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Biden tweet: Republicans want to cut Social Security. Who the hell do they think they are? (Original Post) FelineOverlord Nov 2022 OP
Nice to see Joe PO'd bout this! I wudve used a different word than "hell"... InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Disaffected Nov 2022 #2
Question: Disaffected Nov 2022 #3
SS is entirely self funded mike_c Nov 2022 #5
OK thanks,, but how then Disaffected Nov 2022 #8
If you're an American citizen, DeeDeeNY Nov 2022 #6
Also if you have "employees" using someone else's SSN to get by I-9, haele Nov 2022 #9
even if you are not an American citizen drray23 Nov 2022 #10
Of course they want to cut it. grumpyduck Nov 2022 #4
Where is the ad where... lame54 Nov 2022 #7
All of this should appear in every living room. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2022 #11

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,125 posts)
1. Nice to see Joe PO'd bout this! I wudve used a different word than "hell"...
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:00 PM
Nov 2022

but he is the Prez, so I get the decorum and all that.

Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #1)

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
5. SS is entirely self funded
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:34 PM
Nov 2022

The money comes from worker and employer contributions and by law is kept separate from the general fund, meaning that SS does not contribute to the budget deficit or any other government debt. The SS Trust invests "excess" funds (in excess of current outlays) in special issue treasury bonds, which earn interest, as do all treasury bonds. Those bonds are repaid at maturity. The US has never defaulted on its treasury obligations. Social security is a retirement savings account for worker's dollars.

Disaffected

(4,574 posts)
8. OK thanks,, but how then
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:50 PM
Nov 2022

could it be legally "defunded"?? Or are the Repubs just blowing BS about it?

Also, what would happen if the fund were not able to meet its payout obligations (I'm assuming here the payouts are based on actuarial data sort of like life insurance). If that were to happen in future, would the govt be obligated to top it up?

DeeDeeNY

(3,356 posts)
6. If you're an American citizen,
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:41 PM
Nov 2022

It gets deducted from your paycheck if you’re an American citizen and added to the Social Security Fund.

haele

(12,692 posts)
9. Also if you have "employees" using someone else's SSN to get by I-9,
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:53 PM
Nov 2022

Which happens a lot in immigrant heavy businesses like agriculture and food production, small manufacturing and some types of personal or home care services.
Probably half of the undocumented (non-visa) work force who are not asylum seekers are using a stolen or spoofed SSN.
On edit -and their employees will pay.part of their wages into Social Security along with income tax, etc.

Haele

drray23

(7,638 posts)
10. even if you are not an American citizen
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 07:18 PM
Nov 2022

green card holders and people on work visas also pay for social security. The only difference is that they can't collect later on unless they become naturalized US citizens.

grumpyduck

(6,284 posts)
4. Of course they want to cut it.
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:25 PM
Nov 2022

A lot of them are multimillionaires and the rest aren't hurting. They don't need it, and Congress takes care of their medical and pensions. What they want is a rich-vs-poor scenario, kinda like in medieval times.

Fucking bastards.

lame54

(35,345 posts)
7. Where is the ad where...
Tue Nov 1, 2022, 06:45 PM
Nov 2022

Grandma is moving in with her kids
Then they show the whole block where grandmas are moving into all thier kids houses

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