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Jilly_in_VA

(10,160 posts)
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:14 PM Nov 2022

Russian Wives Now Threatening Ride-Share to Go Get Their Men Back From Ukraine

More than 20 wives of Russian draftees are threatening to hitch a ride to the frontline in Ukraine to pull their husbands out of the war, according to a new report.

The women, from the Kursk and Voronezh regions, have traveled to Belgorod to confront the military leadership at the base from where their husbands were sent, the independent outlet Mozhem Obyasnit reports.

“We’re stopping the cars that go through the [guard] post. We’re tearfully asking them to give us cars to pull our guys out of there. We told them one thing—if they don’t come out and help us, then we, including a pregnant girl, will go to the frontline. If they won’t help [our guys], then we will. We’re going to get our husbands, there’s no other way,” one woman was quoted saying from the city of Valuyki.

The wives’ uprising at the military base is just the latest demonstration of growing outrage from family members of draftees who say the Russian military has knowingly sent the men to die in Ukraine with no equipment, training, or leadership. It’s also just the latest evidence of waning domestic support for the war as more and more ordinary Russians feel just a fraction of the fallout that Ukrainians have been suffering for nearly nine months.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-wives-now-threatening-ride-share-to-go-get-their-men-back-from-ukraine

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Russian Wives Now Threatening Ride-Share to Go Get Their Men Back From Ukraine (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Nov 2022 OP
It was the draft that ended the Vietnam 'police action'. cbabe Nov 2022 #1
1917. 1991 Soviet mothers of troops dead in Afghanistan had a big part in breakdown of SU. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2022 #4
heartbreaking NJCher Nov 2022 #2
... Disaffected Nov 2022 #5
I like it republianmushroom Nov 2022 #3
Better go suppress them, Vlad. maxsolomon Nov 2022 #6

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,307 posts)
4. 1917. 1991 Soviet mothers of troops dead in Afghanistan had a big part in breakdown of SU.
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:43 PM
Nov 2022

The October Revolution followed and capitalized on the February Revolution earlier that year, which had overthrown the Tsarist autocracy, resulting in a liberal provisional government. The provisional government had taken power after being proclaimed by Grand Duke Michael, Tsar Nicholas II's younger brother, who declined to take power after the Tsar stepped down. During this time, urban workers began to organize into councils (soviets) wherein revolutionaries criticized the provisional government and its actions. The provisional government remained unpopular, especially because it was continuing to fight in World War I, and had ruled with an iron fist throughout the summer (including killing hundreds of protesters in the July Days).


In September, the garrisons in Petrograd, Moscow, and other cities, the Northern and Western fronts, and the sailors of the Baltic Fleet declared through their elected representative body Tsentrobalt that they did not recognize the authority of the Provisional Government and would not carry out any of its commands.[11]

Soldiers' wives were key players in the unrest in the villages. From 1914 to 1917, almost 50% of healthy men were sent to war, and many were killed on the front, resulting in many females being head of the household. Often—when government allowances were late and were not sufficient to match the rising costs of goods—soldiers' wives sent masses of appeals to the government, which went largely unanswered. Frustration resulted, and these women were influential in inciting "subsistence riots"—also referred to as "hunger riots," "pogroms," or "baba riots." In these riots, citizens seized food and resources from shop owners, who they believed to be charging unfair prices. Upon police intervention, protesters responded with "rakes, sticks, rocks, and fists."[12]

Antiwar demonstrations

In a diplomatic note of 1 May, the minister of foreign affairs, Pavel Milyukov, expressed the Provisional Government's desire to continue the war against the Central Powers "to a victorious conclusion", arousing broad indignation. On 1–4 May, about 100,000 workers and soldiers of Petrograd, and, after them, the workers and soldiers of other cities, led by the Bolsheviks, demonstrated under banners reading "Down with the war!" and "All power to the soviets!" The mass demonstrations resulted in a crisis for the Provisional Government.[13] 1 July saw more demonstrations, as about 500,000 workers and soldiers in Petrograd demonstrated, again demanding "all power to the soviets," "down with the war," and "down with the ten capitalist ministers." The Provisional Government opened an offensive against the Central Powers on 1 July, which soon collapsed. The news of the offensive's failure intensified the struggle of the workers and the soldiers. A new crisis in the Provisional Government began on 15 July.


Weakening of the Soviet Union

According to scholars Rafael Reuveny and Aseem Prakash, the war contributed to the fall of the Soviet Union by undermining the image of the Red Army as invincible, undermining Soviet legitimacy, and by creating new forms of political participation.[citation needed] On the other hand, the costs for the Soviet Union were not overwhelmingly large compared to other commitments.[380] The CIA estimated in 1987 that the costs amounted to about 2.5 percent of the Soviet military spending per year.[381] The decision to withdraw was made based on a number of political factors.[382] The studies about the dissolution of the Soviet Union by historians Stephen Kotkin and Vladislav Zubok identify mainly internal reasons for the collapse and mention the Afghanistan war only in passing.[383][384]


NJCher

(36,079 posts)
2. heartbreaking
Thu Nov 10, 2022, 01:36 PM
Nov 2022

Their husbands are not cannon fodder: they are loved ones, essential to the emotional well being of their families, and in other ways.

This is so valiant. I admire these women so much. My heart goes out to them.

I would never want to be put in the position of thinking my loved one was just a means to an end for some megalomaniac's quest for power.

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