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chowder66

(9,087 posts)
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:34 PM Oct 2022

Correct me if I am wrong but there was no presser about the Ukraine letter

released by Jayapal's office. If I am wrong please let me know and I will delete my posts.

I have seen a presser photo running along with the articles about this so I dug into it because I can't find anything about an actual press conference that went with the letter release.

Here is the Getty Images Description of the photo the media is using or at least one of them.

Progressive Caucus Addresses Media Ahead Of Inflation Reduction Act Vote

WASHINGTON, DC - AUGUST 12: Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-WA) and fellow members of the House Progressive Caucus hold a news conference ahead of the vote on the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 outside the U.S. Capitol on August 12, 2022 in Washington, DC. Despite not achieving everything the House liberals wanted, the $737 billion act will focus on slowing climate change, lower health care costs, and creating clean energy jobs by enacting a 15% corporate minimum tax, and a 1% fee on stock buybacks, and enhancing IRS enforcement. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)

The photo I have seen is from the last image on this page at gettyimages.com;

https://www.gettyimages.com/search/2/image?events=775856967

Here's the video of the original presser.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?522323-1/house-progressive-caucus-inflation-reduction-act

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Correct me if I am wrong but there was no presser about the Ukraine letter (Original Post) chowder66 Oct 2022 OP
For the record, I agree it was a boneheaded move by the staffer or whoever but chowder66 Oct 2022 #1
The media made it appear there was a presser IMHO spanone Oct 2022 #2
Yep. They sure did but I didn't see anything about a presser on the news chowder66 Oct 2022 #3
There wasn't one. spanone Oct 2022 #4
How then did the media find out about it? iemanja Oct 2022 #14
It was released on the official .gov website. chowder66 Oct 2022 #21
As a PRESS RELEASE from the House Progressive caucus iemanja Oct 2022 #22
Excuse me? chowder66 Oct 2022 #24
A press release is NOT a presser with people at a podium standing outside the Capitol. chowder66 Oct 2022 #25
Why does it matter? iemanja Oct 2022 #26
Because it is a fact. A fact that a presser didn't happen. chowder66 Oct 2022 #27
I fell for it, hook, line and sinker Brother Buzz Oct 2022 #5
I believe it was intended to do that. spanone Oct 2022 #6
You and me, both Brother Buzz Oct 2022 #7
Yes seeing Raskin there was a big disappointment. Irish_Dem Oct 2022 #8
same here..but hes from ny and jayapal is from seattle so it made sense samnsara Oct 2022 #10
If you believe that iemanja Oct 2022 #15
There may not have been sarisataka Oct 2022 #9
Yes. That is my point. I can't find anything about it and think the media just used chowder66 Oct 2022 #11
A press release from the House Progressive caucus isn't a presser? iemanja Oct 2022 #16
I was taking the meaning of presser sarisataka Oct 2022 #19
Whether there was a press conference seems completely irrelevant to me iemanja Oct 2022 #20
Yes, the method it was announced sarisataka Oct 2022 #23
Thanks for this info AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2022 #12
You're welcome. chowder66 Oct 2022 #18
The letter looks every bit of what it is. A "presser" is irrelevant. Hortensis Oct 2022 #13
I think it is relevant for those that thought there was one. chowder66 Oct 2022 #17

chowder66

(9,087 posts)
1. For the record, I agree it was a boneheaded move by the staffer or whoever but
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:39 PM
Oct 2022

I think it's important to not create a presser where there wasn't one.

chowder66

(9,087 posts)
3. Yep. They sure did but I didn't see anything about a presser on the news
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:47 PM
Oct 2022

which kept bugging me yesterday and this morning so I dug into it. Still can't find anything on it and it isn't mentioned when it comes to anything about the letter being released.

iemanja

(53,093 posts)
22. As a PRESS RELEASE from the House Progressive caucus
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 05:02 PM
Oct 2022

And you want to blame the whole thing on the media. That is a weak excuse for what was clearly a mistake by at least Jayapal.

chowder66

(9,087 posts)
24. Excuse me?
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 05:11 PM
Oct 2022

I'm not blaming the whole thing on the media nor making any excuses. I am correcting the record for those who thought there was a press conference on this. THAT IS ALL and yes, I feel the media did a disservice by attaching an old press conference picture to the story as though Jayapal and Raskin were out there stumping on it.

As for the release of the July letter I think it's horrible and the timing is very suspicious.

Next time you take issue with me trying to provide a fact, please ask me a question instead of jumping to conclusions about where I stand on something that I didn't say or imply.

iemanja

(53,093 posts)
26. Why does it matter?
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 05:17 PM
Oct 2022

I don't see how that is relevant to what happened. You say some people thought their was a press conference. So? Does that change the fact there was a very ill-timed and unfortunate press release?

Jayapal blaming it on a staffer reflects very badly on her, especially since she is reported to keep very right control of press releases. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/an-ex-hill-staffer-who-worked-closely-with-a-top-progressive-democrat-says-there-s-no-chance-she-didn-t-vet-the-controversial-ukraine-letter-she-keeps-a-tight-grip-on-media-relations/ar-AA13mUGS

BTW, I was mistaken to attribute your post to blaming the whole thing on the media, but there are some who have responded to your posts in that vein.

chowder66

(9,087 posts)
27. Because it is a fact. A fact that a presser didn't happen.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 05:21 PM
Oct 2022

If you look at earlier threads about it you will see people talking about a presser. Some have also acknowledged they thought there was one but there wasn't.

I too wondered about it which I mentioned and found that there wasn't one. I shared it.


I already answered you about the timing. You didn't read it I guess.

Brother Buzz

(36,478 posts)
5. I fell for it, hook, line and sinker
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:51 PM
Oct 2022

Some staffer is in some serious trouble trouble, but the media will simply print a retraction on page eight, right below the obituaries - No harm, no foul.

spanone

(135,900 posts)
6. I believe it was intended to do that.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 02:56 PM
Oct 2022

I was pissed seeing Jamie Raskin standing there.

Fucking media

Irish_Dem

(47,518 posts)
8. Yes seeing Raskin there was a big disappointment.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 03:17 PM
Oct 2022

I cannot slice it in any way that makes him look good.

samnsara

(17,650 posts)
10. same here..but hes from ny and jayapal is from seattle so it made sense
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 03:22 PM
Oct 2022

..the coasts have always been a bit more 'progressive'....

iemanja

(53,093 posts)
15. If you believe that
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 04:54 PM
Oct 2022

I have a bridge to sell you.

Blaming this on the media makes zero sense. They had to find out about it somehow.

chowder66

(9,087 posts)
11. Yes. That is my point. I can't find anything about it and think the media just used
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 03:25 PM
Oct 2022

a picture from a inflation reduction act presser that has nothing to do with Ukraine.

It's disingenuous of the media. That's why I wanted to put it out there because there are more than several people who think there was an actual presser with Raskin and Jayapal when there wasn't.

sarisataka

(18,821 posts)
19. I was taking the meaning of presser
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 04:58 PM
Oct 2022

To be an in person press conference with Rep. Jayapal.

There has been a photo floating around with coverage of the letter. The photo however was taken months ago and is unrelated.

iemanja

(53,093 posts)
20. Whether there was a press conference seems completely irrelevant to me
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 05:00 PM
Oct 2022

The House Progressive Caucus issued a press release, as your own link shows. The OP wants to blame it all on the media, since apparently Democrats are incapable to making mistakes. The excuses show more weakness than admitting it was a mistake.

sarisataka

(18,821 posts)
23. Yes, the method it was announced
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 05:07 PM
Oct 2022

Is not relevant to the release of the letter.

The mistake was the letter, exacerbated by the weak explanation.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. The letter looks every bit of what it is. A "presser" is irrelevant.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 04:51 PM
Oct 2022

Btw, regarding the timing of its release by Jayapal's office, it may be relevant that Speaker Pelosi is in Zagreb today with other representatives of G7, NATO, European and other global partners for the First Parliamentary Summit of the International Crimea Platform.

The summit is expected to conclude with the adoption of a Joint Statement in which participants reaffirm their commitment to the non-recognition of Russia’s illegal and illegitimate territorial claims and recommit to supporting Ukraine to resist Russia’s aggression.

Also hold Russia responsible for war crimes, etc.

chowder66

(9,087 posts)
17. I think it is relevant for those that thought there was one.
Tue Oct 25, 2022, 04:55 PM
Oct 2022

It didn't happen and I wanted to correct the record on that.

And yes, the timing was atrocious and should not have been released.

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