"A child living out part of his or her life as an ectopic pregnancy is still a unique human being.."

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"A child living out part of his or her life as an ectopic pregnancy is still a unique human being with its own DNA. I don't understand why we allow those children to be murdered."—Okla Sen. Warren Hamilton

Ectopic pregnancies KILL women & are NEVER viable.

GOP in a nutshell.


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8:55 AM · Nov 7, 2022

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. IT'S NOT A CHILD IN AN ECTOPIC PREGNANCY, YOU BRASS-PLATED IDIOT!

It's a potential life.

Or would have been if it hadn't landed in the Fallopian tube.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. Those bible beater rednecks have gone mad.

This is completely off the rails.

[leftieNanner]

3. Why didn't anyone in that "august body"

explain to him what an ectopic pregnancy is??

I agree with you Nevilledog.

[Docreed2003]

4. 🤬🤬🤬

How much longer will we allow these mouth-breathers to spew this kind of garbage as if it's actually meaningful or based in science??

Ectopic Pregnancies KILL women if left untreated. There's no path to viability in that scenario.

[barbtries]

5. oh FFS

wants women to die for a non-viable collection of cells.

never fucking tell me that republicans don't hate women. they do too.

[ck4829]

6. Republicans playing doctor...

Never a good idea

[Traildogbob]

23. Right

How do you PLAY doctor if you do not believe in science. Pretty damn sure they would not allow a science denying individual perform a colonoscopy on them.

[LuckyCharms]

8. Jesus Christ.

[Maru Kitteh]

93. Yup. That's the problem right there.

Jeebus.

[keithbvadu2]

9. Would he encourage his wife, daughter, granddaughter to die because of it?

Would he encourage his wife, daughter, granddaughter to die because of it?

[Hekate]

31. Yes. He cannot grasp the reality at all. All fertilized eggs look like a teeny tiny Gerber Baby...

No woman ever dies from childbirth. No woman ever dies from pregnancy. Their graves are silent.

I feel sorry for the women in his family, but as with the AIDS crisis, when there were a bunch of people who only woke up to reality when it was their own son, grandson, or nephew who died. He and others like him will refuse to see the reality of pregnancies gone bad only when it happens to someone they love.

[Demobrat]

38. Yes. They had sex. They had their fun.

Then god decided on their punishment.

[NowISeetheLight]

70. Then they shouldn't need healthcare?

He’ll we can save Medicare now then. Any Republican could be purged from the Medicare rolls. After all GOD is in the drivers seat for them. If they get an illness or injury it’s part of GODS PLAN. Then they can pray for healing. They don’t need medicine or a hospital.

[keithbvadu2]

43. They play doctor in the legislature... and/or God

They play doctor in the legislature

[MarcA]

52. Apparently he thinks her reciting the Declaration of Independence

is more important. The guy is a real full-on Xtian Nationalist from an Authoritarian background and Q to the hilt according his vitae on various websites.

[Lars39]

10. He goes on my "No TURP" list.

His penis is involved (catheter), and there’s a good chance he could die (sepsis), or be maimed (burst bladder).
Any male that spouts this maliciously stupid shit gets put on that list.

[betsuni]

11. My brains hurt.

[peppertree]

30. +1

[betsuni]

80. Perfect.

[peppertree]

81. Why, thank you.

It's not often these days that a Republican opens their mouth, and that clip wouldn't apply.

It's been one, huge race to the bottom for Repugs.

[LakeArenal]

12. Do they not get that both die?

Such liars.

[Rebl2]

18. Apparently not

But I really think they do and they hate women.

[NowISeetheLight]

72. Look at the sponsors below...

Of his January 2021 bill to outlaw all abortion for any reason. It’s who’s who of the Baptists. Women should learn their place and be subservient to men. Women are their PROPERTY. Heck even Jimmy Carter left them because they’re right out of The Handmaidens Tale.

“This bill is supported by Southern Baptists for the Abolition of Abortion; Freewill Baptists Abolitionist Society; Free the States; Oklahomans United for Life; The Ekklesia of Oklahoma; City Elders; Fairview Baptist Church in Edmond; Reclaiming America for Christ; OCPAC; Western Oklahoma Christians for Liberty; Congressional District 3 Republican Party Chairman Daniel Navejas; and Logan County Republican Chairman Kyle Brown.”

https://oksenate.gov/press-releases/sen-warren-hamilton-files-equal-protection-and-equal-justice-act

[paleotn]

25. They don't care....

It's all for the greater "good." Control of women and other assorted religo-nut garbage.

[Hekate]

37. There is a persistent oft-expressed fantasy that the fertilized egg can be treated like IVF...

“You can just implant it in the womb, right?” No, actually not.

By the way, these same people would be horrified at the wastage of fertilized eggs in IVF treatments. Then further horrified that their own ill-considered laws would outlaw that procedure and close fertility clinics because of the “personhood at conception” idiocy.

[wnylib]

50. They already oppose IVF for that reason.

[Farmer-Rick]

13. What child?????

There's no child nor will there ever be a child in an eptopic pregnancy.

"In a healthy pregnancy, the fertilized egg attaches itself to the lining of the uterus. In an ectopic pregnancy, the egg attaches itself somewhere outside the uterus — usually to the inside of a fallopian tube."

It ruptures and always, always dies. Frequently killing the woman because eggs are not supposed to grow inside fallopian tubes. The egg as it grows tears apart the woman's internal organs and kills her.

So, instead of just a dead embryo, we have a dead woman too.

How special these magical mystery blobs of cells must be to offer up the sacrifice of a dead woman each time one of them attaches to the wrong place.

Kind of like when intestinal worms get lose in a human's blood stream and attach to the brain or heart instead of the intestines. As the worm grows it tears apart a human, much like an eptopic pregnancy.

[The Unmitigated Gall]

14. Senator Shithole.

[debm55]

15. What an asshole. It is a very dangerous life or death situation to the mother.

[Bayard]

16. How in the world

Did these ignorant bastards get as far as they have, with never taking a biology class? Or, even sex education? (I guess that would fall in the banned books category, though).

[gratuitous]

17. You don't know what you're talking about, but you're going to write a law

Nitwit. And then Julie Daniels doesn't know why ectopic pregnancy would be included in the exceptions. Double nitwit.

Please do better, Oklahoma.

[James48]

19. Ignorance kills.

Just tell him ectopic pregnancies have a zero survival rate, and also a very high rate of killing the mother, if not removed.

[cksmithy]

20. What!

How can a grown man say something so stupid! They either do not understand basic reproductive biology or they just want women to die to protect their sperm.

[soldierant]

67. If so, they're failing.

If there's an ectopic pregnancy with their sperm, that sperm is already toast. There is no way their sperm can be protected in that situation.

[cksmithy]

92. Of course their sperm can't be

protected but it will die a normal death. sarcasm

[milestogo]

21. Senator: If you get cancer, those cancer cells deserve a chance to live out their lives

even if it kills you.

Get it now?

[area51]

48. This. n/t

[Abolishinist]

62. That. n/t

[SunSeeker]

22. Each sperm is unique too, Warren, yet you throw those out by the millions wadded in Kleenex.

[paleotn]

24. Republicans are never viable either.

And they do kill women.

[tanyev]

26. What about the unique human being whose life is endangered by a non-viable pregnancy?

[mahina]

27. Right? How about when that man was pushing about is it ok to abort a pregnancy when partially born?

As if all us terrible women want our babies to be killed while we give birth. Ignorant that women die.

GRRRR

Vote Vote Vote Vote Vote!

[Corgigal]

28. Nothing unique about this human being,

because it’s just a clump of cells implanted at the wrong place. No human there.

Men need to stop talking about womens bodies, They just understand their pleasure, and not much more.

[malaise]

29. Holy Effin Shit

He didn’t study biology in high school - how fogging stupid is this man?

[3catwoman3]

32. "A child living out part of his or her life..."

No, you idiot, that would be ALL of its short, doomed life.

[Evolve Dammit]

33. Full blown Christo-Fascist insanity at this point. The Orange Chosen One will soon be ushered in.

[Solly Mack]

34. Wow. So much stupid and disregard.

[2 Meow Momma]

35. Fuck that guy

[sakabatou]

36. Translation:

Kids who get pregnant should be forced to carry out a pregnancy, even if it'll kill them.

[purr-rat beauty]

39. How...

...does a fucking shit on stick get to this place of legislation?

[Mariana]

89. He won the 2020 election in his district with 75% of the vote.

That's how.

[Pepsidog]

40. All these idiots should have been BJs.

[raging moderate]

41. I read that over half of all fertilized eggs are flushed out naturally.

So why does he think those that will kill the mother are so special?

[jaxexpat]

42. It's perfectly reasonable that Republicans would empathise with an ectopic.....

version of birth. They would consider it a right of passage for a fetus to pull.itself up by its bootstraps and fight its way down the mean street of an inhospitable birth canal to emerge a victor. They see themselves as the ectopicity of rugged individualists. Life may have been challenging but not a thing that Yankee ingenuity and blind ambition couldn't overcome. All they had to do was reject the weak and woke mother parent's fail and flee unAmericanism. The beast mark of one who's trying to take the easy way out and abort the defenseless (yet homicidal) zygote. Heck, I'm getting a bit misty eyed just imagining the dedication to fantasy and drama that molded these politicians into the unapologetic ninnies they are right down to their thin little hearts.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

46. That is so on point that it's scary.

[Pepsidog]

53. It is on point unless it involves them or a loved one then they scream like babies.

[Warpy]

44. Please people, put this colossal dumbass out of office and back into a fucking church pew

where he can be a meddling ignoramus with far less chance of hurting innocent people meaning girls and women.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

45. Can this medieval ignoramus be publicly ridiculed enough to force him back under his rock?

[struggle4progress]

47. "Paid for by the Committee to Replace OB/GYNs with Ranchers and Helicopter Pilots"

[SheltieLover]

49. Kicking for visibility

[mn9driver]

51. Holy bible beating fucknuttery

These assholes are walking around loose.

[ShazzieB]

61. Not JUST walking around loose.

These pea-brained pinheads are empowered to make laws dictating what woman can and can't fo WITH THEIR OWN BODIES!!!!

[H2O Man]

54. Recommended.

I think we must start prosecuting republicans for their wet dreams.

[burrowowl]

68. Indeed!

[SergeStorms]

55. Republicans lie.

They can't control their ignorant constituents with the truth, so they lie to them about practically everything.

Having access to facts is being "woke", and we all know how much republicans hate anyone being "woke". Lies are all they have.

[zipplewrath]

56. The Antiabortion movement has always been based poorly

We have a trouble deciding when life ENDS, much left begins. Any scientific knowledge of conception would never really assign "humanity" much less "life" to the first few months of pregnancy. The brain isn't anywhere there until well into pregnancy. There is no "heart beat" for months. And quite honestly, the organization of the brain really doesn't even start until AFTER birth. There is no self awareness during pregnancy.

I'm not sure exactly how the "pro life" movement got started, but it is poorly based in any logical sense and the reality is that they have had to move further and further right (towards conception) to merely justify their position because prior to birth requires justifications that don't exist.

[niyad]

57. FUCK EVERY SINGLE WOMAN-HATING, THEOCRATIC, CHRISTOFASCIST

GESTATIONAL SLAVER.

[dlk]

58. Who knew there were so many ignorant men with no clue about women's biology?

Unbelievable!

[DFW]

85. I knew. I know. I'm married to a woman. She told me all about it.

That might be why she stayed with me all these years, even though I'm a nerd and nothing to look at.
All the pretty boys she knew apparently spent all their time worrying about themselves, it seems. Their loss.

[dlk]

88. Good for you!

Your wife is a lucky woman.

[DFW]

91. No, I am lucky man

She is just nearsighted

[ecstatic]

60. It's NOT a f*cking child, psycho!

uggh. Why do we have to put up with this bullshit?

[stage left]

63. The stupid burns.

This arrogant ignoramus has a Facebook page and I posted the Op's video to his page and wrote this message.

Here is you speaking on an ectopic pregnancy where a woman's egg implants outside of the uterus, usually in one of the fallopian tubes. You speak from a place of abject ignorance, ignorance so great that it should lead to ejection from the chambers of any legislative body in the entire world. An ectopic pregnancy is not a child and will not survive. If it is not removed, it will kill the woman. That's why there is an exception to your abortion bill for an ectopic pregnancy. I urge you to look up this condition and repair your ignorance because your ignorance, sir, is jaw dropping.

[IzzaNuDay]

86. Thank you for pointing out his stupidity.

If I said what was really on my mind, I would be in Facebook jail for life!

[BadgerMom]

64. Roevember.

[Blue Owl]

65. We don't care if you're too stupid to get it, Warren

But keep your stupidity to yourself, FFS…

[littlemissmartypants]

66. I made something for you...❤️

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217330489

[Nevilledog]

77. Nice work!

[samnsara]

69. my maggat sis had an etoptic preg terminted 20 years ago..wonder what shes thinking..?

[NowISeetheLight]

71. OK This Idiot in 2021....

Proposed a bill abolishing abortion that had an EXCEPTION to prosecuting doctors or mothers if the “baby” dies due to a tubal or ectopic pregnancies. As long as triage was performed? WTH? Why would they need an exception then? It’s Gods Will right? So he has just shown he is a hypocrite then, right?


https://oksenate.gov/press-releases/sen-warren-hamilton-files-equal-protection-and-equal-justice-act


“ January 27, 2021 | 12:04pm
Sen. Warren Hamilton files Equal Protection and Equal Justice Act
State Sen. Warren Hamilton, R-McCurtain, has filed the Equal Protection and Equal Justice Act, which would abolish abortion in the state.

Senate Bill 495 would ensure equal justice and equal protection of the laws to all unborn children from the moment of fertilization; establish that a living human unborn child, from the moment of fertilization, is entitled to the same rights, powers and privileges as any other person; and rescind all licenses to kill unborn children by repealing discriminatory provisions and making all alleged offenders equally subject to the law.

The bill would also recognize that the United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land and refuse to assent to legal fiction that the Constitution prohibits the state from exercising its reserved police powers to outlaw homicide and provide equal protection to all persons, and void all federal statutes, regulations, treaties, orders and court rulings that would deprive an unborn child of the right to life, or prohibit the equal protection of such right.

“We the People must immediately end abortion, which is our American holocaust,” Hamilton said. “It’s time that we stand up for our preborn children and ensure that every life, regardless of their stage of development, is protected by our laws.”

The measure would also amend the wrongful death statute to remove certain instances under which a wrongful death action in relation to abortion may be brought, applying the law to all abortions.

“In rare circumstances, conditions in a pregnancy arise which threaten the life of the mother – tubal and ectopic pregnancies are the most often mentioned,” Hamilton said. “It should be noted that under SB 495, neither the doctor nor the mother will be held liable for the death of the child, provided that every effort is made to save both lives in these triage situations. The bill is about life – all life – child and mother.”

SB 495 would also instruct the Attorney General to monitor the state’s enforcement of the abolition of abortion and direct state agencies to enforce the law regardless of any contrary or conflicting federal statute, regulation, treaty, executive order or court ruling.

“Every child is a gift from God, no matter their conception story,” Hamilton said. “We do not need the permission of the Supreme Court to stop murdering our children. We can and should start right here in Oklahoma by establishing equal protection and equal justice for all human beings beginning at conception. Abortion is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, and we shouldn’t kill babies because their location is inconvenient. I encourage all Oklahomans to contact your state Senator and Representative in support of this measure.”

This bill is supported by Southern Baptists for the Abolition of Abortion; Freewill Baptists Abolitionist Society; Free the States; Oklahomans United for Life; The Ekklesia of Oklahoma; City Elders; Fairview Baptist Church in Edmond; Reclaiming America for Christ; OCPAC; Western Oklahoma Christians for Liberty; Congressional District 3 Republican Party Chairman Daniel Navejas; and Logan County Republican Chairman Kyle Brown.

If passed, the bill would become effective immediately.”

[stopdiggin]

73. A unique version of human life

Somewhat obscene, but ...

(and a near perfect illustration of the theocratic mindset)

[VWolf]

74. No. Fuck no. VOTE OUT THESE MF'ERS n/t

[Timeflyer]

75. Agree with all DUers who are gobsmacked by the ignorance---

sanctimonious a-hole can't be bothered to research 'ectopic pregnancy' to understand what it does to female body--or knows and really doesn't care.

[Chalco]

76. I feel like putting the GOP in a tube

so they can suffocate and destroy the GOP.

Ugh.

I almost died in from an ectopic pregnancy and would have missed the next 40 years of my life including my marriage, my daughter, etc.

Ugh.

[BlueIdaho]

78. A mass of tissue does not a child make.

We need to demand scientific critical thinking from politicians - not hocus pocus invisible sky magician crap.

[OldBaldy1701E]

79. So, my beloved grandmother had this gesture.

She would do it when she saw or read something that was stupid as well as obviously done for effect. She would pinch her finger and thumb on the top of the bridge of her nose (like a child would do if something stinks), fan the rest of the fingers over the opposing eye, and tilt the head back with a loud sigh (the further you tilt, the more idiotic the thing you are doing this about). It was and is a family tradition to do this whenever confronted with both idiocy as well as flagrance. Suffice to say, I now have whiplash from watching that speech.

[Tommymac]

82. Someone needs to implant an ectopic fetus in his vas deferens.

In plain language, inside his ball sack.

I hate these ignorant christofascists. I mean I REALLY TRULY HATE them.

[Sogo]

83. Well, fucktard....

The woman could just claim self-defense from being killed by that "human being."

[calimary]

84. Women as hatcheries. That's all we are, to this jerk.

Well I WON’T be minimized that way!!!!!!!!!!!

[Martin68]

87. That's got to be one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.

Not to mention the immorality of suggesting such a concept in the context of the mother carrying such tragic mistake of nature.

[Mariana]

90. This man went to West Point.