Just watched the Ryan / Vance Ohio debate . . . . .

[Stinky The Clown]

. . . . . and we formed solid opinions on what we saw. Before sharing them, we're wondering how this mightbhave been heard by Ohioans.

[Doremus]

1. Ryan is a rock steady supporter of Ohio's middle class.

He's one of us, committed to his cause and a little rough around the edges. He said some things that will probably anger some Dems (comments about Biden and other party leaders, etc.), but the people of Ohio he's reaching out to aren't the people who care whether Biden and Pelosi stay in power.

He's appealing to disaffected repukes and indies because it's the only way he's going to win. As a deep-blue progressive, I give him a pass. Afaic, he can say anything he wants. I only hope to God he wins.

Edited - As far as Vance, he's slicker than I thought. He made a couple of Freudian slips that were pretty revealing.

[OAITW r.2.0]

3. He doesn't run from the Democratic agenda, either.

He frames it differently that Biden does.....because Joe is talking National vision, Ryan is talking State redults. He is focused on the 21st century tech jobs that he's bringing to Ohio....that's what Ohio needs - not BS politics that is designed to regress our future.

[OAITW r.2.0]

2. I've watched some condensed segments and, wow.

Ryan's coherent responses decimated Vance,,,,,without theatrical lying. Just told the blunt fucking truth. Vance was incapable of formulating a response.

This is how Democrats should engage the Republican Party....everyone running for office should watch this and learn. Tim's media campaign only needs to make a dozen 30 second ads using his debate remarks.

[Midnight Writer]

6. Blunt was exactly what came to my mind. Blunt and simple.

[montanacowboy]

4. Every Dem should take a page

from his playbook. This is the way Dems were when I was growing up in Ohio. My Dad was a strong Union man and all his friends were. Ohio then was solidly Democratic and then what the hell happened. Jobs went away that's what. I think he is an amazing spokesman for our cause and he kicked the living shit out of that slimy Vance for all the world to see. Someday Ryan could be Presidential material.

[OAITW r.2.0]

5. I agree with this.

"Someday Ryan could be Presidential material."

If he becomes the next US Senator from Ohio, he's going to be a player, hopefully, in 2028.

[BeyondGeography]

7. Would that our party would send him a few bucks

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2022-election/national-democrats-ignore-ohio-senate-race-leaving-tim-ryan-lonesome-rcna51435

[Celerity]

10. I have not been impressed with Harrison for ages, plus people piss away tens of millions to

no-chance-to-win-at-all-but-I-hate-the-opponent races like Empty G, Rand Paul, Gaetz, etc, (same as we did on 2020 with McTurtle, Lindsey Graham (Harrison himself), Cornyn, etc), whilst actually viable chances to win go underfunded.

[GoodRaisin]

8. Wow. Ryan took Vance to task.

That’s how to talk to a Republican.

[JoanofArgh]

9. I think Tim Ryan is awesome. He's very, very good at messaging and should be getting more support

from national Democrats.

Link to tweet

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[Stinky The Clown]

11. That's a GREAT commercial!

[Stinky The Clown]

12. We saw Ryan as a straight ahead guy, We saw Vance as smarmy and oily