started life as a drinking song).

We have many better songs.

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