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FBI misled judge who signed warrant for Beverly Hills seizure of $86 million in cash
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-09-23/fbi-beverly-hills-safe-deposit-box-raid-forfeiture-judge
FBI misled judge who signed warrant for Beverly Hills seizure of $86 million in cash
The privacy invasion was vast when FBI agents drilled and pried their way into 1,400 safe-deposit boxes at the U.S. Private Vaults store in Beverly Hills.
They rummaged through personal belongings of a jazz saxophone player, an interior designer, a retired doctor, a flooring contractor, two Century City lawyers and hundreds of others.
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Eighteen months later, newly unsealed court documents show that the FBI and U.S. attorneys office in Los Angeles got their warrant for that raid by misleading the judge who approved it.
They omitted from their warrant request a central part of the FBIs plan: Permanent confiscation of everything inside every box containing at least $5,000 in cash or goods, a senior FBI agent recently testified.
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Box holders would liken the raid to police barging into a buildings 700 apartments and taking every tenants possessions when they have evidence of wrongdoing by nobody but the landlord.
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In some of those cases, prosecutors cited no evidence that the money was tied to any specific crime, alleging simply that a dog smelled drug residue on the cash, or that it was bagged or wrapped in a way that aroused suspicion of drug trafficking.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Sorry I will take off my aluminum beanie now...
Irish_Dem
(48,643 posts)Demovictory9
(32,521 posts)Schmice3
(294 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)that's been politics in the USA for 30 years. when are democrats going to wake up.
we even let 87+ universities support 260+ of those radio stations without complaint.
that is dumb. and i think - city dumb.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)FBI says fortune seized in Beverly Hills raid was criminals loot. Owners say: Wheres the proof?
The FBIs attempt to confiscate tens of millions of dollars from Beverly Hills safe deposit boxes draws resistance and charges of government misconduct.
Sept. 19, 2021
FBI wants to keep fortune in cash, gold, jewels from Beverly Hills raid. Is it abuse of power?
Customers of U.S. Private Vaults are suing the FBI over its attempt to confiscate gold and silver, jewelry and $86 million in cash from safe deposit boxes.
June 9, 2021
Bayard
(22,288 posts)To promote his FBI fairy tale about Mar-A-Largo.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,260 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)the first place
if rw radio was digitized, as would be easy with AI, dems would know this was bullshit and could prove it
underpants
(183,149 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,523 posts)DURHAM D
(32,620 posts)TheProle
(2,223 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,553 posts)NQAS
(10,749 posts)But keep in mind this was the fbi under trump and a corrupt administration.
somaticexperiencing
(317 posts)TigressDem
(5,125 posts)SNIP
FBI agent Lynne Zellhart, a former Sacramento attorney, first heard about it from a Los Angeles County sheriffs deputy. Customers, who could rent boxes without identifying themselves, entered the stores vault with a biometric eye scan, the deputy told her.
The Sheriffs Department suspected a customer was a criminal but was having all kinds of problems getting into the box that they had a warrant for because of the nature of the business, Zellhart testified in the class-action suit.
By 2019, federal and local law enforcement had managed to search more than a dozen boxes and seized about $5 million from five drug dealers, a bookie and a debit card thief.
The FBI opened an investigation of the business itself. Zellhart, who specializes in money laundering, said she thought it should be shut down. She joined forces with counterparts at the Drug Enforcement Administration and Postal Inspection Service.
Through surveillance, informants and undercover work, they surmised that U.S. Private Vaults and a precious-metals store next door were helping drug dealers launder cash by converting it into gold and silver they stashed in their boxes.
WAS EVERYONE USING IT DOING IT FOR NEFARIOUS PURPOSES?
HARD TO SAY.
Cheezoholic
(2,058 posts)We will use them when they're on our side but they're still super cops. I've found it fascinating
that the left have suddenly become Fed luggers when it benefits them lol.
Raine
(30,564 posts)I've never liked the FBI or trusted them and I never will no matter whose side they take.
DFW
(54,583 posts)There is (or was until recently) a corrupt section of the Belgian financial police that was doing this kind of thing systematically. They would go from diamond dealer to diamond dealer snd then gold dealer to gold dealer and accuse them of money laundering. They would then confiscate everything of value, make up a few dozen fictitious pieces of evidence to keep the case open, but cold. After five to ten years, they would says, oops, our bad, and then return part or none of what they had seized.
One famous case was when they confiscated 10 million from a diamond dealer, used the time to exchange the gem quality diamonds for industrial diamonds, worth a tiny fraction. The dirty cops said they had returned the same number of carats originally seized, so shut up. I had lunch with the majority leader of the Belgian Senate about ten years ago, and she knew all about it. She said that Belgiums divided government was just too weak to do anything about the problem.
There was another case where this dirty brigade did the same to a small gold dealer, whose total net worth was tied up in 15 kilo bars of gold, all of which were confiscated. After five or so years, he was told, oops ok youre innocent after all, here are your 12 kilos back. He reminded them they were to return 15 kilos. They said shut up if you dont want it to happen again. The only reason it came to light is that the girlfriend of one of the dirty cops broke up with him, and told some other cops where in their apartment the stolen 3 kilo bars could be found.
This brigade still exists, although I dont know if its under the same management. One of the brigade recently retired and had the gall to revisit one of his former victims, who also dealt in foreign exchange, to say he might show up if he needed currency of some popular resort locations. I guess if youre going go bribe some building inspectors on Bali, you will need some Indonesian rupees.
There was a similar group of French customs agents around the same time, but the French have a more powerful central government. They are still bureaucrats who take care of their own, but they no longer terrorize small merchants near the stock exchange. Their head guy was transferred to Charles de Gaulle airport, where he now inspects cheese coming in from Switzerland, or some similar job where he cant steal from his victims, just levy small fines for labeling violations, real or imagined.
EnterwebsJohn
(87 posts)pecosbob
(7,555 posts)Illegal seizures have become common practice for LEOs nationwide.
ck4829
(35,100 posts)Last edited Mon Oct 3, 2022, 09:27 AM - Edit history (1)
Christian NationChainfire
(17,757 posts)At least if a crook gets it from there, the justice system will recognize him as a thief.
Dogs detected dope on the money? Who will cross examine the dogs in court? Most any circulated 100 dollar bill could have traces of dope on it. I keep some 100 dollar bills in my safe, any of them could have traces of dope and it was certainly not placed there by me. It seems as if it is a clear policy of guilty until proven innocent.
Wrapped in a way that aroused suspicion? Well, hell, that is prima facie evidence of guilt. Wrapped how, in paper sleeves like banks use? Placed in a baggie? How should I "wrap" my money to be safe from that kind of suspicion?
With a situation like that, you have to wonder how much of the confiscated cash made it back to headquarters? Who is to say there was five or ten thousand dollars in the box?
Brainfodder
(6,424 posts)So don't bring full thinking caps out?
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,553 posts)Demsrule86
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