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delisen

(6,081 posts)
12. Cognitive tests for candidates? Cognitive tests for voters?
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:38 AM
Nov 2022

Seems like a slippery slope leaning sharply away from democracy.

Imagine Republicans demanding cognitive tests for Fetterman. Imagine Politicians making judgements about which cognitive tests are most accurate.

The most democratic method for selecting Democratic candidates is the primary. We have this already.

hlthe2b

(103,028 posts)
2. I think it depends on the individual. Age is a continuum. Even 40 yos can develop early dementia.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:00 AM
Nov 2022

Any age threshold sans any other factor isn't just a bigoted approach, but a self-defeating approach in terms of experience, understanding of historical tactics, and potential. I'm thrilled Gen-Z elected one of their own in Florida. That is heartening. It is not proof that any individual over 40, 50, 60, 70 or whatever should be blocked.

That said, Feinstein has shown some symptoms that worry me. I do think Schumer and leadership will need to take her aside and deal with that in a sensitive manner. An individualized approach.

Botany

(70,925 posts)
4. Not only should age stop Grassley but that he was in on the 1/6/21 coup should have done it too.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:09 AM
Nov 2022

Somehow I think that if you were in on supporting the violent overthrow of our elected democracy
I don't think you be a US Senator the same goes for holding a pistol to your wife's head and threatening
to shoot her (Herschel Walker).

"We don't expect him to be there," Grassley, 87, initially said of Pence, per Roll Call. As president pro tempore of the Senate, or the second-highest ranking official of the chamber, Grassley suggested he would stand in for Pence.

But within minutes, Grassley backtracked. "Every indication we have is that the vice president will be there," Grassley's office said, Roll Call reported.

After the confusion, Grassley's office said that the Iowa senator was simply trying to explain what would happen if Pence had to step away.

https://www.businessinsider.com/grassley-prompts-confusion-over-pence-electoral-college-certification-2021-1

exboyfil

(17,880 posts)
8. Franken never made an issue of this
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:26 AM
Nov 2022

I think that was a horrible mistake on his part. His only chance to win was to upset the apple cart. The GQP clowns can get away with making false and insane claims without any pushback, why can't our candidates bring up these questions in the form of accusations?

Botany

(70,925 posts)
11. Same with Ron Johnson too
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:33 AM
Nov 2022

The Democratic party keeps bringing butter knives to a gun fight. If you supported the 1/6/21 coup,
spent the 4th of July in Moscow, or voted to let Tump off the hook for trying to help Putin's war in
Ukraine and the blackmailing of President Zelenskyy to make up lies about the Bidens you should not
be in the American Government.

exboyfil

(17,880 posts)
14. Yes I didn't follow the Johnson election
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:57 AM
Nov 2022

but Johnson was one of the worst Senators in that whole mess (which is saying something) and he had no accountability either.


That very well could have taken both Sinema and Manchin off the board. It is a frustrating loss. Johnson was in a much weaker position than Grassley (my fellow Iowans are brain dead when it comes to him).

zeusdogmom

(1,006 posts)
5. Wisdom is knowing when it is time to step aside
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:11 AM
Nov 2022

Leaders stepping aside whether it is age, passion for the job, etc. is necessary for growth in the company, a community activity, a political office. The leaders in our Dem party are old. (So am I) It doesn’t mean they aren’t good at their job but they are old. We have excellent people a decade - and decades - younger. It is time to let them assume leadership roles. If the old guard has done their job, they have been grooming the younger members for the leadership tasks at hand.

From personal experience I can attest to how hard it is to step aside from a couple of wonderful leadership roles. But it was the right thing to do - and yes I was able to help my much younger replacement gain the experience he needed for the task at hand. He did great!!! And in truth, the organization is better for it. And me? I found some exciting new things to do. Life is good!!

exboyfil

(17,880 posts)
9. Can Biden appoint her to an ambassadorship?
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:29 AM
Nov 2022

That seems the best place to continue your public service without the daily stress of being an elected official. Of course these presupposes that the Democrats win the presidency in 2024. Otherwise her ambassadorship will be short service.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,742 posts)
10. The number isn't necessarily the issue, but the evidence around Feinstein speaks for itself.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 10:31 AM
Nov 2022

The senate in particular is institutionally inclined to make it easy for staff to cover for aging members.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
16. So Ageism Is It...Again?
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 12:49 PM
Nov 2022

where a number of years trumps all else

If younger people want more younger reps. then they should get to work and also, do something they are not great at and vote.

 

Just A Box Of Rain

(5,104 posts)
17. Dianne Feinstein who I admire, respect, and adore is very unlikely to run for another term.
Sun Nov 13, 2022, 01:16 PM
Nov 2022

Her act of "filing" is a technical necessity to maintain the legal standing of her campaign committee.

This filing ought not be used to suggest that she's intending to make another run.

I hope people think twice before bashing an outstanding Democrat.

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