Andrew Weissman: Judge's ruling would lead to a special master in EVERY criminal case.

[highplainsdem]

This has to be appealed and overturned.

Link to tweet

[Irish_Dem]

1. So if I rob a bank, I get a SM to determine what is bank money and what is my bingo money?

And I can dump out my purse to find coins for the SM to examine in detail?

[gab13by13]

5. Yes, that is a rational explanation.

If Trump has privilege that means he can keep the classified documents, doesn't it? How else can Trump have privilege over government property?

[Irish_Dem]

7. IDK the legal answer, but the political one is that the GOP is going to cover for Trump's crimes.

[Stargleamer]

8. More comments on this scenario:

Link to tweet

[Irish_Dem]

14. Same thing I typed out....

[SoCalDavidS]

17. No, Sorry, Only Works For Those Who Are ABOVE THE LAW nt

[Irish_Dem]

21. Damn, that means the FBI will keep my bingo money.

One month I won over $300 at the senior center playing bingo.
I was winning the regular games and the special pots.

The FBI is going to have to lock me in a SuperMax to get my bingo money.
I was saving that for a rainy day.

[SoCalDavidS]

22. They'll Send The IRS After You Too nt

[PCIntern]

19. I was just thinking exactly that.

Great minds think alike!!

[gab13by13]

2. Magats do not care.

Damn I hope that Nicolle is on today, but being a holiday, I doubt it. I could be golfing but it rained today.

[aeromanKC]

3. There will be a lot of appeals and overturned cases with Trump's ignorant, unexperienced Judges

The Bar even tried to warn us that these judges had F ratings.

[MyOwnPeace]

4. BINGO! And echoes every legal analysis I'd heard about the 'appeal......'

I would also expect that the DOJ had an immediate appeal already written and awaiting just such an absurd ruling by a tRump appointee.

[gab13by13]

16. I do not believe that DOJ would have an appeal ready.

The judge's ruling is so off the wall, she ignored precedence, her ruling is unprecedented.

[MyOwnPeace]

20. But consider the lead-up........

1. A 'Federalist'
2. A tRump appointee
3. At the preliminary hearing she admitted she was inclined to agree with tRump - before she even heard ANYTHING from the DOJ!

Is it wrong for us to expect that our own DOJ would not have looked at those 'clues' and thought: "Ya' know, maybe we should have a 'Plan B' ready for this......."

[Evolve Dammit]

35. Looey Gohmert was a Judge in TX. Shit happens at every level. To wit, an orange sociopath as CIC.

[Nevilledog]

53. She said that before the DOJ was even served

[niyad]

24. The t----** appointed idiot clearly stated her intent. You cannot seriously

believe that the DoJ is not prepared for every forseeable contingency.

[Liberal In Texas]

6. That's why I think the DOJ has to appeal. It will delay the investigation

of the traitor but I don't think it can be helped.

[triron]

10. Maybe.

Might the DOJ ask for an immediate injunction?

[Irish_Dem]

15. I'd like to think in matters related to national security we can speed up the process a bit.

I mean for God's sake this is crazy.

[orleans]

37. exactly! nt

[claudette]

9. I'm thinking the DOJ

had a contingency plan in place in the event that the judge made this ridiculous ruling.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

12. Sshhh...

That interferes with the “DoJ is incompetent” narrative.

[crickets]

13. Belated welcome to DU, claudette!

So far, they have. I'm in "waiting for the other shoe to drop" mode.

[claudette]

51. Thanks so much!!

really a great place!!

[calimary]

32. Well, I'd rather they have a contingency plan than a complacency plan.

Unfortunately, I have yet to see anything that moves ME forward.

What I fear is that Merrick Garland thinks law-abiding/straight-arrow. donald thinks whatever works/doesn't matter.

The DOJ and anybody else on the opposite end of a fight with trump are STILL thinking conventionally. How it would be with any other garden-variety crook. Nobody else had tried the shit that donald has - and he's gotten away with it, because every time, he's expected to behave or respond a certain (conventional) way, and he BUCKS that! Does his own thing. No textbooks or instruction manuals necessary. What will slow things down? What will muck up the works? What will frustrate or eventually bankrupt an opponent so they throw up their hands and give up, or settle for FAR less just to get done with it and stop hemmorhaging money on legal bills.

Doesn't ANYBODY on our side of the law enforcement quotient think like donald thinks? Or even try to imagine and anticipate?

Good Grief, I remember when my dad first took me out to learn to drive. He kept saying "you have to anticipate. You've gotta anticipate." He said it often enough that I started wondering if this wasn't merely a good piece of advice to a novice driver, but some sort of key strategy, key mindset, key something-or-other. I'm starting to wonder if that's what the donald does.

[Evolve Dammit]

36. I agree that "he" has no counter-part defending our country that is able to meet this time.

[orleans]

40. my mom taught me to drive; her line was "anticipate the light" nt

[MyOwnPeace]

45. With 'ya, partner!

I'm bouncing back and forth through the day - but I stated the same (#20) - hoping we've learned our lessons in dealing with fascists!
(of course, I could also state that I truly believe: "Brilliant minds think alike!" )

[W_HAMILTON]

11. Just arrest his ass and charge him already.

There is more than sufficient evidence that a crime has been committed -- many crimes, in fact.

If he wants to delay and drag out this entire process, let his fucking traitorous ass do it while under indictment.

[calimary]

44. My fondest wish - probably EVER.

[claudette]

52. Charging immediately him with theft of documents

and obstructing their return seems like charges that would stick and aren’t related to or dependent on what the special master finds.

[dalton99a]

18. The cult leader must be protected at all costs.

[erronis]

27. Best protection is in a maximum security lockup. 24-hour surveillance like his friend Epstein.

Make sure all those video cams are functional and haven't been hacked by trump's russian bff.

[jimfields33]

23. Definitely needs one for no knock warrants

I’m for that. Maybe stop murder of sleeping individuals.

[Turbineguy]

25. A Trump appointee has one job.

To do their part to destroy the country. Many hands make light work.

[Jarqui]

26. I'm not seeing much legal support for the judge's decision on Twitter

by legal folks who seem to be in-the-know.

There seem to be a lot of valid points being made (too many to list here) on problems with her decision.

Jonathan Turley, basically a legal shill for the GOP, is the only one who sided with her that I've seen so far.
As usual, his opinion was a waste of time.

[highplainsdem]

28. I didn't see any, other than from Trump supporters.

[calimary]

33. I wonder if he's gonna wind up as another talking head on the "new" CNN...

[UCmeNdc]

29. Trump found a corrupt judge.

[ancianita]

30. Right. It could. But it won't hold. THIS CASE WILL DELAY justice FOR MONTHS.

THIS case must be adjudicated by next year.

A writ of mandemus could also be a remedy, especially if this case moves to the DC Circuit court, which has proper jurisdiction over this case because the crime against the Presidential Records happened in DC.

It's bad enough that public confidence in the DOJ seems low, but now public confidence in the courts will lower, as well.

[Evolve Dammit]

38. And if we lose the House, the MAGATs will be unleashed and 1/6 is in the forgotten past.

45 is calling Biden "satan." This is ramping at alarming speed due to 20 months of DOJ inaction.

[ancianita]

41. If. But chances are we'll hold. Women's voter registrations are through the roof.

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What bothers me is that the DOJ could have subpoenaed Trump to appear before a grand jury by now.

The DOJ STILL COULD ARREST TRUMP. Technically, if they observe the 60 day policy, they've got four days. BUT that's just a policy, not law. So even then the AG himself can override DOJ policy during the 60-day period and do what it takes to bring Trump in and charge him on what they've got right now.

[Evolve Dammit]

42. Politely, I will just say that anyone stealing classified intel should be arrested and interrogated

immediately as personnel and methods, etc. could have been given, sold or otherwise divulged. This is not looking good for the home team (us).

[ancianita]

43. I'm totally with you. The DOJ has to move.

This isn't even about teams. This is about national f'n security, my friend.

We take care of that first, then we can worry about how our team looks. We've impeached twice. Mueller has provided evidence for obstruction. We've had eight Jan 6 hearings that millions watched live and since. We've turned over evidence to the DOJ. IMHO, we're doing badass.

[Evolve Dammit]

46. Agreed. Sorry if my last post seemed terse. I am sad to recognize that we may be facing a domestic

terrorist enemy with lots of internal support. The ramifications of which I have not known in my lifetime. The guardrails are broken by a con man mob boss. And he did it easily, and that's the sad and angering reality.

[ancianita]

47. I feel you. But we've lived with the guardrails down for four years.

This is the beginning of the end of this criminal psychopath national security threat.

All the Dems have to do is their job, and they've been doing it in spades.

There has been a lot learned that our side can do in Congress to prevent this from never ever happening again. The more they holler from now on, the more we know our rule of law is slamming them.

There are so many things our past Dem presidents have done wrong (I can list them, if you want), but with this administration, we will put ourselves in the history books.

That's something to feel good about, friend.

[Evolve Dammit]

48. Agree, IF we maintain the House. Thanks for the optimism. Hope it "takes."

[ancianita]

49. Just look at the voter registration news and new polls.

I know polls are just snapshots, but the trending is there.

Remember our blue wave in 2018? In 2020?

[Evolve Dammit]

50. Thank you for 100cc of reality and optimism!

[NCjack]

31. BEFORE the trial, every criminal would be entitled to participate in dividing the loot.

[FossFafy]

34. People who didn't vote in 2016

are partly to blame for allowing this moron to become President and appoint this kind of judges.

[MyOwnPeace]

54. You ARE correct......

Yet another reason for why we are where we are now.

People need to start taking this stuff SERIOUSLY!!!!! It is NOT a 'docu-drama' - it is our government- our lives!

TRULY - EVERY VOTE COUNTS - and we need EVERY ONE OF THEM to keep our country.

GAWD, I HATE to have to work SO HARD because of these IDIOTS - being a great country can/should be easy!

[Warpy]

39. It is painfully obvious that Judge Loose Cannon

has spent her career as a politician within the Federalist Society than as any sort of officer of the court.

She is in WAY over her head. Reversal of at least part of her garbage will most likely happen on appeal.

And TFG had better hope there aren't any sensitive presidential records in there. They belong to the Archives, also.