Good News? Most Americans see Trump's MAGA as threat to democracy: Reuters/Ipsos poll

[Laura PourMeADrink]

Amazing it's not more, but will take it

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/most-americans-see-trumps-maga-as-threat-to-democracy-reuters-ipsos-poll/ar-AA11A5u9

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Days after Democratic President Joe Biden gave a fiery speech attacking former President Donald Trump and his Republican allies as an extremist threat, a Reuters/Ipsos poll completed on Wednesday found a majority of Americans believe Trump's movement is undermining democracy.

Fifty-eight percent of respondents in the two-day poll - including one in four Republicans - said Trump's "Make America Great Again" movement is threatening America's democratic foundations

More at link....

[JohnSJ]

1. Only 58%. That is pathetic. It should be at minimum 75%.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

6. On the flip side, tells me that we aren't reaching people

Obviously they aren't seeing Scumbag? As we do? Above my pay grade. But the fact that it's only 58% means something. And this has been getting progressively worse. Which makes it even harder.

[StrkSrviver]

19. It falls right in line

With the percentage of people that identify as magats. The 1 in 4 Republicans are the reasonable and responsible ones that might change their votes and help us keep the majority in the House 🤞

[ProfessorGAC]

20. Not Really

This doesn't mean the other 42% are good with MAGA.
It just means 7 in 12 people directly connect the movement to a negative impact on democratic institutions.
It only takes another 40% of that remainder to be anti-MAGA for other reasons & you've got your 75%.
This isn't bad news.

[Demsrule86]

23. I am happy about it...it means the Biden got his message out. The glass is half full man.

[uponit7771]

30. That's nearly all of dems and 75% of independents, even 25% of Reps thing MAGA is dangerous

[Mme. Defarge]

2. Did Joe's speech

have an impact? Since it wasn’t broadcast on any network channels, probably not too much. But still, I’d like to think…

[Laura PourMeADrink]

4. Doubt it

[Demsrule86]

24. It had an impact. Everyone in my area has heard what was said. It was on Youtube and how many

cord-cutters are out there? More Trump signs went down afterward too.

[uponit7771]

31. Only 50% of respondents saw the speech which is still not bad, either way if ZERO people saw it ...

... Biden did good by setting a marker down on MAGA stupid being "them" and supporters of democracy being "us"

[msongs]

3. good news if dems tie every repub candidate to maga/trump/roe over turn nt

[electric_blue68]

5. I wonder about the polling... a few yrs back I read a lot polsters were not calling people on...

their cellphones; the article saying they weren't reaching more younger people.

So maybe it's not as accurate as it could be?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. Not sure I'd worry about younger people?

[electric_blue68]

11. I meant that the pollsters % numbers might have been higher than the 58% they got if ..

perhaps if they had polled more younger people .

Maybe 👍

[Laura PourMeADrink]

12. Agree!!!

[electric_blue68]

14. 👍

[progressoid]

16. That was a few years ago.

Pew Research Center will increase the percentage of respondents interviewed on cellphones from 65% to 75% in most of its 2016 telephone surveys. We’re making this change to ensure our survey samples properly represent the now roughly half (47%) of U.S. adults whose only phone is a cellphone.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/01/05/pew-research-center-will-call-75-cellphones-for-surveys-in-2016/

Bigger issue is that people don't want to answer a call from an unknown caller.

Pollsters are increasingly embracing new methods in the run-up to the 2022 midterms after notable misses in recent races. Front of mind is the looming 2024 election cycle, when former President Donald Trump — whose support among the electorate has bedeviled pollsters trying to measure it for the past seven years, including missing low on Trump’s vote before his 2016 win and underestimating the closeness of his 2020 loss — could be on the ballot for the third consecutive presidential election.

Both the internal polling that drives campaigns’ decisions and the media surveys that help shape coverage of the races are already changing: Pollsters are trying new ways to collect data, like contacting potential respondents by text message instead of phone calls, and seeking new ways of adjusting the data after to make it more accurately reflect the whole electorate.

At the American Association for Public Opinion Research’s annual conference here last week, the papers presented and the sideline conversations presaged the biggest change in election polling since Americans began cutting the cord and ditching landlines for cell phones.

As the polling industry seeks to pick up the pieces after “a disaster for our field,” as longtime Pew Research Center pollster Scott Keeter referred to the 2020 election, some of these new methods are seeping into the mainstream. Major media polls are now reaching some respondents via text message or mail solicitations, replacing or supplementing the phone calls that have dominated polling for decades — but are less likely than ever to be answered by potential respondents.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/15/polling-changes-2024-elections-00032540

[Demsrule86]

26. And maybe it is. I always wonder why every poll that is bad for us is met with a

'we are doomed kind of attitude' but those that are good for us are met with skepticism. This poll mirrors what I have seen in Ohio. And it looks pretty solid. small sample. It might even be better for us than we think. The real polls are the elections...we have over-performed in every special and let's not forget Kansas.

[Johnny2X2X]

7. This is huge news.

58% is a massive number. 1 in 4 Republicans is great too.

[Qutzupalotl]

8. 25% of Republicans can see a threat to democracy.

If half of those stay home and a few vote for us, we win.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. We do! If Biden hangs in there!!!

[Demsrule86]

27. I heard Obama will campaign for us too...I bet he goes to Ohio. People here like Obama as he

saved most of out jobs by not allowing the autos to go under.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. That would be great! I used to think TFG had zero

chance but given the depths of his cheating you never know. If he doesn't run, hopefully he'll destroy their nominee. Wish D's could audit every machine now.

[slightlv]

9. I'm glad they're beginning to see them as a threat

to democracy. But you know how I *wish* they'd seen them?

As a total and absolute existential threat!

[Evolve Dammit]

33. I don't think 1/2 of America has a fucking clue about the seriousness of the moment. May be more

fat and happy in their silos of info.

[summer_in_TX]

15. Considering that NONE of the major networks,

CBS, ABC, NBC, and even PBS, showed Biden's speech live, that's a very respectable percentage.

Those networks apparently decided even September 1 before Labor Day was too close to the election to air. But those broadcasters have an obligation to air content in the "public interest, convenience, and necessity." (Communications Act, 1934).

They still can educate their audience about the threat to democracy on their morning and evening news shows, in prime time specials, interviewing experts, authors, people who have lived in autocracies, and Republicans who have recognized the threat and are actively working to oppose the threat to democracy (preferably Republicans who are not regularly on MSNBC or CNN, say David Frum and Joe Walsh, so they are less subject to suspicion about possible monetary motives). Show documentaries, put them on other channels owned by the parent company, say The History Channel, as well as any streaming service.

They're likely to need some public pressure to do so.

[Johnny2X2X]

25. The Right Wing outrage to Biden's speech backfired

Most of the country has seen a good deal of that speech, even on FOX News. They played clips on FOX that they thought would outrage people, but really just got sane people to think that, "Yeah, MAGAs are a threat to the continued existence our our Democracy."

[Murphyb849]

17. Give it time.

Republican hubris is off the charts. People will see.

[KS Toronado]

18. "one in four Republicans"

If that 1 in 4 would vote Democrat, there's a Blue Tidal Wave coming that would make
the tea party's splash look like it was in a fishbowl.

[Peacetrain]

21. Gives me hope!!

[Kid Berwyn]

22. Democracy matters.

DNC would be smart to notice.

[uponit7771]

29. including 1/4 of republicans ?!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. *think* 1 out of 4 if responders? Not of all Repukes?

[rpannier]

34. Then stop voting for the Republikkans and send a clear message