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yellowcanine

(35,704 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:53 AM Sep 2022

After 11th Circuit smackdown, Judge Cannon retreats.

https://www.rawstory.com/aileen-cannon-2658324050/

Sorry Your Honor. The only honorable thing to do is to resign.

In a new filing flagged by Politico's Kyle Cheney, Cannon amended her previous order to state that the seized material subject to a special master review no longer includes the "approximately one-hundred documents bearing classification markings."

The 11th Circuit, a three-judge panel that consists of two Trump appointees, criticized arguments made by the former president's lawyers, who wanted the DOJ to be forced to stop its probe into Trump's decision to allegedly keep top secret government documents stashed at his Mar-a-Lago resort.

In their ruling, the judges noted that Trump "has not even attempted to show that he has a need to know the information contained in the classified documents. Nor has he established that the current administration has waived that requirement for these documents."
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After 11th Circuit smackdown, Judge Cannon retreats. (Original Post) yellowcanine Sep 2022 OP
like she had a choice? n/t getagrip_already Sep 2022 #1
Here, judge. Take this And pass it on to TFG while you're at it japple Sep 2022 #17
She can still Fire Judge Dearie. Tommymac Sep 2022 #50
the doj has appealed anyway..... getagrip_already Sep 2022 #51
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Sep 2022 #2
She needs to be removed / charged with obstruction. SheltieLover Sep 2022 #3
☝️100% Beachnutt Sep 2022 #4
Easier said than done, no doubt. SheltieLover Sep 2022 #5
THIS!!! calimary Sep 2022 #10
Tfg's & their collective behavior proves this to be true SheltieLover Sep 2022 #11
Can we Traildogbob Sep 2022 #12
Absolutely! SheltieLover Sep 2022 #13
I'd like for him to receive a ball gag order. n/t Harker Sep 2022 #15
Yes Traildogbob Sep 2022 #20
I have thought exactly the same thing. He doesn't brag about not taking his pension, does he Walleye Sep 2022 #18
Nope he doesn't. SheltieLover Sep 2022 #21
I'm laughing thinking it might be the only money he'll get after this lawsuit Walleye Sep 2022 #23
Lol SheltieLover Sep 2022 #24
I agree rockfordfile Sep 2022 #44
The question now is whether DOJ will appeal the Special Master order itself VMA131Marine Sep 2022 #6
I'm pretty sure they have already done that. Lasher Sep 2022 #9
Not yet FBaggins Sep 2022 #31
I am concerned about the precedent. Lasher Sep 2022 #40
What else has this cultist done to help the cult? dalton99a Sep 2022 #7
They don't care. They believe their Hair Furor is the 2nd coming of Jeezuss to bring 'em Armageddon! Justice matters. Sep 2022 #25
Slime weasel! Tadpole Raisin Sep 2022 #8
Seppuku would be nice, but that requires something which she does not possess. niyad Sep 2022 #14
? obamanut2012 Sep 2022 #43
Ritual suicide to restore one's honour. niyad Sep 2022 #46
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I bet she needs a lawyer now Heather MC Sep 2022 #16
Hey! As a Bona Fide ....... BigOleDummy Sep 2022 #41
For the most part the judiciary has held the line. Cannon is not worthy of a lifetime appointment to Pepsidog Sep 2022 #19
Could they not request change of venue? SheltieLover Sep 2022 #22
No. Change of venue has to be requested at the outset of a case or its waived. onenote Sep 2022 #36
K&R for, shame/humiliation! UTUSN Sep 2022 #26
But DT, the Uber Idiot, told fux that Cha Sep 2022 #27
Quick Questions Jay25 Sep 2022 #28
They will get copies of the non-classified docs on Monday per Judge Dearie's order. onenote Sep 2022 #39
Thank you. Jay25 Sep 2022 #47
No, the classified items have not been viewed by anyone except the DOJ. Moosepoop Sep 2022 #42
Yes, that is who I was referring too. Thank you. Jay25 Sep 2022 #48
A real judge wouldn't show up on a national stage wearing a clown costume and kissing ass. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #29
No it won't johnnyfins Sep 2022 #34
She has only had 1 sample of a smack-down by an appeals court. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #35
Or resigns. At some point, the public humiliation will likely get to her and she will take a job KPN Sep 2022 #45
That would be wonderful! Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #49
Overstepped, did she? LOL! Martin68 Sep 2022 #30
She needs to be charged with obstructing justice! Emile Sep 2022 #32
Judges don't get charged with obstruction for issuing an order that is reversed. onenote Sep 2022 #37
Show Judge Cannon some mercy, those human suits are hot and itchy PurgedVoter Sep 2022 #33
100! Evidence! Thank you! Brainfodder Sep 2022 #38
Cannon backfires lame54 Sep 2022 #52

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
50. She can still Fire Judge Dearie.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 02:37 PM
Sep 2022

It's in her original order - she can choose to ignoire or fire him at any time for any reason.

Let's see if she does - that will guarantee she gets impeached.

Unqualified Qanon TFG mo-ran.

getagrip_already

(14,950 posts)
51. the doj has appealed anyway.....
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 03:10 PM
Sep 2022

The 11th circuit will likely look at firing deerie very crossly. She is standing on top of a funeral pyre and would be throwing lit matches.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
3. She needs to be removed / charged with obstruction.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:57 AM
Sep 2022

Some consequence for endangering our national security is in order!

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
5. Easier said than done, no doubt.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:07 PM
Sep 2022

But, just like tfg & coconspirators, not prosecuting & severely punishing only serves to embolden.

calimary

(81,585 posts)
10. THIS!!!
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:22 PM
Sep 2022

If we do nothing, all that shows the bad guys (and wannabe bad guys) a big bright green light.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
11. Tfg's & their collective behavior proves this to be true
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:27 PM
Sep 2022

Terrorizing school boards, threatening election workers & elected officials, & attempting to steal the Presidency are overt examples.

Why are these people not being locked up & handed max penalties allowable under the law?

Traildogbob

(8,884 posts)
12. Can we
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:27 PM
Sep 2022

At minimum end his life long paycheck and health care benefits package? Besides he never took a paycheck while in office, he donated every one of the checks to starving children with cancer, right?????? Why the hell should we give him and the former first Ho another dime of tax money? He says he has tons of cash on “Handity” last night.
If we screw our employer we would have any pension severed ASAP.

Traildogbob

(8,884 posts)
20. Yes
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 01:06 PM
Sep 2022

Fine any media that puts out a word from his anus lips. A fair trade for no prison. Let his donors keep him afloat. They ARE that Stupid. Orange Jesus should live on the Budget of the original brown Jesus. Give him a fish and a bottle of Mad Dog or Red River Rose. He could share with the MAGA’s at KKKlan rallies.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
21. Nope he doesn't.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 01:11 PM
Sep 2022

And he should not get healthcare! Karma for stripping his young, disabled nephew of insurance, not to mention efforts to end ACA!

VMA131Marine

(4,159 posts)
6. The question now is whether DOJ will appeal the Special Master order itself
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:10 PM
Sep 2022

The 11th Circuit granted a stay pending appeal but DOJ has not yet filed the full appeal. I would guess they are trying to determine if letting what’s left of Judge Cannon’s order represents a precedent they cannot live with.

Lasher

(27,664 posts)
9. I'm pretty sure they have already done that.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:22 PM
Sep 2022

It's a regular appeal, which takes longer. This part was an emergency intervention.

FBaggins

(26,783 posts)
31. Not yet
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:32 PM
Sep 2022

And they've already gotten most of what they needed - while discovering that the panel is 2-1 Trump judges.

There may not be a good enough reason to appeal the special master ruling itself now that they have access to what they need most.

Lasher

(27,664 posts)
40. I am concerned about the precedent.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 11:36 PM
Sep 2022

If Trump gets a special master, then why couldn't everybody else in a similar position get one?

Justice matters.

(6,955 posts)
25. They don't care. They believe their Hair Furor is the 2nd coming of Jeezuss to bring 'em Armageddon!
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:07 PM
Sep 2022

So to prove them wrong and snap 'em out of their Fascist Qult (even that is doubtful), once their treasonous orange ass will be found guilty of Espionage against the United States, instead of parading him in front of a firing squad, he should get crucified.

It's the only way to prove he's not the Christaliban they believe he is... as he won't resuscitate three days after for these Fascist nutjobs.

BigOleDummy

(2,272 posts)
41. Hey! As a Bona Fide .......
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:09 AM
Sep 2022

.... Dummy I kind of resent being lumped in with losers like her! Not all who are Dummies are lost.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
19. For the most part the judiciary has held the line. Cannon is not worthy of a lifetime appointment to
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 01:02 PM
Sep 2022

the bench. Unlike Dearie who has actually handled national security cases, Cannon is a light weight making decisions from the bench more from a political point of view than a federal judge upholding the law. Her decisions were amateurish, lack any basis in law or fact, and disregarded her oath to her position. When you think of the federal judiciary people with courage come to mind, not some light weight attorney whose resume falls far short of that which is required to a lifetime appointment to the bench. Cannon should be held accountable because any way you look at it she was exposed as an incompetent judge who doesn’t have the intelligence or experience to be handling cases involving national security.

onenote

(42,829 posts)
36. No. Change of venue has to be requested at the outset of a case or its waived.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:54 PM
Sep 2022

DOJ has filed one excellent brief after another. If objecting to venue had been a real option, they would have raised it. But contrary to what some people have assumed, there was nothing improper about the case being filed in the So. Distr. of Florida.

Jay25

(417 posts)
28. Quick Questions
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:24 PM
Sep 2022

Has the special master and/or trumps lawyers, seen the documents already?

Also, have they had access to any information thus far, regarding the whistleblower?

Thanks in advance, just in case I don't get back soon.

onenote

(42,829 posts)
39. They will get copies of the non-classified docs on Monday per Judge Dearie's order.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 10:04 PM
Sep 2022

Last edited Fri Sep 23, 2022, 08:34 AM - Edit history (1)

Moosepoop

(1,924 posts)
42. No, the classified items have not been viewed by anyone except the DOJ.
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 01:50 AM
Sep 2022

Nor will they be, now. The classified items are no longer within the special master's purview. The stuff that will be furnished to the SM and the lawyers is all the rest -- the non-classified items.

As to the "whistleblower," I'm assuming you mean the person(s) who directed the FBI to look in certain places for the missing documents at Mar-A-Lago. I'm not aware of any formal requests by Trump's attorneys for the identity of the person(s) involved, let alone any success in gaining access to the info.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,546 posts)
29. A real judge wouldn't show up on a national stage wearing a clown costume and kissing ass.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:24 PM
Sep 2022

The loose QCannon should resign before she further embarasses herself and the country. This is not over yet. It will get worse for her.

johnnyfins

(864 posts)
34. No it won't
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:42 PM
Sep 2022

She still has a lifetime appointment. She will keep quiet, fly under the radar and keep her job. Bet on it.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,546 posts)
35. She has only had 1 sample of a smack-down by an appeals court.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 09:46 PM
Sep 2022

The full appeal is coming.

Ask any judge who has a few years of experience and they will tell you they do not like being reversed on appeal. Cannon has yet to demonstrate competence on the bench or even knowledge of the process. She will be reversed over and over until she either learns or commits an impeachable offense.

KPN

(15,677 posts)
45. Or resigns. At some point, the public humiliation will likely get to her and she will take a job
Fri Sep 23, 2022, 07:50 AM
Sep 2022

as counsel for some MAGA loving political action org.

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