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JCMach1

(27,626 posts)
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:30 AM Nov 2022

Should DU Remove Twitter Content?

I am interested to see people's take on this...


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Yes
49 (42%)
No
61 (52%)
Undecided
5 (4%)
Other (explain)
3 (3%)
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Should DU Remove Twitter Content? (Original Post) JCMach1 Nov 2022 OP
Deplatform Elon? Hell yes. NullTuples Nov 2022 #1
It would be nice if there were a simple screen grab feature to post images. TheBlackAdder Nov 2022 #30
There are browser plugins that screenshot, u/l to a cloud server & provide a link URL to embed? NullTuples Nov 2022 #62
Deplatform Laurence Tribe? He's asked that people NOT leave Twitter. pnwmom Nov 2022 #34
Short answer: yes. My follow of him has been dropped 2x now. Also, I'm getting tweets from RW NullTuples Nov 2022 #61
Laurence Tribe just tweeted that someone's been impersonating him on Mastodon, pnwmom Nov 2022 #65
And within hours of him posting that tweet, the imposter was taken down. NullTuples Nov 2022 #66
So? It was up there deceiving people for a period of time before Tribe posted his warning. pnwmom Nov 2022 #70
It was up for mere hours. There are 9 Lawrence Tribes on Twitter; none have been blocked. NullTuples Nov 2022 #71
How do you know the fake account was only up for a few hours, or that it would have been removed pnwmom Nov 2022 #73
By looking at the timestamps? NullTuples Nov 2022 #81
I agree & Prof Tribe isn't the Cha Nov 2022 #78
Surely this is a decision for those who actually run DU. Emrys Nov 2022 #2
"Vox Populi, Vox Dei!" regnaD kciN Nov 2022 #17
Give us a switch to turn them off. MicaelS Nov 2022 #33
Big Ditto. n/t Lucid Dreamer Nov 2022 #69
No kidding Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2022 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author NullTuples Nov 2022 #67
I am significantly below my threshold for such a drastic decision. Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #3
Fascism, hate, racism have to be deplatformed from media whose purpose JCMach1 Nov 2022 #4
Post removed Post removed Nov 2022 #5
Are you kidding me...? I have been a DUer since 2001... JCMach1 Nov 2022 #6
What does how long you've been on DU have to do with anything? Emrys Nov 2022 #7
You attacked me personally about why I posted, so I responded. JCMach1 Nov 2022 #8
What? How was anything I wrote a personal attack? Emrys Nov 2022 #9
In your world then, posing a question equates to "steaming in here laying down the law?" ZZenith Nov 2022 #12
The "laying down of the law" was in reply #4 muriel_volestrangler Nov 2022 #45
Exactly SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2022 #57
When tweets are reposted here they are just some ones opinions. True Blue American Nov 2022 #31
other, my explanation Captain Zero Nov 2022 #10
Agreed. I recall proposing this years ago. nt intrepidity Nov 2022 #40
This was already a popular refrain before Elon. We frequently see posts complaining about RockRaven Nov 2022 #11
I have always avoided Twitter because I believe it's format inherently inhibits meaningful dialog ZZenith Nov 2022 #14
Thank you for this moniss Nov 2022 #21
I agree with this and blacklisted Twitter before Elon Musk bought it. hunter Nov 2022 #52
Nope. Lucinda Nov 2022 #13
No RandySF Nov 2022 #15
So you are using a poll to try to convince DUers to revmclaren Nov 2022 #16
I respect your opinion moniss Nov 2022 #23
Just an example that any site has a negative effect revmclaren Nov 2022 #25
I believe moniss Nov 2022 #29
I got your post and enjoyed it thoroughly. ZZenith Nov 2022 #37
Here you go True Dough Nov 2022 #39
I'm guessing you both mean Slate? hlthe2b Nov 2022 #42
Thanks. You just made my day. NT mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2022 #43
Do you mean Slate? Slade is a rock band, apparently... hlthe2b Nov 2022 #41
Yes. Tired eyes. revmclaren Nov 2022 #51
Posting a bare Twitter link is a lazy fucking way to post. MicaelS Nov 2022 #75
Let everyone decide if they want to read tweets or not vlyons Nov 2022 #18
Exactly. Thank you. revmclaren Nov 2022 #19
But I think what some of us moniss Nov 2022 #28
No. irisblue Nov 2022 #20
No. There are still great journalists on Twitter getting important messages out. Why chia Nov 2022 #22
+1. nt Tetrachloride Nov 2022 #24
+1. revmclaren Nov 2022 #26
And lawyers like Laurence Tribe. pnwmom Nov 2022 #35
Exactly. I miss Twitter because of people like Laurence Tribe. Lawyers, scholars, historians, chia Nov 2022 #53
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2022 #27
No. Celerity Nov 2022 #32
I voted against my own interests here Dorian Gray Nov 2022 #36
I voted OTHER... Lucid Dreamer Nov 2022 #77
Is book banning next? True Dough Nov 2022 #38
I get the desire based on Musk's actions and future concerns, but much of what we hear from Ukraine hlthe2b Nov 2022 #44
No Emile Nov 2022 #46
not only no, but hell no. and it'd be nice if those of us still using it to catch less shade 4 it. mopinko Nov 2022 #47
This is silly. /nt yardwork Nov 2022 #48
basically this JuJuChen Nov 2022 #49
No. I joined Twitter in 2021 to get videos and updates from Ukraine MaryMagdaline Nov 2022 #50
If there's nothing remaining on Twitter but wingnut drivel, then yes Wednesdays Nov 2022 #54
NO! quaint Nov 2022 #55
Absolutely not, unless the content of the tweet violates the TOS. Talitha Nov 2022 #56
I voted other because I think a Twitter forum would be great. Treefrog Nov 2022 #58
For now, yes. nt Maru Kitteh Nov 2022 #59
Twitter content should not be removed from DU. Caliman73 Nov 2022 #60
Yes, but this concept could be applied to moonscape Nov 2022 #74
I agree 100%. Caliman73 Nov 2022 #79
Like they used to say in the 90's, Hell to the No! Polybius Nov 2022 #63
No. ismnotwasm Nov 2022 #68
imo, there are too many posts that are just tweets Mr. Sparkle Nov 2022 #72
Yes. roamer65 Nov 2022 #76
No Trump tweets, please LeftInTX Nov 2022 #80
We can discuss the topics/posts without a direct link to their site giving them extra traffic. Doremus Nov 2022 #82
Get rid of it everywhere, along with Fox News GoodRaisin Nov 2022 #83
No, no censorship nt Raine Nov 2022 #84

TheBlackAdder

(28,460 posts)
30. It would be nice if there were a simple screen grab feature to post images.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:03 AM
Nov 2022

.

If DU did it locally, that would require further moderation and a pile storage management.

If there were a simple service to do it that would be better.


I use imgflip often, but that entails a VPN, screen grab, meta data stripping, uploading, saving and attaching.
I'm sure there is some meta that goes with my upload that I can't suppress, but as you can see it's cumbersome.


.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
62. There are browser plugins that screenshot, u/l to a cloud server & provide a link URL to embed?
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 02:37 PM
Nov 2022

I've not dug into how much metadata they strip yet.

pnwmom

(109,170 posts)
34. Deplatform Laurence Tribe? He's asked that people NOT leave Twitter.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:18 AM
Nov 2022



I noticed my number of followers drop for the first time in a couple weeks right after Trump‘s return was announced. My advice: If you’re following me, don’t depart Twitter, thus diminishing my reach; just don’t pay attention to Trump!

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
61. Short answer: yes. My follow of him has been dropped 2x now. Also, I'm getting tweets from RW
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 02:34 PM
Nov 2022

figures in my timeline and I don't follow them (nor are they retweets from people I follow, nor are they marked as promoted).

Elon has begun using Twitter as a political tool.

I've mostly moved to Mastodon. Most Democratic leaders have, too or are in the process of doing so, as have many journalists & other left/leaning activists. There's a lot more control over there & the creators, developers and maintainers tend to not be right-wing. Rather, quite the opposite.

The real answer is not for people to stay, but for Lawrence Tribe to migrate.

pnwmom

(109,170 posts)
65. Laurence Tribe just tweeted that someone's been impersonating him on Mastodon,
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 02:40 PM
Nov 2022

so you shouldn't have any more confidence about accounts you're following there.


pnwmom

(109,170 posts)
70. So? It was up there deceiving people for a period of time before Tribe posted his warning.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:03 PM
Nov 2022

Should Tribe have to monitor every social media site for imposters?

And Mastodon is open-source, so it's a ripe target for hackers.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
71. It was up for mere hours. There are 9 Lawrence Tribes on Twitter; none have been blocked.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:55 PM
Nov 2022

"Should Tribe have to monitor every social media site for imposters?"

That's something all public or authority figures already have to do, continually. It's been the case since the first spoofed email nearly a half-century ago. He could solve the problem by doing what so many others do: create an account on the other platform & post it in a location that's easy to access. That way anyone who reads him knows how to verify it's him.


Regarding, "...and Mastodon is open-source, so it's a ripe target for hackers."

A few thoughts from experts on the matter:

Regarding open source software (OSS), it's not necessarily more secure, but security-wise it has a lot going for it, especially with larger projects.
1. Many more eyes are looking to find and fix problems.
2. Open source projects fix vulnerabilities and release patches and new versions a lot faster.
3. Practically all commercial software uses a not-insignificant portion of open source

"Without the source code it is impossible to see what a program does. So open source software is seen as more secure as it is the only kind of software that can be checked for security at all without needing to blindly trust someone"

(note: This is why I run OSS on my home routers, servers & some clients. Most commercial, non-OSS ones send too much encrypted data back to their servers. In some cases it's been discovered they're sending back info about traffic they handle such as URLs visited. I feel sharing my family's internet usage was not included in the purchase price.)

"Open source is not automatically more secure than closed source. The difference is with open source code you can verify for yourself (or pay someone to verify for you) whether the code is secure. With closed source programs you need to take it on faith that a piece of code works properly, open source allows the code to be tested and verified to work properly."

pnwmom

(109,170 posts)
73. How do you know the fake account was only up for a few hours, or that it would have been removed
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 04:22 PM
Nov 2022

even if Tribe hadn't posted about it?

Cha

(300,180 posts)
78. I agree & Prof Tribe isn't the
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:03 PM
Nov 2022

only tweeter for Democracy staying.

Especially for Rev Warnock's Re-Election.

I don't have many followers but I just looked and there's only one who's gone for whatever reason.

TY!

Emrys

(7,424 posts)
2. Surely this is a decision for those who actually run DU.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:33 AM
Nov 2022

They have built the facility to post tweets into DU's code. It's their decision whether tweets are allowed or not, not some fatuous simplistic poll.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
33. Give us a switch to turn them off.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:14 AM
Nov 2022

I do not want to even SEE posts with nothing but Twitter links.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(110,289 posts)
64. No kidding
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 02:40 PM
Nov 2022

Kind of like Musk's poll restoring Trump?

Probably not. I imagine it's probably harder to do bots on DU.

Response to Emrys (Reply #2)

Tetrachloride

(8,097 posts)
3. I am significantly below my threshold for such a drastic decision.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:34 AM
Nov 2022

In general, I don’t have enough information.

This is not a game of checkers.

JCMach1

(27,626 posts)
4. Fascism, hate, racism have to be deplatformed from media whose purpose
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:39 AM
Nov 2022

Essentially is promotion of one kind of another (what Twitter does)...

Elon wants to create 4Chan on steroids and with a payment system to help spread these ideologies, scams and grifts.

Everyone... users, content creators, advertising, everyone needs to GTF off of there as soon as possible.

Response to JCMach1 (Reply #4)

JCMach1

(27,626 posts)
6. Are you kidding me...? I have been a DUer since 2001...
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:45 AM
Nov 2022

If you want to be on a system that actively supports hate,.feel free.

You can also visited Chic FIL a and stop by Hobby Lobby while you are busy tweeting.

I will not support it with my time, or money at this point.

And frankly, I don't want to see any content from there at this point.

Emrys

(7,424 posts)
7. What does how long you've been on DU have to do with anything?
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:47 AM
Nov 2022

You can decide for yourself, but it certainly doesn't give you seniority to dictate to other members what they do.

JCMach1

(27,626 posts)
8. You attacked me personally about why I posted, so I responded.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:49 AM
Nov 2022

For anyone else who is reading this, I am putting this person on ignore, for obvious reasons.

Emrys

(7,424 posts)
9. What? How was anything I wrote a personal attack?
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:53 AM
Nov 2022

Your behaviour in waiting until a very quiet time on DU to post this certainly raises my eyebrow, but you may have an explanation for the timing. And as for tone, you're the one who steamed in here laying down the law.

ZZenith

(4,184 posts)
12. In your world then, posing a question equates to "steaming in here laying down the law?"
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 04:06 AM
Nov 2022

Last edited Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:25 AM - Edit history (1)

Interesting take.

As for tone, I fully understand why JCMach1 posed the question and the timing of it is immaterial.

I, too, am curious as to the temperature of the room here in re: kicking Twitter to the curb and am glad people are responding.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,744 posts)
45. The "laying down of the law" was in reply #4
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:15 AM
Nov 2022

"Fascism, hate, racism have to be deplatformed from media whose purpose essentially is promotion of one kind of another (what Twitter does)..."

E"veryone... users, content creators, advertising, everyone needs to GTF off of there as soon as possible."

"Have to be", "everyone needs to GTF off" - yes, that's laying down the law.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
57. Exactly
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 01:44 PM
Nov 2022

Anyone who doesn't want to see Twitter content can abstain from doing so. But this idea that no one should see it betrays an authoritarian tone, IMO.

True Blue American

(18,036 posts)
31. When tweets are reposted here they are just some ones opinions.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:06 AM
Nov 2022

I would rather read what the poster thinks. If I wanted to read tweets I would go there. Just my opinion.

Captain Zero

(7,111 posts)
10. other, my explanation
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:55 AM
Nov 2022

Allow Twitter links only in a forum of their own
-or-
If a post in any forum references a twitter link then it should be denoted in the title line.

say you posted a twitter link in the general Discussion forum
then your title could begin with T-

T- Indiana Legislator was a Proud Boys Member in 2018

Users who didn't want to mess with twitter could just leave it alone.

RockRaven

(15,454 posts)
11. This was already a popular refrain before Elon. We frequently see posts complaining about
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 03:59 AM
Nov 2022

posts which consist of nothing but a tweet, and various suggestions about what to do about that. Teasing out the different reasons for an affirmative response might be informative.

ZZenith

(4,184 posts)
14. I have always avoided Twitter because I believe it's format inherently inhibits meaningful dialog
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 04:12 AM
Nov 2022

about the problems that confront us societally, and view it merely as the world’s largest bathroom wall.

I believed it to be a detriment long before the petulant maniac took it over and wish more DUers would put a little more effort into their posts than the mere regurgitation of another’s thoughts.

hunter

(38,552 posts)
52. I agree with this and blacklisted Twitter before Elon Musk bought it.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 09:48 AM
Nov 2022

If I click on a post that's just Link to tweet and nothing else I can instantly back out.

I might stick around if someone has copy-pasted the tweet and offered their own thoughtful opinion about it, but usually not.

I know people enjoy twitter and find it a valuable news alert service but it simply irritates me as a lot of things do.

A "Hide posts containing tweets" option would be a useful feature. I also hide posts containing "Trump" in the title.

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
16. So you are using a poll to try to convince DUers to
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 04:21 AM
Nov 2022

Last edited Mon Nov 21, 2022, 09:45 AM - Edit history (1)

suggest banning Twitter.

Didn't Elon Musk just get through using a unscientific poll on Twitter to justify bringing back tRump?

How about a poll to ban Politico? Lots of posters here hate it too.

How about Slate? You'll find alot here as well that cant stand them.

How about allowing nothing from YouTube?

How about nothing from any social media outlets that we personally hate. You can always find enough votes depending on the time of day and night.

Let's all close ourselves totally off from all reality. Put our heads in the sand and not have a say about the fascism and racism and pure evil being posted on sites such as Twitter.

Luckily, the DU admins know better. Luckily it wont happen.

Read, report, repeat. I'm always going to do that at Twitter and other forums.

Sad that so many here seem to have surrendered.

Oh well. I hope enough of us will be left to man the watchtowers.

Good night.



moniss

(4,389 posts)
23. I respect your opinion
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:01 AM
Nov 2022

but I really think that even mentioning banning Slade is a touchy subject. I mean there have been lean years and the plaid pants and jacket aren't for everybody but certainly "Run, Runaway" deserves some respect.

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
25. Just an example that any site has a negative effect
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:19 AM
Nov 2022

on some.

Any site could be sh%$ canned with enough negative votes in a random poll. That's why these types of polls are crap.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
75. Posting a bare Twitter link is a lazy fucking way to post.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 04:34 PM
Nov 2022

Give us a way to turn them off so we do not even see them.

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
19. Exactly. Thank you.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 04:37 AM
Nov 2022

No one on DU is on Twitter to post fascist content. We are there to see what's being posted ...to test the wind as it is.



moniss

(4,389 posts)
28. But I think what some of us
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:29 AM
Nov 2022

are seeing coming at us in short order is tons of Tweets about every crackpot Hunter Biden post getting linked over here in posts by trolls. I'd rather not have to spend time wading through all of that. It gets to be a bit like having to wade through hundreds of e-mails every day just to get to the one or two that you need/want to respond to. I think the mods here do a good job and loading them up with having to do tons of removals of hate/racist/anti-Semitic/homophobic etc. tweets that will be getting linked to posts here by the GQP trolls is not necessary and can be mostly avoided. If someone sees something on that platform and wants to say "hey I saw someone say....fill in the blank...." that's fine but you and I know that these kinds of posters are all about misleading people into clicking on something. I don't believe it's necessary for us to give that company/individuals clicks in order for someone to share with us a description of something they saw that they feel may be of interest over here.

This is just my take on it and I don't want to see the DU devolve into more and more crap postings. I know there may be some good people on that site but they have basically gutted their moderation and so I think it is wise to look ahead since we know what happens when moderation is minimal. Therefore I think the poll is timely in order to gauge how people on DU may feel about this and I think the discussion and variety of opinions here on all aspects is healthy.

chia

(2,246 posts)
22. No. There are still great journalists on Twitter getting important messages out. Why
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 04:55 AM
Nov 2022

would anyone want to stifle that?

pnwmom

(109,170 posts)
35. And lawyers like Laurence Tribe.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:20 AM
Nov 2022



I noticed my number of followers drop for the first time in a couple weeks right after Trump‘s return was announced. My advice: If you’re following me, don’t depart Twitter, thus diminishing my reach; just don’t pay attention to Trump!

chia

(2,246 posts)
53. Exactly. I miss Twitter because of people like Laurence Tribe. Lawyers, scholars, historians,
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 10:11 AM
Nov 2022

journalists, educators in the fields of science, medicine, technology. Researchers on domestic terrorism, white nationalism, Jan 6 insurrectionists. People with the knowledge to debunk misinformation and Russian propaganda about the war in Ukraine. Good news people like José Andrés and his World Kitchen, distributing meals wherever there is disaster and human need.

Yeah. I miss being there.

Response to JCMach1 (Original post)

Dorian Gray

(13,629 posts)
36. I voted against my own interests here
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 06:24 AM
Nov 2022

I hate threads that are just a link to a tweet.

But do I think that DU should REMOVE twitter content? No.

I think they should remove twitter content that breaks the stated rules on DU. Offensive content, etc. But twitter content can be news, spur discussion, and a generally all ban on it? That's getting too controlling.

Lucid Dreamer

(584 posts)
77. I voted OTHER...
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 04:42 PM
Nov 2022

I dislike Twit mucho. I have 3 accounts that I used years ago for experiments and to look at for some news.

I don't like the personal interactions that define it now.

BUT I would not be the one to disable it on DU for those who want to use it as a tool.

Threads that don't display I'll just skip over. It would be nice if a summary of the subject would be posted so I could understand what all the replies were referring to.

Thanx, Dorian. Your position parallels mine.

hlthe2b

(103,308 posts)
44. I get the desire based on Musk's actions and future concerns, but much of what we hear from Ukraine
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:14 AM
Nov 2022

comes from their use of Twitter--likewise Iran and other areas facing a crisis that SHOULD concern us all. Obviously, disinformation bots use it too and that requires discerning readers.

I posted a thread yesterday looking at some of the most respected legal, political, and journalistic sources on Twitter and whether or not they were staying there (for now). I'm not registered on Twitter, but I bookmarked the web address for their streams and follow them that way. It seems to me that many are staying for now and that includes some invaluable sources for us to know what our opponents and political "enemies" are doing behind the scenes--including any threats to democracy.

If this were merely a matter of losing celebrity news or overwhelming misinformation sources that accompany hate and bigotry, I'd be with you. But this is a double-edged sword right now.

Your reasons for wanting it banned here are the same ones that prevented me from EVER registering--even before Musk. But the reasons for thinking it should not still remain.

mopinko

(70,891 posts)
47. not only no, but hell no. and it'd be nice if those of us still using it to catch less shade 4 it.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 08:27 AM
Nov 2022

some days the judgy on here gets to me.
it's the modern public square, it just is. no way i will be pushed out by trolls and thugs and liars.
yes, more caution is called 4 these days, but that's not a bad thing.
i've seen very little change on the platform, tho i dont spend tons of time there. there is quite a bit of resistance.

you dont have to be in the arena, but it's just dumb to suggest that we wall off the arena.
none of the content you dont want to see gets posted here, or allowed to stand if it is.

ask yourself who wins if the left leaves the field of battle.

MaryMagdaline

(6,896 posts)
50. No. I joined Twitter in 2021 to get videos and updates from Ukraine
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 09:16 AM
Nov 2022

A lot of military experts post on Twitter and the updates and comments from ex-military people throughout the world have been informative. I only learned of certain posts because of DUers linking to Twitter.

(I actually am suspicious that Elon Musk is a Putin supporter who is deliberately destroying Twitter because it spreads news of how badly Russia is going. Hope that’s not too tinfoil hat for DU).

Wednesdays

(18,116 posts)
54. If there's nothing remaining on Twitter but wingnut drivel, then yes
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 10:18 AM
Nov 2022

If there are still good pro-Democratic voices on there, such as Lawrence Tribe, then no.

Talitha

(6,846 posts)
56. Absolutely not, unless the content of the tweet violates the TOS.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 12:12 PM
Nov 2022

I've been a Twitter-reader for many years and highly value the information learned in tweets from political, scientific and astronomical contributors that I follow. In fact, I learned about quite a few of them right here in DU.


 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
58. I voted other because I think a Twitter forum would be great.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 01:51 PM
Nov 2022

Like the video forum, it would go far to unclutter general discussion.

Twitter threads have taken over, and most are just not news.

I just do not care if Kanye or Kathy, Kate or Kim, or even Bette or George tweet something. It doesn't need to be posted in general discussion, imo.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
60. Twitter content should not be removed from DU.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 01:55 PM
Nov 2022

It should however, be contextualized, as part of a discussion. The problem I have with ANY content from external sites, is not the content itself, but that often the person posting offers NOTHING in terms of WHY they are posting it. They just plop it down without asking any questions, making any commentary, etc...

So my issue is not necessarily the content, but the posters who don't take the time to put anything behind the external information they bring in, no matter what the source. The TOS says that we shouldn't post right wing hate content, to which I largely agree. However, even the TOS allows for putting up right wing sites or stories if it is properly contextualized.

If I found a story on Breitbart that discussed right wingers new proposal to privatize Social Security, I could post it with commentary such as, "I found this story about how right wingers are starting to formulate a new argument around privatizing Social Security. I think that this new plan is ridiculous but dangerous, what do you all think?" I might even give my reasons why I think the plan was "ridiculous and dangerous" in the opening post.

The point is, I don't think that DU should remove Twitter Content, but the person who posts the content has an obligation to contextualize it for discussion with more than... "Posting this without comment" or some other such nonsense.

moonscape

(4,709 posts)
74. Yes, but this concept could be applied to
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 04:29 PM
Nov 2022

all posts. Twitter posts (I don’t make them, just observing) have far more native content than posts that say to turn on the TV now, or I can’t believe xyz said that’ etc with no accompanying clue or context. The later category posts can’t even stand on their own and are relatively frequent.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
79. I agree 100%.
Mon Nov 21, 2022, 05:31 PM
Nov 2022

That is why I said, regardless of the source, which would include TV, Newspaper headlines with no article, etc...

Tweets are typically videos or messages, or even re-Tweets of other people's messages. They certainly can have additional context that someone saying, "Biden is killing it right now". They can also be misleading or misinforming without context.

GoodRaisin

(9,072 posts)
83. Get rid of it everywhere, along with Fox News
Tue Nov 22, 2022, 01:31 AM
Nov 2022

If it’s just going to be another hate promoting platform. Bastions of hate all need to go. We’ve all seen what they do..

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