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Nevilledog

(51,295 posts)
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 12:46 PM Oct 2022

Supreme Court Pork Case Could Provide Roadmap for Moral Warfare

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/supreme-court-pork-case-could-provide-roadmap-for-moral-warfare

The Supreme Court will consider how California regulates living conditions for pigs raised for meat in a case with implications for the $26 billion US pork industry as well as state efforts to address everything from abortion to climate change.

At issue in National Pork Producers Council v. Ross to be argued on Tuesday is a 2018 proposition approved by California voters which prohibits the sale of pork in the state if it was produced using inhumane breeding methods.

Proponents of the law say it’s simply meant to set standards for the production of pork products sold within the state, while opponents say it’s a road map for both red and blue states to try to export their moral judgments across state lines.

The case “would trigger harmful interstate trade wars as other states attempt to mimic California’s regulatory strategy,” said Jonathan D. Urick, associate chief counsel for the US Chamber Litigation Center. The group filed an amicus brief in support of the pork producers.

Proposition 12 prohibited the sale of pork in California if pigs are raised in breeding pens that don’t allow sows to turn a full circle. “Hardly any commercially bred sows are housed” in compliance with Prop. 12, the National Pork Producers Council says in its brief.

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Supreme Court Pork Case Could Provide Roadmap for Moral Warfare (Original Post) Nevilledog Oct 2022 OP
We wouldn't want things to improve...I'll be surprised if SCOTUS conservatives pull out their Karadeniz Oct 2022 #1
Don't forget... 2naSalit Oct 2022 #8
Well, we know the current supreme court Bettie Oct 2022 #2
The Biden administration supports the pork producers. former9thward Oct 2022 #9
That's wrong Bettie Oct 2022 #10
Such a sad existence Johnny2X2X Oct 2022 #3
"State's rights!" Eat that conservatives ... KPN Oct 2022 #4
States rights is not exactly the issue. former9thward Oct 2022 #5
Ah ... good correction. I'm on Ready, KPN Oct 2022 #6
I wish they'd ban veal Bayard Oct 2022 #7
So the National Pork Producers Council are making an argument for inhumane treatment flvegan Oct 2022 #11

Karadeniz

(22,607 posts)
1. We wouldn't want things to improve...I'll be surprised if SCOTUS conservatives pull out their
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 01:09 PM
Oct 2022

Christian ethics for this one. Jesus said God loves the merest sparrow. That compels a Christian to likewise demand ethical treatment of animals.

2naSalit

(86,951 posts)
8. Don't forget...
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 03:29 PM
Oct 2022

That particular species is special in a lot of religions whether they are seen as evil or a necessity. I wonder how this will impact things.

Bettie

(16,151 posts)
2. Well, we know the current supreme court
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 01:13 PM
Oct 2022

will rule in the cruelest way possible, because there are six monsters on it.

Bettie

(16,151 posts)
10. That's wrong
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 07:41 PM
Oct 2022

but, isn't Vilsack the current guy for that sort of thing? He's very pro-factory farm. Ugh.

Johnny2X2X

(19,285 posts)
3. Such a sad existence
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 01:18 PM
Oct 2022

Pigs are incredibly intelligent animals with unique personalities. They know nothing but pain, fear, and misery from the moment of their births to the instant they are slaughtered. In a metal pen you can't even turn around in? People go to jail for treating their dogs this way. Pigs are just as deserving of humane treatment as dogs are.

former9thward

(32,161 posts)
5. States rights is not exactly the issue.
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 01:34 PM
Oct 2022

The main issue which brought this case to the SC (which the OP does not mention in the summary) is that CA wants its inspectors to be able to go to any other state and make inspections in that state. That would encroach on the rights of other states by CA.

CA can ban pork in CA if that is what they want to do.

Bayard

(22,237 posts)
7. I wish they'd ban veal
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 03:00 PM
Oct 2022

It always broke my heart to drive past farms in Calif and see the calves in itty bitty cages so they couldn't move whatsoever. Right out front in some places.

Its what makes the meat, "tender."


At least they finally banned foie gras in CA, although they can still buy it from out of state.

flvegan

(64,426 posts)
11. So the National Pork Producers Council are making an argument for inhumane treatment
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 11:43 PM
Oct 2022

of animals? Some DUers will get behind this because...things.

Yeah, yeah, I get it. It's about pork outside the state too, but isn't the basis still the inhumane treatment of animals?

Please, come meat "coal roll" this post, bacon lovers!! Yeah, DU freedumbs!!

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