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gab13by13

(21,526 posts)
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:12 PM Sep 2022

This Is What Democrats Are Up Against

On Mehdi Hasan tonight, he debated whether to indict Trump before the election. The consensus was that DOJ would not indict 65 days prior to the election because the MSM would be all over DOJ for being partisan to Democrats. So, DOJ can't indict Trump 65 days prior to the election but James Comey can announce the bogus investigation into Hillary's emails 11 days before the election but the MSM did not object to what Comey did, it pushed lock her up.

See the difference?

The MSM is right wing, all of it, it pushes Magat talking points. So much coverage of Trump's rally with a tiny mention about President Biden's speech to the nation.

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This Is What Democrats Are Up Against (Original Post) gab13by13 Sep 2022 OP
JMHO, an indictment pre midterms may empower gqp to get out and vote. Don't want that! PortTack Sep 2022 #1
So when Democrats impeached Trump gab13by13 Sep 2022 #10
No, not sure at all. Your points are a good reminder, at least for me not to get caught up in RW PortTack Sep 2022 #37
So how much are they paying you to tell us this??? a kennedy Sep 2022 #2
Make that - the bogus investigation into Hillary's emails" DURHAM D Sep 2022 #3
Thank you, I made the correction. gab13by13 Sep 2022 #11
Oh the media most definitely determined that comey was very very naughty unblock Sep 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Bev54 Sep 2022 #25
So does the media just make this shit up? He is not running for election. Bev54 Sep 2022 #5
Arrest him as soon as the polls close. n/t Mr.Bill Sep 2022 #9
I can go for that, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #12
Once indicted, Trump is unlikely to be called before a Grand Jury Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #16
Good to hear that because time matters, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #22
I thought targets are not brought before the grand jury - it makes no difference. Bev54 Sep 2022 #26
See Fools News for phony outrage machine prime examples by the minute? Brainfodder Sep 2022 #6
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Sep 2022 #38
See Fools News for phony outrage machine prime examples by the minute? Brainfodder Sep 2022 #7
I didn't watch the show. Mr.Bill Sep 2022 #8
They mentioned that Trump endorsed many candidates gab13by13 Sep 2022 #14
If you think Hasan is Right Wing, you need to take a break from TV. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #13
I have no idea where you got that notion? gab13by13 Sep 2022 #17
Yes, MSM is the problem, and they need to be thwarted or reined-in to save our Democracy. c-rational Sep 2022 #15
Absolutely absolutely! PortTack Sep 2022 #39
I'm not sure this is bad for us. I don't mean about Comey BootinUp Sep 2022 #18
We need left wing media. wnylib Sep 2022 #19
it's 65 days away. over two motnhs! FFS ARREST HIM!!!!!!!!!!!! Takket Sep 2022 #20
I'm going to mark you down gab13by13 Sep 2022 #21
Yeah go ahead and do that lol Takket Sep 2022 #31
And the second the midterms are over Bettie Sep 2022 #24
I am so fucking sick and tired of the excuses not to indict PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2022 #23
This is LAW Timewas Sep 2022 #27
I don't think Merrick Garland gives one fuck about Mehdi Hasan's opinion Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #28
Mehdi Hasan never gave his opinion, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #29
So what? Do we go by the rule of law or not? lees1975 Sep 2022 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Ponietz Sep 2022 #32
Two wrongs don't make a right Shermanator Sep 2022 #33
Indict him this week if he refuses to come in to inform investigators about what Justice matters. Sep 2022 #34
This is about the rule of law and possible espionage. hadEnuf Sep 2022 #35
I Am Going To Stand By My Prediction That He Is NEVER Indicted SoCalDavidS Sep 2022 #36
I hate that I agree with you, but I do. And even if he does get indicted, he still won't go to jail. Earth-shine Sep 2022 #41
Post removed Post removed Sep 2022 #40
women and POC are held to a different standard Skittles Sep 2022 #42

PortTack

(32,836 posts)
1. JMHO, an indictment pre midterms may empower gqp to get out and vote. Don't want that!
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:18 PM
Sep 2022

Having said that, I don’t think that’s what’s front and center on Merrick Garland’s mind. A slam dunk no wiggle room indictment with a 100% chance of conviction is first.

gab13by13

(21,526 posts)
10. So when Democrats impeached Trump
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:36 PM
Sep 2022

you are correct, it drove out Trump's base for the 2020 election. The thing is, the impeachment of Trump drove out more Democrats than Republicans.

Are you sure that a pre-election indictment of Trump would bring out more Magats than Democrats? It didn't work that way for Trump's impeachment.

PortTack

(32,836 posts)
37. No, not sure at all. Your points are a good reminder, at least for me not to get caught up in RW
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 04:22 AM
Sep 2022

Talking points!

a kennedy

(29,810 posts)
2. So how much are they paying you to tell us this???
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:18 PM
Sep 2022
Just thought I’d yell something so stupid lotsa folk will believe them. 😂

unblock

(52,534 posts)
4. Oh the media most definitely determined that comey was very very naughty
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:20 PM
Sep 2022

Which is why they're not going to do to republicans what they did to democrats.

See how that works?

Doj won't break the rules anymore either.


The media decided they were way too fawning to Donnie, but hitch is why they are being responsibly critical of Biden now.

See how that works?

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Bev54

(10,100 posts)
5. So does the media just make this shit up? He is not running for election.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:22 PM
Sep 2022

I would like to see him indicted on the night of the election, give us two things to celebrate.

gab13by13

(21,526 posts)
12. I can go for that,
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:41 PM
Sep 2022

Here is the thing about waiting to indict him, he will immediately announce he is running for president and then he will appeal, delay, appearing before a grand jury.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,725 posts)
16. Once indicted, Trump is unlikely to be called before a Grand Jury
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:44 PM
Sep 2022

The Grand Jury will have already spoken via the indictment.

Trump would proceed directly to trial, with his flailing attempts to delay the inevitable.

Announcing his candidacy would have no effect on DOJ’s actions at this point in time.

Brainfodder

(6,424 posts)
6. See Fools News for phony outrage machine prime examples by the minute?
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:29 PM
Sep 2022

It is a game to them and they don't care how they win?

Consequences aren't even considered much?

Media just wants people glued to it for ratings and advertising revenue based on said ratings.

If all is right in our world, they are much much poorer?

Sucks, news outfits trying to make/augment, instead of just reporting...

Flexible facts!





Brainfodder

(6,424 posts)
7. See Fools News for phony outrage machine prime examples by the minute?
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:29 PM
Sep 2022

It is a game to them and they don't care how they win?

Consequences aren't even considered much?

Media just wants people glued to it for ratings and advertising revenue based on said ratings.

If all is right in our world, they are much much poorer?

Sucks, news outfits trying to make/augment, instead of just reporting...

Flexible facts!





Mr.Bill

(24,384 posts)
8. I didn't watch the show.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:33 PM
Sep 2022

Did anyone mention the fact that Trump is not currently running for any office and is a private citizen?

gab13by13

(21,526 posts)
14. They mentioned that Trump endorsed many candidates
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:42 PM
Sep 2022

who are running and used that excuse for not being able to indict him so close to the election.

gab13by13

(21,526 posts)
17. I have no idea where you got that notion?
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:44 PM
Sep 2022

I must not have made my post clear, please explain.

I only watch Nicolle, Chris Hayes, and Mehdi on cable news. I would like Mehdi to get a prime time slot. he should have gotten Alex Wagner's spot.

BootinUp

(47,236 posts)
18. I'm not sure this is bad for us. I don't mean about Comey
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:55 PM
Sep 2022

Just that its going to be a better midterm for us if they wait till after. imho.

Takket

(21,733 posts)
20. it's 65 days away. over two motnhs! FFS ARREST HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:05 PM
Sep 2022

This is why this pisses me off so much...............

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It's too close to the election to indict!

gab13by13

(21,526 posts)
29. Mehdi Hasan never gave his opinion,
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:56 PM
Sep 2022

he had 3 guests on, 2 of them said to wait after the election, the writer for the Atlantic, I think his name is Adam Greene, understood, but would indict.

Just stop and think if cable news anchors would have a debate like we are having here for this thread. It is what they should be debating. Do not underestimate the power of controlling the narrative. Instead of talking about indicting Trump they are talking about the search warrant, about Trump's rally.

lees1975

(3,955 posts)
30. So what? Do we go by the rule of law or not?
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 11:01 PM
Sep 2022

If this were just about anyone else, they'd have been charged and jailed without bond and that's what should happen to him. He shouldn't even be eligible to announce he's running for President and if the GOP had an ounce of integrity, they'd make it impossible for him to seek their nomination.

Let's get on with this.

As far as his rallies go, they're not even filling the small venues where they're held. People don't want to spend two hours waiting in line and then two hours listening to a demented, rambling, repetitive speech that seeks applause after every line. No charge now, they're free.

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Shermanator

(45 posts)
33. Two wrongs don't make a right
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 11:27 PM
Sep 2022

Comey was absolutely wrong to announce something like that 11 days before an election.

Justice matters.

(6,962 posts)
34. Indict him this week if he refuses to come in to inform investigators about what
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 11:36 PM
Sep 2022

he did with the documents, and especially those that are missing.

This is about National Security GDI, military informations and materials, not about a midterm election!

Besides, he would lie to the FBI (easy to predict that) so indict him for it too.

And pretty sure that the next day, he would publicly claim that the FBI planted them in his office, and that he never stole them, which would contradict many of his previous statements.

Let him squirm and lie every day until the election. Expose how dangerous he is to the NS, to the troopers abroad, to the military. A lot of anti-trump conservatives may decide to vote for Dems, or just stay home disgusted, and keep informing young women about Roe-vember.

Force republiQons to defend their Dear Leader... I don't think independents will vote for treason...

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
36. I Am Going To Stand By My Prediction That He Is NEVER Indicted
Mon Sep 5, 2022, 12:32 AM
Sep 2022

If I’m wrong, then I’ll be thrilled. But there is no way I’m going against history. And History shows time and time again, that when you are special, you get away with breaking laws every time. TFG is Above The Law, until proven otherwise.

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