Remember
" No no remember, remember
The fifth of November."
-- John Lennon, Remember
I was talking to a friend who is impatient for the DOJ to indict Donald Trump. "It is clear that they have enough evidence to prove the crimes listed in the affidavit," said he. "So what is taking so long?"
Some times, I said, the answer is so obvious that we don't recognize it as being on the surface. The DOJ has noted that their investigation is in an early stage. Thus, as they already have enough evidence to convict Trump on those crimes -- beyond any reasonable doubt -- it can only mean that they are investigating other, related crimes. And that has to do with who Trump shared the intelligence documents with.
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I thought Guineas were too noisy until I had 19 peacocks in a tree right beside the house. It was an amazing audio experience when they all fired up at once. Years later, I'm down to 2 ducks and 2 dogs, now.
You can't push a hog. Well, you can, but steering while pushing is just frustrating.
Your threads often seem to turn into tapestries with surprising warps and wefts. 
how do you know they haven't presented stuff already? 
If, as the affidavit and search warrants were indicating, there were 3 categories of criminal code that may have been violated, then within those, there may be a potential for a long list of individual charges.
So that stuff may be rolling into the jur(y)(ies) as we type.
As part of that evidence, they subpoena witnesses and you only hear from the boastful ones who run to the media to let people know but others comply with the subpoena, show up when told (or schedule however they need to) and testify/answer questions. This doesn't happen all on one day or even in one week.
IMHO there is too much fictional TV "crime show" watching going on with DU.
Sarcasm noted but you proved my point about "fictionalized'.
"20 months ago was when"? 
December 2020.
A time when the Senate was still under GOP control until 2 special elections in early January 2021 in GA with 2 new (D) Senators, resulted in a month of wrangling with Turtle in order get control of the Chair positions. And since the Senate does confirmations, they had to wait until the ridiculous "agreement" was put into place regarding who was "in charge".
Garland wasn't confirmed until March 10, 2021.
There are 94 U.S. Attorneys who are under DOJ - most of whom were 45-apppointees "20 months ago", and every single one had to be given their walking papers and new ones appointed AND CONFIRMED, and that process is still going on.
The U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, who would be the primary one handling the J6 cases, was finally confirmed at the end of October 2021 - 10 months ago. There are still a pile who haven't been confirmed and/or are awaiting a nomination.
The J6 Committee didn't even exist until June 30, 2021. They held their first, largely-forgotten hearing a month later on July 27, 2021, and their 2nd hearing (first in prime time) came almost a year later on June 9, 2022, just 2 months ago.
So instead of the exaggeration, there is a need to really go back and do some research regarding what went on from January 20, 2021 12:01 pm when Joe Biden took over the office of the President and had the power to appoint, and where we are now. There was quite a lot that happened, not the least of which was a 2nd impeachment a week after the January 6th 2021 insurrection (before the inauguration), with a trial that happened in February 2021.
which has over 100,000 employees, you have no idea what they have or have not been doing. It's idiotic to get out in the press for the benefit of DU and lay out a criminal case to be discussed by the teevee pundits so that the other side knows how to defend themselves.
This current issue is dealing with a civilian (regulatory) agency - NARA - who has attempted for the past almost 2 years, to get their documents back. Every agency and Department (including the WH) has a "Records Control Schedule" of what is and is not a "record", and how long it is to be held before destruction (or whether it would be held "permanently" ). We had to have annual training on that law. There are NARA warehouses located all around the country where documents that are archived, per their schedules, are stored, and everything is tracked.
The Schedules are listed here - https://www.archives.gov/records-mgmt/rcs/schedules/index.html
Someone had to go through that schedule for the Office of the President to see what is and is not covered and then do an inventory, cross-checking with the curators. And once NARA got some stuff back, they had to sort through it and determine which agency/Department "owned" the document(s) and then look at their records schedules, as well as work with them to come up with next steps for dealing with their document inventories.
NARA cannot independently criminally prosecute a damn thing. They go to DOJ once they have exhausted their own internal escalation procedures, no different from the agency that I retired from, which was also "regulatory" civilian and would also go through steps with our own internal Office of Chief Counsel to attempt to get regulated industry to comply with our requests. When that didn't work, we would finally go to DOJ and the U.S. Marshall's Office, to "take it to the max", with injunctions, searches, seizures, criminal prosecutions (e.g. prosecuting CEOs of companies), and what have you. It's a MAJOR production to do this.
I think a lot of it is understandably a lack of understanding of how the civilian/regulatory agencies differ from and deal with the law-enforcement ones, and how interdependent they are.
DOJ is not going to "reach in and grab workload". An agency that would need them would be providing them with evidence that they will use to build the civil and/or criminal cases. They can only work as fast as the regulatory agency provides them evidence and can then supplement that, from the law-enforcement side (through searches and seizures once a warrant is obtained). Then they put it all together to present to a grand jury if they feel they have enough to go for it.
I know in my agency, having worked in a government lab, both my worksheets and diary were subject to (and were used for) evidentiary purposes for cases that DOJ locally here in Philly, were putting together for firms in this area. In most cases, these companies would settle out of court and we would often negotiate Consent Decrees (which itself is a lot of work to put together), but in other cases, some of my colleagues (thankfully not me) actually testified in the trials of the arrogant asses.
So it's not like what is "on TV". It's messier than that. Hell... DOJ had (and I expect still has) it's own Word Perfect "template" that we had to use to fill in our applicable CFR citations, etc.
So unless you have "been there done that", you can't know what is going on "behind the scenes" in cases like this and it doesn't happen "overnight". 
And thank you for engaging because like most people, I am frustrated as well. This is an ever-increasing nightmare situation that keeps getting worse and worse as they peel back the layers of the malfeasance that many of us feared might happen after that 2016 debacle of an election, but then hoped it wouldn't. Yet it really did happen... and worse than was speculated about.
However I know about some of the types of grunt work that has to happen in support of the routine enforcement actions, so when it comes to something like this, which has escalated to the level of a huge political conspiracy while you continue to have "me-tos" in Congress and embedded in various federal agencies, jumping into the fray to circle the wagons, it's mind-boggling what DOJ has had to deal with, including where to even begin, and what to prioritize.
We have seen that with the J6 Committee's series of hearings as they ended up expanding beyond their initial scope and plans. They anticipated doing 7 hearings and then "The End". Yet they would start with one subject, uncover more stuff while working on that, and then end up shifting to another more pressing subject, would find more, then shift again. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Now they are talking about continuing into September.
We have gone from "election interference" to an attempt at a "violent overthrow of the government as part of seditious conspiracy", and now we are uncovering possible treason, with the theft and mishandling of our nation's top secrets. It is thoroughly unprecedented.
This literally has become the complete exposure of the "Vast Right-conspiracy" writ large.
The bilge rats caught taking over the ship must be, at least, removed from the helm. The uncertainty that mere facts, evidence of treason even, will be enough to convince those undecided and lackadaisically complacent folks, caught flatfooted by events, to go to the polls and make the Herculean effort required to vote in this midterm election, both excites and fills with dread. It would be such a shame if it comes to pass that all is lost because the system, wherein every detail of every process has (or once had at least) a necessary function, prevented the governed from repairing their wounded government through the exercise of a democratic election performed by informed voters, without violence.
Have a donut on me. 
the U.S. doesn't operate, at least legally, as a vigilante-justice system. Certainly a whole segment of our population have experienced and/or have had their ancestors subject to, that type of system, with instant "results" and no need for a "process" as laid out in the obviously unnecessarily cumbersome 6th Amendment. 
It took over a century to make a specific form of "vigilante justice", a federal crime, but hey, it is what it is. Right? 
