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Third Party Run for Trump? (Original Post) StClone Nov 2022 OP
Do it! Deep State Witch Nov 2022 #1
Both factions would be know-nothings EYESORE 9001 Nov 2022 #5
Republicans vs Frankenparty StClone Nov 2022 #10
The Frankenparty could be Orange on the electoral map. Captain Zero Nov 2022 #36
Please proceed 33taw Nov 2022 #2
:D mzmolly Nov 2022 #3
Please please please please please Victor_c3 Nov 2022 #4
I like it republianmushroom Nov 2022 #6
Weird technical question follows jmowreader Nov 2022 #7
Trump won't care StormKing Nov 2022 #15
Not possible... brooklynite Nov 2022 #8
Even if some do, is it not possible for him to play the spoiler in the general election? Raven123 Nov 2022 #9
He can certainly try...it just wouldn't be about electing him. brooklynite Nov 2022 #16
Of course, but Trump might like claiming the GOP couldn't win without him. Raven123 Nov 2022 #17
Yes but IF he feels he will be "robbed" prior to formal vote of primary. StClone Nov 2022 #13
That doesn't affect write-in votes, though, does it? Aristus Nov 2022 #23
Depends on the State... brooklynite Nov 2022 #24
That won't affect the Maga dumbshits, newdayneeded Nov 2022 #26
It does assume they can write his name. Captain Zero Nov 2022 #37
It seems that may not be true for presidential candidates... DemocraticPatriot Nov 2022 #28
Impossible. Even in the most pumpkin of days, his survival... TreasonousBastard Nov 2022 #11
Especially Since.... ProfessorGAC Nov 2022 #20
True, but he also has a strong revenge instinct. tinrobot Nov 2022 #33
his intention wouldn't be to win, newdayneeded Nov 2022 #39
Domestic oligarchs will snuff that out. gab13by13 Nov 2022 #12
No Republican Primary bpj62 Nov 2022 #14
Go for it! Run, Donny, run! yardwork Nov 2022 #18
Yes please! Emrys Nov 2022 #19
Not a chance. WarGamer Nov 2022 #21
I want him in the Republican primary kneecapping the other dolts. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2022 #22
We should be so lucky 0rganism Nov 2022 #25
All the Dems would snicker & say: "Please don't throw me in that briar patch!" Hekate Nov 2022 #27
Yes Please! BlueIdaho Nov 2022 #29
He might talk about it ad nauseam, but I doubt he would be able to assemble a team tanyev Nov 2022 #30
Yeah. They would expect to be paid. Captain Zero Nov 2022 #38
I doubt "GOP insiders fear Trump third party run if he loses primary." former9thward Nov 2022 #31
Sore Losers laws will not apply StClone Nov 2022 #32
From YOUR OP: former9thward Nov 2022 #34
Yes, please! UTUSN Nov 2022 #35

Deep State Witch

(10,482 posts)
1. Do it!
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 03:19 PM
Nov 2022

I've been saying for a while now that the Repubs are going to split into two parties.

Maybe they can call it the Know-Nothing Party 2.0?

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
4. Please please please please please
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 03:21 PM
Nov 2022

If he doesn’t get the nomination, he’ll almost have to. How else could he continue to mooch off of political contributions or use an active political career to help shield him from criminal prosecution?

brooklynite

(95,075 posts)
8. Not possible...
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 03:30 PM
Nov 2022

Too many States have a “sore loser” law that prohibits a candidate from getting on the ballot as an Independent or third party after losing a Primary.

StClone

(11,694 posts)
13. Yes but IF he feels he will be "robbed" prior to formal vote of primary.
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 03:39 PM
Nov 2022

He will officially take out his Independent candidate position prior to being formally rejected. Thus Trump will technically avoid state law violations.

Aristus

(66,531 posts)
23. That doesn't affect write-in votes, though, does it?
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 04:18 PM
Nov 2022

If every MAGAt in the country writes Trump in, that will split the right-wing vote just as effectively.

brooklynite

(95,075 posts)
24. Depends on the State...
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 04:20 PM
Nov 2022

Some States require a candidate to register as a write-in, otherwise the votes aren’t counted.

newdayneeded

(1,959 posts)
26. That won't affect the Maga dumbshits,
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 04:54 PM
Nov 2022

Last edited Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)

I've made OPs about this very thing. I'm convinced if trump isn't on the ballot 100s and 100s of thousands of trumpers are gonna write him in. This will mean Biden will cruise to a victory.

DemocraticPatriot

(4,545 posts)
28. It seems that may not be true for presidential candidates...
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 05:38 PM
Nov 2022

except in Texas and South Dakota. (I had believed as you do, but recently decided to research the question).


From Ballotpedia:

. Richard Winger, editor and publisher of Ballot Access News, has argued that, generally speaking, "sore loser laws have been construed not to apply to presidential primaries." In August 2015, Winger compiled a list of precedents supporting this interpretation. He argued that in 43 of the 45 states with sore loser laws on the books, the laws do not seem to apply to presidential candidates. Winger claimed that sore loser laws apply to presidential candidates in only two states: South Dakota and Texas.


https://ballotpedia.org/Sore_loser_laws_for_presidential_candidates,_2016

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
11. Impossible. Even in the most pumpkin of days, his survival...
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 03:34 PM
Nov 2022

instincts must be telling him that third party runs just don't win.

Didn't win for T. Roosevelt or any of the lesser knowns that tried it since. Orangeanus has to be aware of the doom that befell every one who tried.

tinrobot

(10,927 posts)
33. True, but he also has a strong revenge instinct.
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:50 PM
Nov 2022

If he can't have it, he'll go scorched earth on the nominee to make sure he/she can't have it, either.

newdayneeded

(1,959 posts)
39. his intention wouldn't be to win,
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 10:15 AM
Nov 2022

but to stick a fork in desatan with the 3rd party run. in typ trump fashion "if I can't win, no other repub can win either!"

bpj62

(999 posts)
14. No Republican Primary
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 03:40 PM
Nov 2022

Each party controls their primary process and it wouldn't surprise me if Trump demands that the party anoint him as the defacto candidate. Trump wants all the campaign cash he can grab and the Republicans do not want Trump to humiliate any of thier future Presidential candidates.
A third party run by Trump would create two Republican losers in one election and I don't think party hierarchy will allow that. I truly believe that the party faithful are hoping for a Trump indictment followed by a drawn out trial that ends in a conviction.

Emrys

(7,291 posts)
19. Yes please!
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 04:06 PM
Nov 2022

Much as I'd prefer never to hear that obnoxious drawl or see an image of that revolting bloated physog again, witnessing a record victory for the Democrats up and down the board would be worth the teeth-gritting.

There might be some mopping up to do as his more deranged supporters set about each other and anybody that got in the way, and the overspill had unfortunate consequences, but sometimes a festering boil's better lanced, sterilized and done for good.

WarGamer

(12,516 posts)
21. Not a chance.
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 04:12 PM
Nov 2022

1) Trump OWNS the GOP, why go 3rd Party?

2) Even if Trump lost a primary, he'd need to support the nominee to get the promise of a pardon and/or disabling any DoJ probes/investigations.

So... not a chance of a 3rd Party run.

BlueTsunami2018

(3,515 posts)
22. I want him in the Republican primary kneecapping the other dolts.
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 04:14 PM
Nov 2022

Piss Wig is now an asset to us. He can’t win the general, people already caught that act, but he can win the primary.

0rganism

(23,996 posts)
25. We should be so lucky
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 04:27 PM
Nov 2022

If this happens it will be the singlemost useful thing he's done for this country, I hope his loyal followers feel the same way.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
29. Yes Please!
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 05:40 PM
Nov 2022

I can see huge Democratic majorities in House and Senate along with another term with a Democrat in the White House if that stumble bum goes 3rd Party!

tanyev

(42,693 posts)
30. He might talk about it ad nauseam, but I doubt he would be able to assemble a team
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 05:48 PM
Nov 2022

capable of fulfilling all the legal requirements to get him on the ballot in all states and territories.

former9thward

(32,181 posts)
31. I doubt "GOP insiders fear Trump third party run if he loses primary."
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 05:52 PM
Nov 2022

GOP insiders would know that most states have "sore loser" laws which stop a candidate who loses a primary from being on the ballot in the general election.

in other states the time limits to get on the ballot for an independent/third party run in the general election would have run by the time a primary is held. So its impossible to get on the ballot.

Click bait article.

StClone

(11,694 posts)
32. Sore Losers laws will not apply
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 09:47 PM
Nov 2022

If he declares without going through the Republican nomination process the laws do not apply. Plus, write-in votes WILL HAPPEN if he goes rogue regardless of the process. These votes will be wonderfully wasted...

former9thward

(32,181 posts)
34. From YOUR OP:
Wed Nov 23, 2022, 12:42 AM
Nov 2022

"if he loses primary"

Which means he would be going through the Republican nomination process. Sore loser laws would apply. Trump would not engage in an embarrassing fruitless write in campaign.

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