DeSantis forced to define the meaning of "woke" in court...

[Pluvious]

Some good replies too, heh

Governor Ron DeSantis’ lawyers were forced by the court to define “woke.” The lead lawyer described it as “The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.”

That’s an awfully woke definition. Everyone knows it actually just means “things Fox News Republicans don’t like” and can be used interchangeably with the word Communist.

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[OAITW r.2.0]

1. Seioualy, who wants to be "asleep"?

Only morons, I think.

[peppertree]

7. Where ignorance is bliss...

[IronLionZion]

15. Qanons claim they're awake but not woke

as in they believe in bonkers conspiracies but not systemic injustices

[patphil]

2. Actual dictionary definition, including new usage.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/woke

Traditional: past tense of wake.

Current: having or marked by an active awareness of systemic injustices and prejudices, especially those involving the treatment of ethnic, racial, or sexual minorities.

Of course we know how bad that is.

[TheBlackAdder]

11. Their definition used "The belief" as though it's non-fact based religious faith to discount it.

[Beartracks]

21. Good catch, and of COURSE it does. It's projection, as always.

Because being an "anti-woke" Republican is to have the belief that there are no systemic injustices, and further that there could never be any such thing, because acknowledging systemic problems is to give credence to the idea that government might have a role to play in their solution.

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[William Seger]

12. Yep, same evil and dangerous Communist stuff Jesus was peddling (nt)

[orthoclad]

17. My dad always said Jesus was the first communist

[patphil]

22. I think socialist is probably more accurate than communist.

[Genki Hikari]

23. Oh please

He was peddling hatred of other Jews (just about all of the book of John) and that foreigners were dogs (Matthew 15). He peddled the idea that families needed to turn against each other if any of them wouldn't suck up to him (Matthew 10). Oh--and don't forget peddling the idea that people who disagreed with him should get tortured forever (the list is too long of the citations).

That's about as woke as Ted Bundy being non-violent.

[TigressDem]

26. You haven't actually read the Bible, I take it.

Book of John - Hatred of Jews?

Ezrah, maybe could be taken that way.... but he was only concerned with Jews from Babylon and a lot of crazy stuff was going on there. He didn't want another Babylon.

Ezr 4:12
“The king should know that the Jews who came here to Jerusalem from Babylon are rebuilding this rebellious and evil city. They have already laid the foundation and will soon finish its walls.
Ezr 4:13
And the king should know that if this city is rebuilt and its walls are completed, it will be much to your disadvantage, for the Jews will then refuse to pay their tribute, customs, and tolls to you.


John 1-2
John the Baptist, preaching in the desert? No hatred.
Jesus gathering disciples. No hatred. Though Nathaniel did say nothing good comes out of Nazarath.

The Wedding at Cana - no hatred.

Jesus clears the Temple - possible misunderstanding. Jesus was pissed at people ripping off the Jews trying to go to pray at the Temple by rigging the money exchanges to their own favor.

Jesus and Nicodemus does show Jesus doesn't fully trust people, because there is potential for good and bad in us all.

[Jhn 3:16 KJV] 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

THAT IS THE WHOLE WORLD - no exceptions.

PEOPLE WHO EMBRACE EVIL and look at the example of Christ as somehow "wrong" condemn themselves. Those who "do the things that are moral in the light of day and don't hide their deeds" might not go to "Heaven" because they don't believe it exists, but they aren't judged as evil.

Jhn 3:18
“There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son.
Jhn 3:19
And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil.
Jhn 3:20
All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed.
Jhn 3:21
But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants.”

Jhn 3:36
And anyone who believes in God’s Son has eternal life. Anyone who doesn’t obey the Son will never experience eternal life but remains under God’s angry judgment.”


WHAT DID JESUS SAY? Love one another as I have loved you.

Do you have to be a Christian to be kind and caring? NO.


The woman at the well - no hatred there

Healing an Official's Son - no hatred there

Healing a lame man - no hatred there (Though the Pharisees gave him a hard time for healing on the Sabbath)

Jesus claims to be son of God - setting himself up to be crucified and since the Jews were waiting for a Messiah and he was there he told them.


NOW people who don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah, FINE. I don't judge and neither did Jesus. He pointed them back to Moses.


Jesus feeds the Multitude, Walks on the Water, Bread of Life - no hatred there

Many disciples deserted him, but Judas stayed to betray him.

Jhn 7:3
and Jesus’ brothers said to him, “Leave here and go to Judea, where your followers can see your miracles!
Jhn 7:4
You can’t become famous if you hide like this! If you can do such wonderful things, show yourself to the world!”
Jhn 7:5
For even his brothers didn’t believe in him.
Jhn 7:6
Jesus replied, “Now is not the right time for me to go, but you can go anytime.
Jhn 7 verse 7
The world can’t hate you, but it does hate me because I accuse it of doing evil.


He gave the Jews a lesson and talked about the hypocrisy of confronting him for healing on the sabbath, yet by their own law if a circumcision needed to be done on the sabbath an exception was made. AND he predicted he would be killed.

Let He Who Is Without Sin CAST the first stone - no hatred there

Jhn 8:26
I have much to say about you and much to condemn, but I won’t. For I say only what I have heard from the one who sent me, and he is completely truthful.”


The truth will set you free. (We aren't slaves! What does that mean?)

PEOPLE WHO HAVE MURDER IN THEIR HEART are EVIL and therefore NOT OF GOD.

Jesus was talking about their behavior and plotting his death. Just the facts that those things are not in line with God's will.
You don't frame someone who has done nothing wrong to be publicly murdered if you are a moral person.
Like the MAGATS these particular people were turning away from the very moral laws set down for their people.
It's the behavior he is confronting.

Jhn 8:39
“Our father is Abraham!” they declared. “No,” Jesus replied, “for if you were really the children of Abraham, you would follow his example.
Jhn 8:40
Instead, you are trying to kill me because I told you the truth, which I heard from God. Abraham never did such a thing.

Johm 9 Jesus heals a blind man - no hatred there (on Jesus' part. The Pharisees were LIVID)

John 10 Good Shepard, Son of God - no hatred there

John 11 Lazarus Raised from the Dead - no hatred there

The Pharisees plot Jesus' death because they think his type of radical ministry will bring the Romans down on them as a people.

TO BE A PHARISEE is to "know the Word of God," but TWIST IT TO YOUR OWN INTERPRETATION and to let FEAR RULE.


WHO ELSE DO WE KNOW THAT IS BEHAVING THAT WAY?


JUST BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE CLAIM that Jesus "hates the Jews" DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE.

John 12 - Anointing at Bethany, Jesus rides on a donkey, Predicts his death, Many still did not believe - no hatred, some warnings


John 13 - Jesus washes disciples feet, Predicts his betrayal, Sends Judas to betray him, Predicts Peter's Denial


Jhn 13:34
So now I am giving you a new commandment: Love each other. Just as I have loved you, you should love each other.
Jhn 13:35
Your love for one another will prove to the world that you are my disciples.”


John 14 - Jesus the Way
John 15 - Jesus the Vine

Jhn 15:13
There is no greater love than to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.
Jhn 15:14
You are my friends if you do what I command.

John 16 - What holds US separate from God is not believing in God.


SOME PEOPLE ARE FINE NOT BELIEVING...... but certain leaders in FEAR got Jesus killed to save themselves.


There is a SPIRIT OF TRUTH and there is a tangled web of lies. BOTH exist here on EARTH.


THE ONE YOU OPEN YOUR HEART TO forms the kind of person you will be.


John 17 - Jesus goes to prayer before his death

John 18 - Jesus interrogated and handed over to Romans - no hatred but he does imply the Pharisees are to blame, not Pilate
- Pilate trying to dodge the execution because he sees no reason for it

John 19 - Jesus Sentenced to Death, Crucifixion, Death of Jesus, Burial - no hatred from Jesus

John 20 - Resurrection and Greeting Mary Magdalene and Disciples - no hatred from Jesus

[TigressDem]

27. Matthew 15 -- Foreigners are dogs? You're funny.

He's already talked about Samaritans in a positive light.
He did much to INCLUDE all types of people and those outside the Jewish community.
He ate with Tax Collectors, former prostitutes, fishermen - all on the low scale in Jewish opinion at the time.

This is supposed to show that no matter who you are, it is your faith that is important.

Mat 15:24
Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.”
Mat 15:25
But she came and worshiped him, pleading again, “Lord, help me!”
Mat 15:26
Jesus responded, “It isn’t right to take food from the children and throw it to the dogs.”
Mat 15:27
She replied, “That’s true, Lord, but even dogs are allowed to eat the scraps that fall beneath their masters’ table.”
Mat 15:28
“Dear woman,” Jesus said to her, “your faith is great. Your request is granted.” And her daughter was instantly healed.

[TigressDem]

29. Matthew 10 - out of context

Mat 10:16
“Look, I am sending you out as sheep among wolves. So be as shrewd as snakes and harmless as doves.
Mat 10:17
But beware! For you will be handed over to the courts and will be flogged with whips in the synagogues.
Mat 10:18
You will stand trial before governors and kings because you are my followers. But this will be your opportunity to tell the rulers and other unbelievers about me.
Mat 10:19
When you are arrested, don’t worry about how to respond or what to say. God will give you the right words at the right time.
Mat 10:20
For it is not you who will be speaking—it will be the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
Mat 10:21
“A brother will betray his brother to death, a father will betray his own child, and children will rebel against their parents and cause them to be killed.

IE: YOU CHRISTIANS WILL BE BETRAYED EVEN BY YOUR OWN FAMILY --- he was not instructing them to betray anyone


Mat 10:22
And all nations will hate you because you are my followers. But everyone who endures to the end will be saved.


I GUESS HE GOT THAT RIGHT.


You hate him and anyone who believes in him too.



Jesus taught people to turn the other cheek. That's woke.

He taught us to feed one another food and spiritual sustenance. That's woke.

He washed his disciples' feet and told them to not be full of themselves because they are leaders.
Where do you think the idea "SERVANT of the PEOPLE" comes from.


JESUS KILLED NO ONE.


PEOPLE WHO HATE JESUS and his message sure killed a lot of Christians and anyone they consider "different"


So who is woke? Someone who lived their life to teach about forgiveness or someone who spits out hate?

You don't have to be a Christian to have a moral, rational bone in your body.

But you don't have to be against Christ to be woke either.



Just some thoughts.

[ExtremelyWokeMatt]

3. *giggle* I love that they have to explain that in court

And my screen name pays itself off

[2naSalit]

4. Impecable timing, I'd say.

Welcome to DU!

[Initech]

5. So basically anyone with an independent thought that doesn't watch Fox or attend church 24/7.

Got it.

[ecstatic]

6. Rethugs use it as a code word for black.

I'm glad they were forced to define it though.

[iluvtennis]

13. Exactly. n/t

[NoMoreRepugs]

8. "An ignorant fucking twat" - I can't stop laughing.

[orthoclad]

18. Who said that?

My net hygiene blocks twitter. I see an awful lot of "Link to tweet"s here and blank space.

Sounds like old SNL: "Jane, you're an ignorant slut."

[Takket]

9. and that is a BAD thing?

let's be real, "woke" for rethugs is a dogwhistle that means: acknowledging the rights and existence of anyone that isn't a cis white male evangelical.

[emulatorloo]

10. Someone should retweet Kath's tweet to Boebert.

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I never joined twitter so I can’t do it.

[orthoclad]

19. Maybe somebody could take a screen shot?

Or another way of quoting that tweet. I'd rather see an image than have that word in text.

[soldierant]

14. Being woke

beats the hell out of sleepwalking.

Gee - do you suppose some of those crazy ideas come from vivid dreams that they think really happened? That can be a symptom of a number of conditions. One is dementia.

[keithbvadu2]

16. Ashli Babbit was 'woke'.

Ashli Babbit was 'woke'.

[halfulglas]

20. Did she really say she thought WE were in the echochamber?

Say the people who bounce from Fox to Newsmax and all kind of other nutso places for their "news."

[MagickMuffin]

24. Visiting friend in Houston saw xtian billboard with an antiwoke message

Jesus was WOKE AF!

[TigressDem]

25. AAAAAAAnd?

“The belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them.”

Anyone who has eyes to see understands that "the system" isn't perfect.

All those who run for office understand there are things they can do to "make it better" better policies etc...

We update laws and have amended the Constitution to handle these kinds of issues.


SO I GUESS that is why rethugs put people in power who make sure whatever is broke stays broke because....

They are asleep at the wheel and think that is the best way to run a country.... into the ground.

[republianmushroom]

28. LIKE IT

[canetoad]

30. For anyone who doesn't know Kathy Burke

She played the wonderfully vulgar and profane Magda, Patsy's boss, on Absolutely Fabulous.

[Cha]

31. I just got a text from deSadist.. he supports

Walker.. BFD.

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