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Sun Nov 13, 2022, 09:55 AM

If Grassley was too old this year at 89, then is

Feinstein too old in 2024, at 91, to run again ? She has already filed.

I think it's a legitimate question to ask ourselves, especially with the increasing role of our young voters.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 09:57 AM

1. Age may not be the issue, but cognitive tests could prove when the time comes

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:38 AM

12. Cognitive tests for candidates? Cognitive tests for voters?

Seems like a slippery slope leaning sharply away from democracy.

Imagine Republicans demanding cognitive tests for Fetterman. Imagine Politicians making judgements about which cognitive tests are most accurate.

The most democratic method for selecting Democratic candidates is the primary. We have this already.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:00 AM

2. I think it depends on the individual. Age is a continuum. Even 40 yos can develop early dementia.

Any age threshold sans any other factor isn't just a bigoted approach, but a self-defeating approach in terms of experience, understanding of historical tactics, and potential. I'm thrilled Gen-Z elected one of their own in Florida. That is heartening. It is not proof that any individual over 40, 50, 60, 70 or whatever should be blocked.

That said, Feinstein has shown some symptoms that worry me. I do think Schumer and leadership will need to take her aside and deal with that in a sensitive manner. An individualized approach.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:04 AM

3. I agree

her seat is safe for Dems, time to take a bow.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:09 AM

4. Not only should age stop Grassley but that he was in on the 1/6/21 coup should have done it too.

Somehow I think that if you were in on supporting the violent overthrow of our elected democracy
I don't think you be a US Senator the same goes for holding a pistol to your wife's head and threatening
to shoot her (Herschel Walker).

"We don't expect him to be there," Grassley, 87, initially said of Pence, per Roll Call. As president pro tempore of the Senate, or the second-highest ranking official of the chamber, Grassley suggested he would stand in for Pence.

But within minutes, Grassley backtracked. "Every indication we have is that the vice president will be there," Grassley's office said, Roll Call reported.

After the confusion, Grassley's office said that the Iowa senator was simply trying to explain what would happen if Pence had to step away.

https://www.businessinsider.com/grassley-prompts-confusion-over-pence-electoral-college-certification-2021-1

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:26 AM

8. Franken never made an issue of this

I think that was a horrible mistake on his part. His only chance to win was to upset the apple cart. The GQP clowns can get away with making false and insane claims without any pushback, why can't our candidates bring up these questions in the form of accusations?

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:33 AM

11. Same with Ron Johnson too

The Democratic party keeps bringing butter knives to a gun fight. If you supported the 1/6/21 coup,
spent the 4th of July in Moscow, or voted to let Tump off the hook for trying to help Putin's war in
Ukraine and the blackmailing of President Zelenskyy to make up lies about the Bidens you should not
be in the American Government.

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Response to Botany (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:57 AM

14. Yes I didn't follow the Johnson election

but Johnson was one of the worst Senators in that whole mess (which is saying something) and he had no accountability either.


That very well could have taken both Sinema and Manchin off the board. It is a frustrating loss. Johnson was in a much weaker position than Grassley (my fellow Iowans are brain dead when it comes to him).

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:11 AM

5. Wisdom is knowing when it is time to step aside

Leaders stepping aside whether it is age, passion for the job, etc. is necessary for growth in the company, a community activity, a political office. The leaders in our Dem party are old. (So am I) It doesnít mean they arenít good at their job but they are old. We have excellent people a decade - and decades - younger. It is time to let them assume leadership roles. If the old guard has done their job, they have been grooming the younger members for the leadership tasks at hand.

From personal experience I can attest to how hard it is to step aside from a couple of wonderful leadership roles. But it was the right thing to do - and yes I was able to help my much younger replacement gain the experience he needed for the task at hand. He did great!!! And in truth, the organization is better for it. And me? I found some exciting new things to do. Life is good!!

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:17 AM

6. Just because she filed, doesn't mean she'll run.

Personally, I hope she passes the baton.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:26 AM

7. We have primaries. nt

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Response to delisen (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:40 AM

13. Not in the usual sense in California

there it is a jungle primary and top two move on.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:29 AM

9. Can Biden appoint her to an ambassadorship?

That seems the best place to continue your public service without the daily stress of being an elected official. Of course these presupposes that the Democrats win the presidency in 2024. Otherwise her ambassadorship will be short service.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:31 AM

10. The number isn't necessarily the issue, but the evidence around Feinstein speaks for itself.

The senate in particular is institutionally inclined to make it easy for staff to cover for aging members.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 11:32 AM

15. Yes, she is, and should retire. Nt

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 12:49 PM

16. So Ageism Is It...Again?

where a number of years trumps all else

If younger people want more younger reps. then they should get to work and also, do something they are not great at and vote.

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Response to Captain Zero (Original post)

Sun Nov 13, 2022, 01:16 PM

17. Dianne Feinstein who I admire, respect, and adore is very unlikely to run for another term.

Her act of "filing" is a technical necessity to maintain the legal standing of her campaign committee.

This filing ought not be used to suggest that she's intending to make another run.

I hope people think twice before bashing an outstanding Democrat.

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