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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,527 posts)
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 08:15 PM Sep 2022

Republicans Seek Path for Constitutional Convention

WASHINGTON — Representative Jodey Arrington, a conservative Texas Republican, believes it is well past time for something the nation has not experienced for more than two centuries: a debate over rewriting the Constitution.

“I think the states are due a convention,” said Mr. Arrington, who in July introduced legislation to direct the archivist of the United States to tally applications for a convention from state legislatures and compel Congress to schedule a gathering when enough states have petitioned for one. “It is time to rally the states and rein in Washington responsibly.”

To Russ Feingold, the former Democratic senator from Wisconsin and president of the American Constitution Society, a liberal judicial group, that is a terrible idea. Mr. Feingold sees the prospect of a constitutional convention as an exceptionally dangerous threat from the right and suggests it is closer to reality than most people realize as Republicans push to retake control of Congress in November’s midterm elections.

“We are very concerned that the Congress, if it becomes Republican, will call a convention,” said Mr. Feingold, the co-author of a new book warning of the risks of a convention called “The Constitution in Jeopardy.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republicans-seek-path-for-constitutional-convention/ar-AA11sFWT

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Republicans Seek Path for Constitutional Convention (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2022 OP
Mathematically impossible, unless states that previously rejected a CC reverse their position. Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #1
Exactly..they can scheme, twist, rant..it ain't happening PortTack Sep 2022 #6
Another reason to vote. I hope it's not too late to go on the offensive and call them out housecat Sep 2022 #20
Impossible! If you think the last one was contentious... keithbvadu2 Sep 2022 #2
. Takket Sep 2022 #7
They're going to do everything they can to chuck our Constitution. Baitball Blogger Sep 2022 #3
You ain't whistling Dixie peppertree Sep 2022 #11
Now that we know how low they will go, we must go on the offensive housecat Sep 2022 #21
Republicans want to strip the little power that the people have left. Chainfire Sep 2022 #4
Absolutely Rebl2 Sep 2022 #19
THEY. CAN. NOT. WIN. UNLESS. THEY. CHEAT. A HERETIC I AM Sep 2022 #5
"We are very concerned that the Congress, if it becomes Republican, will call a convention," Takket Sep 2022 #8
Everything, I mean everything they've been doing for the last 40 years Cheezoholic Sep 2022 #12
The last two lines say it all. housecat Sep 2022 #22
Of course they are! They refuse to honor their oath to the Constitution, so they want to change it Rhiannon12866 Sep 2022 #9
Darkest of money, running "think tanks" is really going down this path. rubbersole Sep 2022 #10
Maybe we could finally outlaw alcohol! Get rid of the sin of drunkeness. Kablooie Sep 2022 #13
Replace the constitution Traildogbob Sep 2022 #14
Hopefully the dems take more governorships as well as both houses. Bev54 Sep 2022 #15
What States benefit most from the existence of the federal government? BOSSHOG Sep 2022 #16
But but but EnergizedLib Sep 2022 #17
Not gonna happen. The bar is too high. That's how they blocked the ERA for so long. Martin68 Sep 2022 #18
There is no legal method for calling a "Constitutional Convention". NYC Liberal Sep 2022 #23

keithbvadu2

(37,073 posts)
2. Impossible! If you think the last one was contentious...
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 08:35 PM
Sep 2022

Impossible! If you think the last one was contentious...

That last one was almost entirely reasonable men with the idea of compromise.

This one would be loaded with Taliban Christians whose idea of compromise is total conquest.

That is just one example of problems to be expected.

--------------------------------------------

Here is the Taiwan Parliament 'compromising'.

Baitball Blogger

(46,788 posts)
3. They're going to do everything they can to chuck our Constitution.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 08:37 PM
Sep 2022

That's the path of crooked fraudsters. Saw it in the nineties when a local ex-judge tried to convince homeowners to abandon their PUD if they wanted control over development. Saw it in my own HOA when people who were determined to take over our common grounds did everything they could to get us to chuck our HOA documents. without telling everyone the property rights they were given in those douments.

Damn it. This is a game as old as time. This is not a new strategy. Our local fraudsters relied on secret meetings. We couldn't fight against them because they were determined and always pulled the rug from under us. And, yes, there was fear. Fear of not knowing how far they would go to get their way.

peppertree

(21,748 posts)
11. You ain't whistling Dixie
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:34 PM
Sep 2022

Bush already shredded the Bill of Rights with his 'Patriot' Act - largely written by a Vietnamese dictatorship nostalgic, and meant to mimic 3rd world-style 'state of siege' declarations (though many of its most abusive provisions, thank God, have never been implemented).

And Bush was a downright moderate compared to today's RW crop. So you can imagine what beasties would make it into such a new charter, if they had the chance.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,382 posts)
5. THEY. CAN. NOT. WIN. UNLESS. THEY. CHEAT.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 08:50 PM
Sep 2022

Simple.

The right wing wet dream is a Constitutional Convention.

That way they get to do away with the first clause of the 1st Amendment and institutionalize Christianity into daily life.

The left is too detached from this issue and will get bowled over by this totalitarian, albeit minority ideology.

It can not bloody well be allowed under the current system.

Do away with the Electoral College and institute the proper voting reforms, give all that a couple election cycles to work things out and then…yeah…maybe.

Until then? No fucking way.

Takket

(21,730 posts)
8. "We are very concerned that the Congress, if it becomes Republican, will call a convention,"
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:20 PM
Sep 2022

don't be........... Congress only calls a convention is 2/3rds of the states ask for it. That's 34

"Republicans control 30 State Houses, while Democrats have control of 18. For the other two states: Republicans have a numerical majority in Alaska, but power is shared via an interparty coalition. Nebraska has a unicameral (single body) legislature; see the State Senate page for details."

They've only passed a resolution in 19 states calling for a convention but you know they are just laying low to avoid panic. if they get control of 34 states they will strike. you can easily see how voter suppression is paying a part in this though.

let's assume nebraska goes along with them, that's 31. maybe alaska too. that's 32. if they can suppress the vote in minnesota and virginia, which are split now, they could make it to 34.

this is why, other than codifying Roe, passing the voting rights act is the single most important piece of legislation to the survival of this nation. but we need 52 senators to get rid of the filibuster to do it. This election is so important.

Cheezoholic

(2,052 posts)
12. Everything, I mean everything they've been doing for the last 40 years
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:39 PM
Sep 2022

is to achieve this goal. They are trying to keep it ofF the radar. That's how they do shit. This next SC session could put them closer than they ever have been to doing it. You are so right. It's freakin' scary.

Rhiannon12866

(207,018 posts)
9. Of course they are! They refuse to honor their oath to the Constitution, so they want to change it
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:27 PM
Sep 2022

To reflect their unconstitutional beliefs! Jesus...

rubbersole

(6,771 posts)
10. Darkest of money, running "think tanks" is really going down this path.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:32 PM
Sep 2022

We have to pay attention to these motherfuckers. They have the Supreme Court.

Kablooie

(18,648 posts)
13. Maybe we could finally outlaw alcohol! Get rid of the sin of drunkeness.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:40 PM
Sep 2022

That pesky amendment allowing freedom of the press and speech has to go too!
Replace it with allowed speech must conform to the Christian bible. Yeah! That's the ticket!

Traildogbob

(8,917 posts)
14. Replace the constitution
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 09:56 PM
Sep 2022

With the BuyBull. Outlaw constitutional scholars as judges that make judgements of legal cases based on what “they” think the founding fathers meant. Put Mega Church pastors in the courts to interpret what THEY believe the “BuyBull” authors intent was.
There you have it. The Great America as dreamed up by the GQP.

Bev54

(10,100 posts)
15. Hopefully the dems take more governorships as well as both houses.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:20 PM
Sep 2022

Are state elections at the same time??? Sorry Canadian here, just wondering if blue wave would help down ballot on states.

BOSSHOG

(37,174 posts)
16. What States benefit most from the existence of the federal government?
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:23 PM
Sep 2022

States rights means two things and two things only.

1. Slavery.

2. The ability to fuck up the results of popular vote outcomes for President. Dems have won seven of the last eight popular votes for President. Why? Because the VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS don’t give a fuck about conservative values. Kansas turning down abortion abolition by a wide fuck you zealots margin. Exhibit alpha.

You expend your energy trying to take power when you don’t know how to lead, govern, or manage money. It’s so much easier to storm the Capitol.

EnergizedLib

(1,912 posts)
17. But but but
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:23 PM
Sep 2022

I thought they revered the Constitution so much? It couldn’t be that they cherry-pick it, could they?

I mean, I too, would love to rewrite the Constitution, but my version of what the Constitution should look like looks far different than theirs.

NYC Liberal

(20,140 posts)
23. There is no legal method for calling a "Constitutional Convention".
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 11:09 PM
Sep 2022

Article V of the Constitution allows 2/3 of state legislatures to force Congress to call a “convention for proposing amendments”.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress


The convention would simply take the place of Congress in proposing amendments. Every proposed amendment would have to be ratified by 3/4 of the states.
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